GrahamKracker
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I'll say what has been said before, I am in favor of the Sioux name being changed. The Sioux people that exist today do not deserve respect or honor and that certainly means naming anything in honor of them. I am also in favor of ceasing plans for a new Native American center on campus. We can make the land available to them if they want to pay for it, but that's it. As for the programs, let them keep the programs.
Hail UND Fighting Cavalry, or better yet, open the nickname up for bids and see who bids for it.
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Typical rebuttal from your kind. "If we don't get what we want, then we don't want anything to do with you".
You are a coward, but you know what? Keep you little hate posts coming, and I'll do my best to keep the rejections from the NCAA coming. Peace.
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Lettter from another one of those "hang around the fort indians", this one being a holy man.
What's Kracker's reaction to this one?
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Ake', thanks for thinking of me. For every Veteran that feels this way, I can find 10 that are against the name. So what? There are some things he is unaware of on campus.
1. The only Powwows / wacipi / celebrations that happen on campus are put on by Indians. We don't even have strong numbers of non-Indians attending our powwows, so why does he think UND should take a step farther and "honor" our Sioux Veterans.
2. Do any of you remember the Moving Wall coming to UND a couple years ago? Well the All Nations Veterans Group, which I am a part of, decided NOT to be a part of it, only because of the fact that it was held at the REA. How ironic was that to have our Veterans line up in front of a building built by a man who admired Hitler?
3."It would be nice if the name "Fighting Sioux" was looked upon as a name that honored all the Sioux men and women who protected this country by serving in the military, even though this country did not always treat Indian people with fairness." True true true, but UND is not the place to do this. I don't know how UND could Honor my Sioux veterans with Green wigs. I don't know how UND could honor us when we don't even feel welcome attending home games.
4. He names veterans he knows, we Indian people can all do that. Would it comfort you to know that my father/uncles/grandfathers/great grandfathers/etc all served with honor? If he spent more time on campus, I'm positive he would change it mind towards this issue. I know I didn't think UND was a problem until I actually spent some time on campus, then I found out how those on campus "truly" feel about my people.
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sioux C.I.A.,
I will answer what questions I feel are appropriate, but even if I answer them, you'll still find reasons to dismiss everything I say.
1. How many of your children/siblings/cousins have attended college?
My children are too young /my siblings, lets see, yes they ALL have attended college, 2 are lawyers, one is a doctor, and one is self employed /my cousins, well I have over 25 1st cousins, and some have attended college, but I don't have exact numbers.
2. How many of your children/siblings/cousins have jobs?
0/all/?
3. How many of your children/siblings/cousins are economically stable>not
counting government assistance?
Can you answer this? I was watching the news the other day and almost every other day they talk about your people sneaking over the border to get into this country. Why are you down there helping them? Oh wait, you are too good for your own people, I forgot that.
4. How many of your children/siblings/cousins can enter any room and know
they belong because they were brought up with pride in who and what they
are, not who and what someone else says they are?
My children are proud of who they are. My 2yo can speak 3 languages, and my other children will learn them as well. I am full of pride. Even though you think I hate this world, I don't. I am here to learn what I need to so I can go back and help my people. Unlike some I know, I will never turn my back on where I came from/ my people. You are a third generation Mexican, and I don't know how much of your "culture" you have. But if you were similar to the Beaner friends I have, you would be able to empathize with the struggle of other "brown" people in this country.
5. How many of your children/siblings/counsins know that they are more than
American Indian?
Some of my cousins are only Lakota, so what are you talking about. more? You mean you can brag all you want about being Mexican but I can't have that same pride for my culture? I'll bet you I grew up more Sioux than you did Mexican. I mean, what is a Mexican, anyways? Technically, I think you are Native Americans that were conquered by the Spaniards, and since you have been under their control for so long, you lost your own language, your own religion, your everything. We the Lakota/Dakota/Nakota haven't. We still know who we are.
6. How many of your children/siblings/cousins speak and understand their
native language?
Many, Do you know your native language, or do you only know the language of the people that conquered you?
7. How many of your children/siblings/cousins believe that there is more to
life in addition to being Lakota/Nakota/Dakota?
Stupid question.
8. How has the name Sioux kept you from accomplishing your goals?
No, but I know Sioux people and other Native people that have been hurt by this name/logo and have since moved on. We are more than a logo.
9. How has the name Sioux hurt your children?
They are too young, but the question is, are the kids in Sioux kids club being hurt by not knowing who the true Sioux are, and only referring to a Nation as a moniker/logo?
10. How has the name Sioux made you less of a person?
Less? Why not put this question, not on me, but on you....how has this _________(insert ANY mascot/logo name) name made you more of a person? I'm Sioux, your not.
