sagard
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I think the point was that POI was ripping on Brandt, who was the player of the game for FSN, TH, and the Herald. I'm sure you could see it coming.
Yeah, I'm not sure why people were upset with Brandt. The Gophs gently ran him twice, right?
He certainly outplayed Briggs and that was the difference of the outcome.
I do truly hope Jordan Parise plays tonight. I need to see if he is really that good or if he is benifitting from the great play of the guys in front of him.
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Come on Sagard, you know that the goalie covering the puck for two full seconds is possesion for a penalty call. Come on over for a good discussion.
I'd have to see a replay. I sit behind Briggs so I couldn't tell at all. From the far side, it just looked like Tallackson shot it, then it trickled it.
I do agree that if Brandt touched it intentionally, by say sweeping it under himself and into the net, the play is dead due to the penalty.
Mostly, I think I'm just frustrated due to having three goals waved off so far this year, with none going the other way. Oh well, I guess there was clearly going to be some pay back for the Michigan non-goal last year at the Frozen Four.
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You guys are hacking on Vanek after last night? He was far better than the GF series.
He also provide the only goals of the night with a nice dish to GP and a 5 on 5 goal against the Parise group.
His criticism is often just, but not last night.
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The penalties we took, we deserved with maybe the expception of Greene in the end. Never saw a replay of that one, but a ballsy call by an AR when the other team is down by one goal.
The two calls that really bugged me were the no call Taylor spear and the no call Gopher stick slash after Genoway was called for one just three minutes before. I also think that Prpichs high stick (which lead to the 5x3) could have used a dive call as well. I do need to see some replays on that however.
The make up late PP was so predictable it made me laugh. It happens all the time in the WCHA, the refs felt guilty about the Sioux PP goals, so they try to make it up. I don't think they do it intentionally, but they do it. No other league in the world does the team trailing by a goal get a "last" PP chance to tie it up.
Bochenski makes it tough on the refs. He goes down in a heep so frequently (at least he did last night), they don't know when he is diving and when he is not. Parise was the complete opposite, hardly ever went down, despite the attention he receives.
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As many predicted, the difference between UND's and UMN's power play was the difference tonight, but not in the way Gopher fans expected.
UM 1/7 (14% -- 86% kill for UND)
UND 2/4 (50% -- 50% kill for UM)
As Sioux fans, we know the game isn't over until the 3rd period ends. UND holds up its third period tradition, scoring on 2 of their first 3 shots in the period (both PP) and an empty-netter, while allowing no goals. +3
Unfortunately, UND fell short of its 5 goals/game average, so we'll have to make up for that tomorrow night to keep the average up
The Sioux PP sure seems to click against the Gophs. That is five this year in three games.
Although PP's look like the difference on paper, I think Brandt (or Briggs) was the difference. He single handedly prevented the Gophs from getting a 2 goal lead.
Then when the Sioux took the lead, the rest of the team really stepped up and shut down the Gophs. I don't think the Sioux gave the Gophs a good chance to tie the game despite the late PP.
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I don't use USCHO, so what is the Woog thread? There are trolls and good Sioux fans posting on your board a lot, so you would have even fewer posts if UND fans weren't visiting POI and if some of your users didn't post everything twice.
The Woog thread on USCHO was a simple 200+ post thread with probably 2/3's ripping him and Frank. I doubt there was a single post with anything new in it's entirety.
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Why do you think the DON is trying to play down the series?
For his players? For the Fans? In case they don't show up?
If you are referring to Lucia's comments on KFan, it didn't sound like he was playing the series down to me. He sounded excited to get a chance to see how far the Gophers have truly come along. He did concede that irreguardless of how the weekend goes, the Gophers are not going to catch the Sioux. Adding that the Gophers need points this weekend, and must beat UW in order to catch them.
The only comment that was somewhat telling is that he chose not to tear into the team during the series in GF. Apparently Lucia thinks blasting the team is not something for the early season.
However, if the Gophers come out flat this weekend, I'm guessing Lucia will blast them.
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They are just jealous that we get more posts here.
I'm not sure more posts is something to be proud of this week.
2PM.
~450 Gophs/Sioux posts here.
~220 on POI
~1400 on USCHO counting the "Woog" thread.
