82SiouxGuy
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I don't think many people who are currently season ticketholders would drop the full package for the conference-only package. Most of these people (myself included) have had their tickets for years and are serious fans. I'm just throwing an idea out there in an effort to induce people who may currently go to 2-3 games per year to commit to something a bit more.
A different way to do that would be to set up smaller ticket packages. For example you could set up 4 game packages or 6 game packages. One way to do it would be to put specific games in each package, maybe 3 conference games and a non-conference game or 3. This may get a few more people to some of the non-conference games without scaring them off. Another advantage of this method would be to divide the conference schedule in 2 and sell the same seats to 1 group for half the season and a 2nd group the other half. The other way to do it would be to let them decide which games they want. I think that the Twins have a package deals of 20 games and 41 games besides the 81 game full season package. They also have a flex plan where you pay for 40 tickets at a certain price level and can use them any way you want. You could use 1 at a time for 40 games or 4 tickets for 10 games or any combination you want. That plan lets you redeem the vouchers anytime up to game day, you don't have to decide ahead of time which games you want to see. The Timberwolves have 10 game packages of all weekends, all weekdays or mixed schedules. UND could sell 6 game packages where you get your choice of games, choice would depend on a seniority system like they use now. This would be a little more work for the ticket office because they would have different seats available for each game and sending out the ticket packages would be more work.
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They have started scheduling the days for individual workouts at colleges. These are the days that NFL teams can check out players on a more individual basis at the school they played for, part of the idea being they may be more comfortable in this setup versus the meat market of the combine or Senior Bowl. It can give the teams that show up a little more 1 on 1 time with the players. It also gives more borderline candidates a chance to show what they can do. UND is one of the early dates on March 3.
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The article was in late November. It said that in some cases the family pays for the insurance up front and in other cases the student is able to borrow the premium and pay for it out of the signing bonus (or insurance payment). I think the amount of the policy is at least partially determined by draft position or other rankings that can predict potential signing bonuses.
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Since I don't know how many current season ticketholders there are, I don't know whether this idea would be warranted or not, but one idea may be to offer conference-game-only season ticket packages. Non-conference games are generally a tough sell to the public due to the mostly overmatched opponents. Obviously you would prefer that people buy the entire season package, but purchasing a conference game package would be better than nothing.
The reason they want to include the non-conference games in the season package is to get people to those games. It is the same thing as the NFL including pre-season games in the season ticket package. The games are meaningless, but they want to sell as many tickets to them as possible. So, to get tickets for the games you want to see you have to buy tickets to games you don't. Another example was St. Cloud including tickets to games with Robert Morris in a package with games against UND. If you offered a conference season ticket you would probably lose a lot of ticket sales to the non-conference games.
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Reps from REA and UND have met with Phil about coming back next year for an appearance. He is supposedly interested in coming back if the schedule can be worked out. I think it will depend on whether he is coaching next year, or if a day or 2 can be built into the schedule when LA comes up to play the Wolves.
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So what is wrong with watching a great hockey game while showing a little pride in your team and cheering for them? A loud atmosphere helps out the home team and gets in the road teams head. I dont think anyone at Duke University is telling the students to be quiet and not to stand. I also like to watch the hockey game but believe with 3 minutes left in a one goal game that I should be able to stand up and would hope that the rest of the arena would follow.
No one is telling UND students to be quiet either. People just don't want to hear students chanting a select few words. Yell as loud as you want using the other thousands of words that are available. And I agree that you should be able to stand during important parts of the games, but not all of the time. You probably won't get everyone to stand with you, but many of us are already standing when the game gets exciting.
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So the students are the only ones who are ever supposed to compromise?
I don't see where any compromise is needed on the swearing issue. Chanting profanity shouldn't be acceptable in a public place. Standing is a separate issue. As a matter of courtesy, I believe that the students should sit during the parts of the game that aren't exciting and should be able to stand when it is exciting or when extra energy is needed. Examples might be odd man rushes that look promising, parts of a power play, big hits, great saves, or maybe the last few minutes of a close game. Most hockey fans seem to know when these times come up in a game. This is a compromise that probably doesn't satisfy anyone completely, which means it probably makes sense.
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This is one topic that will be difficult to get everyone to agree on. Music is so subjective, even people that like the same type of music can disagree on individual songs. I like some of the music they play and other times I look at the people around me and ask "why are they playing that".
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Saying they want the two upper sections on both sides of the Bar (organ bar) on the Sioux end that they shoot twice
I have 4 seats in that corner (306) & do not want to move to center Ice
Go to the other end
I'm sure as long as they don't want my seats Who Cares
I am in 306 also and don't want to move anywhere else. We chose those seats because that is the view we wanted. We got lucky and got what we think are great seats.
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The Prpch line scored 1 goal last week against Mankato, 1 against Minnesota and 2 against Anchorage. They don't score a lot, but they have been helping out before this weekend.
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Count me in on the bandwagon. We are about where I expected to be in the league. Our defense is playing better than I hoped for at the beginning of the season. The offense has shown some signs of life, just not this weekend. Don't forget, we scored almost 5 goals a game over the previous 3 games. We just need to find some consistency on offense and we can still make some noise in the WCHA and maybe in the NC$$s.
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I had the same thoughts. It seemed like everyone, including the students should have been more into the last couple of minutes of the game.