11. Where is it written that the only Sioux are Lakota/Nakota/Dakota?
I can't believe you, Miss Educated, would even be capable of writing a question as stupid as this. We are Sioux. We are Federally recognized as being such. Are you?
12. What obstacles have your children/siblings/cousins hurdled to achieve your
dreams and goals
You name it sister! We are still getting over obstacles. I mean, there's this University that even tries to make a mockery of my people, but yet we are persevering!! Can you believe that because they have a couple dancers out in the middle of the arena they think they are "honoring" my people? They also are getting a considerable amount of money from our Indian related programs being on campus, yet people are complaining that we shouldn't be on campus (hint hint, if the programs go, UND loses out on $$$ it is makiing by having those programs there (i.e., INMED, INPSYD, etc, etc)).
Instead of trying to attack my people C.I.A., why not be proud of who you are? Embrace your Mexican side!
I wonder if OTHER universities have the loyalty the people up here have to their MASCOT/LOGO. I wonder if people bitch at SCSU about the Huskies....or if they have a dog sled pulling program, or if UM has a lot of land just for the raising of gophers. No, do you know why? Because UND is one of the only Universities to be ignorant enough to use race of people as their logo.
So to all that are reading this. Be proud of who you are. Cheer for your team, but leave the name of my people out of that cheer.
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ps. this website was found at the bottom of the GF herald online.
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Instead of going through all of this to "prove" your Indian, I encourage all of you who have children/friends that will soon be attending UND to check the "NA" box on the application. Instead of only 450 "so-called" Indians on campus, we could have 1000's....what a great concept!!
If the NA box is checked, UND will not even question it. Trust me because I brought my BIA form w/ me, and they said they didn't need to see it.
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I also believe that you aren't supposed to post entire articles on Sioux Sports, as it is a violation of copywrite laws.
I'm sure in your infinate wisdom, you already knew that.
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Did you see I left on of the "A"'s off of NCAA?? Duh......
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Here's a quick snip it from Ojibwe research:
The Ojibwe were the largest and most powerful Great Lakes tribe; perhaps the most powerful east of the Mississippi; and quite possibly the most powerful in North America. The Lakota (Sioux) and Apache have gotten better press, but it was the Ojibwe who defeated the Iroquois and forced the Sioux to leave Minnesota. Very few Americans realize that the Ojibwe were a major power. Their location was well north of the main flow of settlement, and their victories over native enemies have never received proper credit. A variety of names (Ojibwe, Chippewa, Bungee, Mississauga, and Saulteaux) and division of their population between Canada and United States has masked their true size. In addition, the Ojibwe never fought with Americans after 1815. Even before this, their participation in wars between Britain and France or fighting Americans in the Ohio Valley was fairly limited. Considering the prowess of Ojibwe warriors, this was probably just as well for the Americans. However, this does not mean they have been ignored by government. As the Chippewa, they signed more treaties with the United States than any other tribe
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You're a day late and a dollar short, it's already been posted.
And it's merely wishful thinking, but good try.
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Rock on!! I'm sorry I don't spend my life thinking about this name 24/7 and can't read every single post.
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This article is pretty interesting. I know you'd all be interested in reading it....over...and over....and over....lol.
COLLEGE NICKNAMES: Courting disaster
Article text remove by moderator -- please do not post entire articles from other sources, selectively quote
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From the Minnesota Daily:
UND still waving the flag of bigotry
The University of North Dakota needs to drop its racist nickname and logos.
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Aniin and Hou-koda to my brothers & sisters:
Thanks for your kind replies to my heartfelt message.
The things that go on at the UND campus go on everywhere in this world. You cannot stop the way other people feel. You must go on. That's why our reservations are the way they are right now. So worried about what someones saying about you .. about our people. Have you ever said anything negative about a white person grahamcracker?
We all know that answer.
Just like I said last night ... we must move forward and quit crying about the past and how someone hurt my feelings. My feelings get hurt everyday but I get up for work ... help kids ... make my family stronger to accept people of all color ... dream and aspire to do better.
This issue (the Fighting Sioux name and logo) is all about power and how our people once again get influenced by the white man in what's right for Native Americans. Don't you realize what the word "honor" means. You never told me if you were an athlete too grahamcracker? Well, are you?
Why don't you go and talk w/ every single former athlete, current athlete so you can see the passion and pride these Fighting Sioux warriors have. Shame on you for trying to take something away that your entire state is so proud of.
Maybe they can teach a thing or two on loyalty, pride and dignity. You better wake up and smell the coffee. You should be proud that UND has chosen to respect the Sioux nation. And just because someone hurts your feelings you want your people's namesake taken away.
As I mentioned ealier, I'm Native American and making a solid difference in lives of not only our people but children of all colors. It's what the Great Spirit choose me to do. I see them only as human beings ... as Americans ... as our brothers and sisters.