Must be some big games this weekend, eh?
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The Gophers caught a lot of breaks in '02 that is for sure. However, keep in mind that had they had respectable performance by Hauser they may have won the game by in regulation. To Hauser's credit, he did make a lot of saves against Maine, but the 2nd and 3rd Maine goals were weak goaltender errors.
The '02 Gophers have to be the only team that won two 1-goal Frozen Four games despite allowing a goal each game from below the goal line.
I started watching in '81, at age ten. The '81, '88, '89, '92, '93, and '96 teams were all as clearly as good as the teams who won the tourney, but not once did those teams get the breaks to put them over the top. This does not include Frozen Four teams of '94 and '95 who certainly could have got "lucky."
While your guys were racking up NCAA titles, my guys were coming up empty. So whether the '02 Gophers were lucky or not, it doesn't matter to me!
If you all had to watch the UW broadcast every weekend and especially during the '99-'00 season, you'd find them every bit as annoying as the Gophs.
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CC did look horrible in that series, on their home ice. It makes me wonder what kind of team they really are and how tough they are going to play down the stretch.
I wasn't impressed with CC going into the UM series, as the best teams they had faced were SCSU, DU and UW.
Certainly not impressed now. I will be shocked if they make either the Final Five or the NCAAs.
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I know this thread is for updates and I apologize in advance for asking a question on this thread. I'm sure this question has been asked before but I've never heard the answer. Why is there dispairity between each schools records against each other? The gophers claim to hold an 129-112-11 record against us, while we claim to hold a 111-122-11 record against the gophers. Does anyone out there know the real reason we differ in our records against one another? Thanks.
I'd guess the difference is based off when each school started counting the games.
The Minnesota release claims the first game was in 1930. I think the UND stats may include only games that were "NCAA" games. Discarding the matchups in the pre-NCAA days. Just a guess though.
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Minnesota fans:
* repeat, going for threepeat
* Blais is classless
Far from true.
* Sioux's best come from Minnesota
This year. Sure wouldn't have minded seeing #11 or #7 wearing the "M".
* Sioux give scholarships to felons
Had BB accepted a Gopher offer, I'm guessing the "U" would have as well. Plus I'm sure there had to have been some felons on the notorious basketball program at one point.
* REA built with German franks
Boring.
* Zach was a fool
Zach will do very well for him self. His college choice has little impact on that fact.
* Better dead than red - Wisconsin is the real rival
UND and UW are the hockey teams top rivals depending on who is better in a given season. However, it is a fact that there is more general hatred for UW due to their indescretions in other sports.
* Virg has his head up Deano's a$$
The Virg is Deano's Minister of Information line was pretty funny.
* Mariucci is classic - the band, the murals, etc.
It is a nice place. Probably 2nd best in the league.
* Sioux fans are insecure
Some are. Some aren't.
* Grand Forks is a hell hole
I've never visited except for in the late spring for baseball. It was nice, but oftly windy.
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Are the Gophers that good right now? Maybe, but there's certainly no evidence that they are. Sure, they're on an 11-1-2 streak, but against whom?
In that 11-1-2 streak, UMN's average opponent is ranked 24.6 by KRACH. That streak included only 3 games against top 10 opponents, in which the Gophers went 2-1-0.
Preceding that streak, the Gophers played opponents with an average KRACH ranking of 8.4, in which they posted a record of 2-7-1.
Bottom line is that the Gophers have "gotten hot" when they started facing weak opponents. Maybe that's just a coincidence and the Gophers really have gotten better with the return of Ballard/Harrington and apparent improvement from Briggs, but their record against bottom-tier opponents is hardly evidence of it. What will happen now that they're out of cupcakes? That's why they play the games
I think I can find some evidence of improvement.
Basically in the 11-1-2 streak, one can discard the wins over MSU, MTU and Princeton. Too easy. Downright, toaster strudel.
What is left is 6-1-2 vs. teams with an average Krach ranking of 14.5. To me that IS in fact far superior to their early season performance.
The question we all want to know is whether they can compete with the truly elite now. I don't think we will have the full answer until after the Gophers visit UMD. I think UMD is as close to BC and UND as anyone in the country.
