DamStrait
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Now I get “We have reached out to staff on site about the stream. We hope to have it up soon”.
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I get “Something went wrong during native playback”. Not very encouraging.
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8 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said:
Iceland draws against Argentina.
I’ve not heard that before - is “draw” a verb in that context, or should it be “plays to a draw”? Not trying to go all MafiaMan on you, just curious if it is common usage.
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13 hours ago, jdub27 said:
Did he rig the voting? People wanted a voice, so they were given input. No one forced the stakeholders to compound and then finalize something that you can claim as a mistake the committee made. They were tasked with coming up with a new nickname and gave people 5 options and the vote of the stakeholders is why we are where we are. This blaming the President or the committee is a complete cop-out. The stakeholders picked Fighting Hawks as their top choice twice.
Yes, there was a complete cop-out - by the university president at the time (a feckless putz if ever there was one) - it was incumbent upon him to point out to the committee that none of the names under consideration met the criteria they had established, and demand that it be rectified. The party that decided that the modifier "Fighting" was to precede Hawks and only Hawks deserves a significant portion of the culpability as well.
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3 hours ago, jdub27 said:
Tough to put it all on the committee when students, faculty and staff (including retirees), alumni, donors and season ticket holders were the ones who actually picked it. Complain all you want that the committee (chaired by former hockey player Karl Goehring) failed by leaving it in the finalist group, but the blame lies on those that voted for picking it over Nodaks, North Stars, Roughriders and Sundogs.
Looking at how the committee actually ranked the 7 original finalists using the criteria you mentioned, they preferred Roughriders (48 points) followed by Sundogs and North Stars (46 points), Nodaks (42), Fighting Hawks (41), Green Hawks (35) and no nickname (21).
The people that voted had two different chances to eliminate Fighting Hawks, when the list was narrowed from 5 to 3 and the final vote. Yet it came out on top both times. Again, the committee may have left it on there but it wasn't them that picked it.
I said UND, not the committee (which is/was a part of UND), but ultimately the responsibility and blame lies on the university president at the time.
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3 hours ago, ChrisUND1 said:
How much do you think this would cost?
Private donors would foot bill, I assume?
Who would get to choose the new name and logo?
I'll hang up and listen...
In order:
1. Ultimately much, much less than keeping the current horsecrap one.
2. Sure, why not start there.
3. In a perfect world, me. Let’s see...Fighting Scouts with a Lewis and Clark Corps of Discovery theme. Done! I’ll even give in on the “Fighting”, just to show how reasonable I am.
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3 hours ago, UND1983 said:
You downvote way to f'n much.
Infinitely preferable, I should think - for all involved - than for me to have responded to each of those posts with “you’re full of crap”.
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1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said:
I think we can all agree that the committee failed big time following their own directives in picking a nickname. That being said, There is no chance they they are going to scrap the whole thing and start again from scratch. Given the time, resources, and most importantly money it would take to develop and implement a new nickname and logo, I don't see that happening.
Did the committee screw up? Yep. Is the nickname bland and unoriginal? Yep. Could the logo have been better? Yep. But That is the reality we are living in right now. Focusing our efforts accepting what we have goes a lot further than resisting something we can't change.
If a small group of hand-wringing, mouth-breathing, bed-wetters could convince the NCAA to ban Fighting Sioux, it should be more than possible to get UND to change Fighting Hawks to something THAT MEETS THEIR OWN GUIDELINES!!! The objection to Fighting Hawks is very much more legitimate, appropriate and defensible than the aforementioned group's objection to Fighting Sioux. And as a disclaimer for the "Fighting Hawks Forever" crowd - yes, I understand why Fighting Sioux had to go (and I supported that decision), and that it will never be coming back.
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14 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:
Can we get over adding the word "Fighting" to every potential name? It's just a weak attempt to hold onto something that's gone. Both Hawks and Scouts sound better without it.
Just my opinion.
Personally, I’m not married to the ‘fighting’ qualifier, but I think it might make it more acceptable to the majority - just as having added it to ‘Hawks’ allowed it to win the vote. I believe that if it had been instead added to ‘Nodaks’, that would have been the one to garner the most votes.
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19 hours ago, UND1983 said:
I got it, makes sense. What would the options be for UND?
At the risk of repeating myself (again): It is not a logo, or more importantly name, befitting the state's flagship university. I suggest the powers-that-be change the name to "Fighting Scouts" with a Lewis and Clark Corps of Discovery themed logo(s). "Fighting" is particularly appropriate in this case since the expedition was comprised of members of the US Army. "Corps of Discovery" should also be used as secondary marking (on signage, uniforms, publications, merchandise, etc.). This would be much more relevant to the state, as they spent more time in what would become North Dakota than in what would become any other state, and much more marketable. Fun fact - the ND state highways that runs along the east and west sides of the Missouri River are designated "1804" and "1806", respectively, to commemorate the years Lewis and Clark went up the Missouri and came back on their return.
