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11 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
If you can't recognize that the teams are worse this year than they have been overall in awhile that I don't know what to say. Who is better this year? South I suppose.
The only top team that is worse this year is central. South is better, RR is better, WF is better, FN is better, and Davies is Flat.
Out west I’d say 4 of the top 5 teams are down and Jamestown is up.
Year over year MN teams vs ND teams record shows to be pretty similar. ND held the upper hand 4 seasons in a row until this year when MN won the series 23-22.
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7 hours ago, petey23 said:
A little longer path as Rauhauser will turn 25 in March and Spooner will turn 24 in March.
The average age for a NCAA college hockey SR is 24 years old.
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16 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
I feel you are a complete fuking idiot as well for not recognizing how low the talent level is in this state and the best players won't get much better playing against that low level. There is parity because all the best players left. Congrats on your parity.
Many many ND kids within the past 10 years have went D1 while staying through their SR year of HS. So obviously the talent level worked out just fine for them, No? Or doesn’t that count for your candy cock opinion?
Are the top 8 teams in MN at a higher skill level than the top 8 in ND? Absolutely, no question. But If you averaged out the skill Level of the 250-300 MN teams into one and compared that to the averaged out skill of the 19 ND teams I know they’d be pretty dang similar. And every year the top 2 ND teams would fall within the top ten MN A teams no problem.
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1 hour ago, UND1983 said:
Today is why all the top players are leaving the state.
You’re a complete idiot who obviously knows nothing about NDHS hockey and hasn’t followed along at any point this season. Everyone knew this was coming in the first round (other than you) but everyone also knows that these are going to be some of the best semi finals we’ve seen in a decade. Any of these 4 teams could take the title and they’ve proven that by exchanging blows all year long. I can’t remember the last time there have been 4 legitimate teams in the mix like this. It’s exciting and is good for ND hockey. And not only that, there are another two teams at home right now (WF and FN) that probably had a decent shot at pulling off some upsets if they could’ve made the tournament.
Unfortunately The majority of the time we know who the heavy favorite is or maybe have 2 teams with a good shot. So this change is welcomed.
The East and West are typically a little unbalanced but this year is worse than ever before. I think the top 6 teams in the state are all from the East this season. Thankfully it should level off a little again next year. And within the last 10 years the west has faired quite well with 2 titles and 7 championship appearances.
This year’s tournament is also exciting because it’s clear any of these 4 teams would hold their own in any state hockey tournament in the country. Even the lower class tournaments of MN and WI. None of them are at the elite level like central has been the past 2-3 years, but I also think central would’ve been a legitimate top 5 AA MN team the last few seasons which is arguably the best HS hockey in the nation.
ND gets compared to MN all too often, and it makes people forget that MN towers over any other state’s numbers as well. ND actually fairs quite well, especially per capita for numbers, skill level and D1 production.
And another thing— people often get blinded by the MNHS hockey tournaments and look down on NDHS hockey. But they forget that for every team in that MN tournament there are 20 teams at home and 15 of them are complete garbage who’d get run out of the EDC. Hence Wahp/breck going winless for many years and moving to MN and finding pretty decent success because there are 15 garbage teams in MN for every 1 elite.
As for kids leaving, MN has problems of their own. They run into a lot of issues of the high skilled kids transferring to other elite HS teams. It creates a tradition for 85% of the teams of being bottom dwellers. For instance, Crookston has NEVER in their history made it to the state tournament.
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5 hours ago, Wilbur said:
Look at Rauhauser (sp) from Century, or Spooner from BHS. Turned out pretty well for Bowling Green and Mankato.
It will always go back to the competition argument and number of games the high school league allows.
Nelson from Williston even had a decent tenure with Mankato.
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24 minutes ago, sioux rube said:
2018
Oh wow, I didn’t realize it was so recent. What about before that? Haha
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When’s the last time Jamestown made it to state?
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Miller kid from grafton ditched his buddies to drive to GF everyday to play for central. I’d never recruit a kid like that.
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1 hour ago, Wilbur said:
You are seeing more and more kids not playing high school. I know of at least four from Minot that would have been Soph-Junior age this year that went other places. Notre Dame Hounds, one to Shattuck, one to AZ Jr. Coyotes, and one to Colorado.
Yeah it sucks. Many have proven that you can play through your SR year and still get a D1 scholarship and yet it still happens constantly. I’d be willing to bet that more D1 players from ND finished their SR than not. And yes that even includes kids from the West.
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1 hour ago, sioux rube said:
Even Jamestown had one transfer in Senf who went to Fargo South/Shanley after 8th grade and is doing very well for them.
Exact same thing for 8th grader from DL to South in Boren. Freshman now and doing really well
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We could play that game all night. Not all D1 caliber players, but every single team is missing guys to JRs or transferring
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2 hours ago, Wilbur said:
Looks at the moment like....
RR vs. Jamestown
GFC vs. Bismarck
Century vs. Davies
South-Shanley vs. Minot
I'm a west hockey supporter, but this year is an EDC sweep. Gonna take a Western goalie standing on his head and then some.
Blow out, major blow out, semi blow out and blow out. Tough year for the west
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4 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
This article says Colorado is the most underrated hockey hotbed in the country.
I would rate North Dakota higher, specifically Greater Grand Forks.
They’ve won the hockey town USA award like 5 years in a row
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2 minutes ago, green_sioux said:
Brown was president of Altru for years???
He was for several years as far as I know. Is that not correct?
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Brown was the president of Altru for how many years and left it falling apart, holding on by a thread. He was also the mayor of Grand Forks for how many years and drove the community into the ground...
Common theme here is that Brown was a obvious mistake to be holding the helm at the 2 most important positions of the community for so many years. Blows me away that he won in 2016, and I’ll be flabbergasted if he wins again in 2020. Wake up Grand Forks
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7 minutes ago, OgieOgilthorpe said:
Thank god panzer switched to EGF to play against the highly touted Crookston team...because those RR and Central games weren’t competitive enough.
Oh, but hey, Davies is no good...currently taking central down the the wire just like EGF did. But ND hockey sucks.
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Thank god panzer switched to EGF to play against the highly touted Crookston team...because those RR and Central games weren’t competitive enough.
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Maybe bubba will have them punt on 1st down this drive
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5 hours ago, Wilbur said:
I'm just irritated by more and more kids choosing not to play ND high school hockey. I know its discussed at the coaches meetings, but something seriously needs to be done. Double class system, more games, statewide league....I don't know.....
In Minot I know of at least four kids that have went the midget hockey route. And those are all kids who have strong ties to the Minot Hockey community.
And then you'll have of all names...a Panzer playing AGAINST GFC this year for East Grand.
I’m 100% with you on this and share your frustration. It’s getting worse every single year. Even when there are examples of kids who stayed through their SR in both the east AND west and made it D1. Then the large majority of these kids who leave early to sit on the bench of a crap jr team and kill their careers. Hard to comprehend what these parents are thinking by pushing their kids out early to ruin their development.
Why not stick around and learn how to be a leader of a team, score a ton of points and finish out high school with your lifetime friends. There’s plenty of time to go play hockey after that. I too often see kids leave too early get beat down and ruin their development.
if you’re good enough, they’ll find you anywhere.
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Any score updates from opening night? Sounds like central game is close?
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20 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:
Bottom line a 7-4 UND team, with their SOS, should get them into the playoffs.
Debatable. Even if they have a blow out win today their chances are still sub 25% to get a playoff spot. Look at all the other teams in the mix and tell me the committee won’t have a bias away from UND
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ND High School Hockey 2019-20
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Nope, the overall average age of men’s hockey SRs is 24. That covers all players from all routes