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I do love this post. I guess that is why a ticket for this weekend (if you can come by one) is fetching $160 dollars and by the same token you can buy Badger tickets for that series at face value from numerous sources. I guess he did say "historical".....not recent. Nonetheless I think history is changing as it should.
You are paying a severe premium this week due to the Sioux coming in as the #1 team in the country. Last year the same thing happened. For hundreds of Sioux fans in the cities, this is their best chance to see their team. All tickets have been sold, so the price goes way up.
However, in '02, when the Sioux weren't as strong, both the regular season series and playoff series tickets could be had for face or maybe less outside the arena.
When UW came to town in '00 as the #1, tickets were steep then as well.
You want to buy an expensive ticket, wait 'til the Gophs and Sioux get together to settle a Final Five championship. Or if they collide in a NCAA quarter final next year or the year after.
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Well, the boards are a mess this week, as expected. TC transplant, could you please take it over to USCHO? Most of try to not pollute this site or POI (believe it or not). USCHO is perfect for your type of hockey discussion.
Well said.
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If the Gopher fans call Parise "God," then what should they call Bochenski since he is going to win the Hobey Baker?
Despite all the talk about God, shutting Bochenski down is the key to having a chance to beat the Sioux.
I wouldn't be surprised if Lucia asks a forward to get intimate with BB, similar to Prpch on Vanek last time. Likely Waibel, but it could be combination of a forward and a d-man who always get the assignment.
Then you have to hope you actually contain BB's line, and hope Koalska's line plays a lot better vs. the Parise line. They got torched last time, but they don't usually.
The Gophers also need Guyers line and Tallackson to start contributing nightly.
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Great post, PCM. Its good to see that the problem is getting more press.
Aside, is it a coincidence that I heard a bunch of holding calls made against Tech, and ZP had 7 points this weekend? I don't think so...
The Gophs/MSU series was called tighter as well. If the refs would start calling games like this in October, things wouldn't get so out of hand.
I don't think anything will help Mason though. He thinks he can only blow his whistle five or six times per game.
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Sioux win on Friday. Seems they usually do.
This just pi$$es me off. I usually go to the Friday night games.
I think the Gophers are like 1-3-2 on Fridays at Mariucci since '97-'98. The lone victory being the playoffs in '02.
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sagard, I am curious what you would think would happen if the Gophers get swept by the Sioux. Do you think that would adversely affect their NCAA run? I am not talking about WCHA, because it's already established that Lucia doesn't care much for league titles.
I really don't want to think about it.
If the Sioux sweep the Gophers, they would demonstrate they are still at a completely different level than the Gophs. This Gopher team would then have to face a reality that they haven't had to face in their last two titles runs. That is that the WCHA champ (Sioux) is far superior to what the Gophers can be.
It would seriously hurt there NCAA run as well. The last two runs have been launched from getting at top seed and cruising into the Frozen Four. Although they could still pull it off, I really wouldn't like their chances.
What I expect and hope is that the Gophers put out great efforts both nights. If they do that, they will likely get the breaks one of the nights and get a win.
My biggest fear is the Gophers (and they only way I see a Sioux sweep possible) is if the Gophers continue taking stupid penalties and the Sioux PP gets going. The only time I've seen the Sioux PP was against the Gophs and they popped three in that weekend, so I really don't get why they are struggling.
The games at Mariucci always seem to be a let down compared to the games in GF. Often one or both games will be one sided. Should be fun, I'll be at the top of the section 24 Friday in a "02" Champions throwback jersey if anyone wants to put a face with a name.
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Dogz makes a great point
UND vs top half of WCHA 7-1-1
UND vs bottom half of WCHA 5-0-1
Minn vs top half of WCHA 0-5-1
Minn vs bottom half of WCHA 8-2-0
We'll see this weekend. Both teams have a lot of tough games left, but the next two weeks will tell a lot about the Gophers, with UND and Wisconsin coming to town.
If the Gophers can take a game soundly from UND, I will be comfortable knowing they have a chance in the NCAAs.
I'd like the Gophers to get eight points from the UND/UMD/UW series. Splits likely with UND and UMD. Sweeping Bucky.
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Screw GR. Let UMD go there.
I'd much prefer the Gophs in CLSP with the Sioux or sent out east to duke it out with the teams that talk funny.