It's 2005 and we must move forward. By losing that Fighting Sioux name and logo your Sioux people will forever lose their identity. But maybe that's what you want so no one can hurt your feelings anymore.
It's time that UND and the students (alumni and current) take a stand to keep the Fighting Sioux name.
May the Great Spirit protect and guide you on your "Good Path".
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I can't believe that you say the same things that the people here say, " By losing that Fighting Sioux name and logo your Sioux people will forever lose their identity"....that just proves how much "Indian" you really are. And by the way, you can claim you Indian-ness all you want, but are you enrolled? Nope, didn't think so.
No, I'm not an athlete (not a collegiate athlete, anyways), but what you are saying is that I need to be an athlete to feel the SIOUX Pride? How about being SIOUX? I guess that doesn't count, eh? I am Lakota to the bone!!! I practice my Lakota way of life, I am teaching my children Lakota, I am proud of who I am and who I stand for, and no one can tell me different.
I'm not bitching, I'm only telling you the facts... and that is....the SIOUX NATION does not want you using our name/that logo to represent this University....how come you can't get that?
I agree....lets move out of the past. But the first step in doing that is changing this logo, because it is the past. There was a time when you could treat Natives with less respect than anyone else, but that time has expired. Plain and simple.
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The University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux:
I've held off writing my comments on the name issue surrounding UND. It's interesting how many people have added their thoughts and feelings in perhaps the most "visible" issue right now in the NCAA.
First, and foremost, I'm a Native American. I'm not a Sioux ... just a hint ... we drove the Sioux to the West out of MN. I'm ashamed of some of the comments produced by the Pro-Natives on this issue. This name was given to "your" people in the 19th century. Why now? Why are you so ashamed of being called a Sioux Indian?
I'm proud to be a Native American Indian as are my children and my extended family. I would be honored if my college would have been called the "Fighting Chippewa's" because that's what we have done since our inception. Fighting solely for survival to exist is this ever changing world. Fighting to make our people a strong nation; educating our children; educating the generation that currently is raising those children; making a difference by voluteering our time to give our children those opportunities we didn't have; having goodness in our hearts with compassion and forgiveness for our fellow people.
The issues right now in Native America are well documented in these forums on SiouxSports.com. We need to quit crying over spilled milk. My family lost all of our land in a dispute with our reservation back in the 1930's and now I don't have any rights nor I'm I even eligible to be on tribal rolls. I'm almost 3/4 Ojibwe but not able to be called a "Tribal Affiliated" Indian. I'm educated plus I've spent the last 25 years of my life in the Youth Movement in both private and public sectors.
I want to leave my legacy over to my children and my people. "I" will make a difference during my lifetime!
This entire issue over the University of North Dakota naming issue has been labeled "hostile and abusive". Wow. That is the most pathetic thing I've ever heard.
The Sioux Nation doesn't want the state's university using their namesake. Why? Because they feel it's abusive. Abusive. That is what's happening right now on reservations and has since the Treaties. How commited are those tribal councils right now to the educational process of their children. Their future generations. I would say they're more focused on Casino's and the lack there of. I pick up the Indian News magazine and primarily see all the corruptness going on across the nation. Why shouldn't those magazines be filled w/ success stories of kids making history.
Well, by letting people influence them on issues like this where history is repeating itself in the regard "the white man is once again telling the Native Americans what's right and wrong for Native America." And why? Because it's giving those councils a chance to puff up the muscles and emerge as the good guys and yet giving away their namesake from their state's university. It will be the demise of your nation.
Have you ever realized that all the athletes who've donned the Fighting Sioux jersey or uniform since Day 1 would die for one another in competition. Are the people on the Tribal Councils around North Dakota former athletes? Probably not. Because you don't know how important things like wearing your state's colors are like representing your country.
I will forever consider the University of North Dakota as the Fighting Sioux. May the Great Spirit bless us all.
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Why does everyone and their dog have a comment, yet you don't want to hear what the SIOUX nation has to say? (oh wait, you DID hear what they had to say, you just didn't want to LISTEN).
I too am Native American. the only difference is I was born into my Lakota tribe, was raised around Lakota people, and back them now. If you truly were Indian and knew of the problems we face here on campus you would back this change in a heartbeat, simply because it is the right thing to do, for ALL Natives. Ho hetche to.
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GK may claim there was a mis representation by the story being told of Thanksgiving...so the name will have to be changed!!!
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Actually.......lolol
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GK posted the articles. He mentioned finding them on microfiche so I would guess they are at the Chester Fritz Library. The link he provided was only good for 7 days so it is long gone. I hope that helps.
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I can work on getting them posted here, but yeah, they were from the Fritz.
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Kracker I'm Calling You Out!
in UND Nickname
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I do listen to MY elders. Thats why I'm fighting the fight I am.