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6 hours ago, darell1976 said:
Don’t worry your buddy DamStraight will down vote me. So you two can high five each other later.
Don’t post moronic drivel and you won’t get a down vote.
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10 hours ago, Teeder11 said:
Like what?
It is not a logo, or more importantly name, befitting the state's flagship university. I suggest the powers-that-be change the name to "Fighting Scouts" with a Lewis and Clark Corps of Discovery themed logo(s). "Fighting" is particularly appropriate in this case since the expedition was comprised of members of the US Army. "Corps of Discovery" should also be used as secondary marking (on signage, uniforms, publications, merchandise, etc.). This would be much more relevant to the state, as they spent more time in what would become North Dakota than in what would become any other state, and much more marketable. Fun fact - the ND state highways that runs along the east and west sides of the Missouri River are designated "1804" and "1806", respectively, to commemorate the years Lewis and Clark went up the Missouri and came back on their return.
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It is not a logo, or more importantly name, befitting the state's flagship university. I suggest the powers-that-be change the name to "Fighting Scouts" with a Lewis and Clark Corps of Discovery themed logo(s). "Fighting" is particularly appropriate in this case since the expedition was comprised of members of the US Army. "Corps of Discovery" should also be used as secondary marking (on signage, uniforms, publications, merchandise, etc.). This would be much more relevant to the state, as they spent more time in what would become North Dakota than in what would become any other state, and much more marketable. Fun fact - the ND state highway that runs along the east and west sides of the Missouri River are designated "1804" and "1806", respectively, to commemorate the years Lewis and Clark went up the Missouri and came back on their return.
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Time to move the league offices out of Denver - remove all appearance of favoritism.
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7 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:
Doesn't matter how bs it is. He was more of a liability this weekend than an asset. He needs to figure it out.
Officials need to have integrity - if not, they need to be removed - otherwise the league lacks integrity.
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If Shepherd is an NCHC official next weekend, the NCHC has no integrity.
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To the moronic SJW (yes - I know - redundant) with the white board that said something to the effect "you've been the Fighting Hawks since 2010 - buy a new jersey" - as usual, your information is incorrect - not that it matters to you - it's all about doing and saying whatever makes you feel better. Hopefully some day soon someone parts your hair with that white board (jackass).
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I'm thinking the entire coaching staff needs to go at this point - pretty much horrible in all three phases of the game.
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Anybody trying to get the Hennessy audio via the UND Apple app? I can't get it to work.
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8 hours ago, cberkas said:
They need to come up with a logo that's better then what they paid for.
They need a moniker that actually follows the criteria that were made for choosing one.
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59 minutes ago, focker said:
Now that the tournament is back where it belongs ...
"...you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true."
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1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:
My Gopher buddy in Fargo said he'd give me $200/ticket to tag along for any of my 4 in Sec. 110 for either night.
Two things wrong with your post:
A. You have a Gopher buddy.
B. You failed to include in your post that you told him to eat $hit and die upon hearing his request.
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20 hours ago, Yote 53 said:
Perusing this thread. From an outsider's perspective, whatever new name you chose was going to receive resistance, however, choosing something as stale and generic as "Hawks" was like adding fuel to the fire. I don't think this debate would still be raging the way it is and people would have opened up more to the new nickname if the original key attributes for choosing the new nickname were followed:
- Representative of state/region
- Honor past/look to future
- Promote pride, strength, fierceness, passion
- Sense of community/connectedness
- Intimidation to competitors
- Unique, recognizable, distinctly UND
The administration started with these attributes and ended up with a generic "Fighting Hawks". How does that happen? The name does none of those things. Perhaps if the nickname met the original criteria there would be more acceptance.
My advice, save whatever money you were going to spend on any major marketing campaign to promote and sell the new logo and start over, pick something new. After people see how bad it CAN get...Fighting Hawks...they will be much more receptive to something else.
Nailed it. Absolutely crushed it out of the park. Could not have said it better myself.
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How could the on ice officials review that hit on CJ and not throw Pionk out of the game? Honestly, Todd Anderson needs to be forced out of the league. Pionk needs to get two games minimum - one for the one he should have been thrown out of, and one for supplemental punishment. And if worthless jackbag Donnie Adam doesn't do it, then Fenton needs to fire both Adam and Anderson, and give Pionk the two games himself. The tournament is a boon to the league really only because of UND fans - UND certainly shouldn't get special treatment because of it, but they sure as hell had better get fair treatment.
North Dakota at Canisius January 4-5, 2019
in Men's Hockey
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