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Sundog

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    I already have two local teams called the Sundogs and Roughriders.   The defunct semi-pro hockey team is the Sundogs--(expect a version of a dog mascot if you pick this name.)    If you asked them they would probably sell to UND all the licensing rights lock, stock and barrel.

     The local community college is the Yavpai College Roughriders.  (Interesting to note that the college rarely displays "Roughrider" or a roughrider mascot on any of its team names, but almost always goes by Yavapai College.   The Yavapai are the local Indian tribe.

     

    Roughriders Ranked 5th in Pre-Season National Poll

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  2. The generally recognized format for sports nicknames is the name of the school or organization or location followed by the team nickname. For example, University of North Dakota ... Fighting Sioux, or North Dakota State University ... Bison, or Los Angeles ... Dodgers. If you are saying that you want to use North Dakota as the nickname, then the result is University of North Dakota North Dakota. Or in your other example it would be The State University and School of Mines at Grand Forks North Dakota. If you are claiming that they are just going to be identified as the University of North Dakota or North Dakota, then you are not using a sports nickname.

     

    The Settlement Agreement specifies "choosing a new nickname", not just ending the use of Fighting Sioux. The University of North Dakota has also used North Dakota for a lot more years than it used Fighting Sioux. Teams were identified as North Dakota the entire time they were also called Fighting Sioux. Therefore, North Dakota cannot be called a "new nickname".

    Sorry, I'm not buying the argument. The reason for the agreement in the first place was because "Fighting Sioux" was the nickname, not "North Dakota."  Following the logic of your argument, "Flickertails" could not have been an option for a "new" nickname either because it was previously used by UND.  Because the agreement apparently fails to define "nickname" the door is open to using "North Dakota" as a nickname. If the NCAA wanted the generally recognized (by whom?) format for sports names and wanted to exclude "North Dakota" as a nickname, they should have put it in the agreement. Finally, I apologize for using an obnoxious number of "quotation marks."

  3. Agree.  The Agreement specifically required UND to pick a new nickname.  The Addendum did not change that, and addressed other, ancillary matters.  As others have noted ad nausem, failure to choose a new nickname in compliance with the Agreement could be considered a breach of the Agreement, and subject UND to the various sanctions the NC$$ has at its disposal. 

    Does the agreement provide a definition of "nickname".  Black's Law Dictionary defines it as "a shortend version of one's name."  You could easily make the case that "North Dakota" is a nickname of "The University of North Dakota"  or even better, it is a shorter version of "The State University and School of Mines at Grand Forks" which is how UND is referenced in the century code.

  4. I live 90 miles from my wife's alma mata NAU. I can even see flagstaff from my house. I have to say I have seen the new hatchet logo a couple of times but have never seen suspenders guy until it was postd on this thead. Apparently its not very popular.

  5. My personal observation only, but Sundogs only seems to be a popular straw man on this board.  Can't say I've talked to anyone who's seriously mentioned it as an option.

     

    Doesn't even crack my top 20, but I've heard and read on here suggestions that I think are a lot worse.

    Speaking from experience, Sundogs is a lame name for a sports team.

  6. Of course they know about the lack of logo and nickname, but this is an ESPN production. ESPN doesn't have to follow the NCAA rules. The NCAA can threaten to not "allow" ESPN to broadcast the championships, but I don't see that happening since the NCAA probably begs ESPN to take them, and ESPN probably takes a loss on these games.

    ESPN3 shows a Sioux Jersy on it's homepage.

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