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I agree Diggler. I thought that the student section was great last week and hope they will continue this week. The entire crowd has room to improve in the areas of getting involved and organized (the non-students probably more than the students). Some of the music cues mentioned earlier by a student were great. I think that we should all be working on positive ideas like that rather than rehashing the same arguments. As someone else mentioned earlier, we should be working together to make the REA and UND the toughest place for opposing teams to play.
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This proposal definitely makes a lot of sense. Only issue may be that the overhead scoreboard would be off-center, as well as the press box.
As far as the basketball court hurting the ice quality, an REA employee stated on this forum that ice quality was due to underdesign of the piping system, not covering the floor.
As for the games in the Betty, it would seem that the Olympic ice entrance should be used for season ticket holders to limit the congestion in the front lobby. Vendors could also be setup on either end of the Oympic ice arena to limit congestion.
One other issue with the Ralph set-up may be suiteholders at the far end of the arena. They would have a lesser view of the court and it may be obscured if the bleachers set up on that end are high enough.
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I have a pair of tickets available for each night of the St. Cloud series. I am looking for $25 per ticket. Tickets are in Section 306 Row M. Can deliver to REA (will be at the games) or somewhere else in Grand Forks.
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Just curious what it costs to run the new FREE arena with beer gardens and every seat having some kind of monetary contribution vs. the old ralph which was still being paid for while roughly 2,500 seats were free to the students. The same students that raised hell for opposing teams. You obviously know the financials-maybe you can give us all a run down between the two arenas?...
The old Ralph was not free to students. The students got such a large part of the seating because student fees paid for the majority of the building when it was built. The students approved an increase in their student activity fee to pay the bonds on the building. So, the students didn't have to pay for tickets to individual games, but the entire student body paid every semester for the building. I don't remember for sure, but I believe that the increase in fees was at least $50 per year (or more) for every student, not just hockey fans. It was a totally different situation than the current building.
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A teen group I work with helped install the BB court over the ice one time. It took more than 3 hours with at least 20 people to put down the layer of insulation boards first and then put down the court. That didn't include putting up the baskets, the bleachers or some of the sideline stuff. It is very labor intensive.
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Maybe the Gophers would like to play UND on October 21. IIRC they are looking for a game on that date.
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Many of the positions at UND are underpaid (look at the pay rankings for professors). I have interviewed for a couple of positions in years past, including an assistant AD position with RT, and the pay was not great for any of them. That is part of the reason for the constant turnover. How many assistant ADs has UND gone through in the past 5 or 10 years? Most have moved on to higher paying jobs at other colleges or universities.
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Rome wasn't built in a day. This was a great start. If the students keep going like this they will get others to join them. It will take time to get some of those people out of their seats. I am not a big fan of the wave in any venue and won't be joining in on that. But I will be in the upper deck supporting the students in any other way I can. If the students are having fun it will be contagious and others will eventually join in.
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The students were great tonight. It was good to see that people were making an effort. The atmosphere can only get better if the students keep going and pull the rest of the crowd with them.
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This could be great news for UND and Grand Forks. Good quality jobs for grads, good income for families and will probably help attract research dollars to UND. Still a lot of details to work out before it can happen, but is definitely good news.
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Saturday's tickets are gone. Still have a pair for Friday night.
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First of all, they said they lost $300,000 a year because of us? Well, lets think back at to who is keeping this school in business here, who pays as much as three times a year to be here, yeah that is us.... It said that the non- student season ticket holders pay $550, well Im not sure about the rest of you, but Im paying about $5000 a semester to be here. I am aware that the money going to the Ralph, and the money going to the school are two different things, but we're still paying more money than the non- student ticket holders so they cant tell us that they are losing money because of us.
Your tuition money is paying for your education. You would pay that whether we had sports or not at UND. It will, hopefully, give you a better future. You can't count that toward your cost of going to hockey games. And as several other people have pointed out, the people of North Dakota subsidize your tuition which lower your costs without them getting a direct benefit. The money for hockey tickets goes through the REA with profits going to the athletic department. If REA sold the 2,000 student tickets at $300 instead of $75 it would bring in an additional $600,000 per year. They would probably have higher costs involved in selling tickets which would bring us close to the $300,00 they quoted.
I have been to many other college sports, and It seems to me that none of them have as much trouble with the student section as we do. I have been to sporting events that everybody in the building, not just the student section, stands for the whole game.... why is it different here? Why is it that only the students at UND get into the games, if the non- student ticket holders pay so much, they should have as much, if not more pride and spirit than the students. And lastly, last time I checked, this is college, and not high school..... I think we should be able to say anything we want, and I think its sad to hear people tell me that they would rather watch the game on tv at their own place, and they have more fun that way, than if they were at the game in person. thank youI have been to a lot of other venues where they don't stand for the entire game. You don't have to stand to be involved in the game. Many non-students have as much pride and spirit as the students or more, yet don't want to stand the entire game. And yes this is college. College students are usually at least 18 years old and considered adults. So act like adults. Most adults don't spend a lot of time swearing in public places, especially in group chants. Most adults show respect for others around them. And a lot of adults try to set a good example for others, especially children.
No one is asking the students to act like this is church or study hall. Stand when appropriate instead of all the time and yell any of the thousands of words you know that aren't profane. I don't see where this is asking for a huge commitment from the students.
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The ramp will be paid for by parking fees, if you use it you pay for it. That is money the University doesn't have now so it isn't money they could spend on any other use. I'm not sure if that is the right place or not, but it is closer to classrooms than many other potential locations and has the best current access with 2 major streets, Columbia and University. No other location has that access. They paid a consultant to solve a problem and this was the recommendation.