OgieOgilthorpe
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What’s the latest on the Aldi’s coming to GF?
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7 hours ago, Hammersmith said:
Ehh, more like 50 years. Can't really compare GF and Fargo; you need to compare Greater GF and the FM metro.
Year - GreaterGF/FMMetro/FM bigger than GGF percent
1960 - 84,859/106,027/+25%
1970 - 95,537/120,238/+26%
1980 - 100,944/137,574/+36%
1990 - 103,181/153,296/+49%
2000 - 97,487/174,367/+79%
2010 - 98,461/208,777/+112%
2018 - 102,299/245,471/+140%I can agree MSA population does definitely give you a clearer understanding.
GF MSA is essentially the same as 40 years ago and Fargo MSA has essentially doubled. WOW
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On 5/12/2021 at 12:33 PM, JohnboyND7 said:
I think some of it is some statewide effort to have more entertainment Medora and Fargo. But yeah i think it's pretty hokey.
Not sure its entirely fair to compare Grand Forks to other areas. The western energy boom is self explanatory like you mentioned.
Fargo is just best equipped to grow in the east. Two interstates, an hour closer to civilization. Many more college kids available to be retained. I'm thinking that has started to snowball quite a bit.
Not sure how Grand Forks can experience anything similar. Geography will steer people south. Hopefully they can snag some good jobs related to the base and tech or whatever. Big fan of the town up there. If I landed a great job opportunity up there I'd jump at it.
Many more college kids available to be retained? I don’t think that’s the issue. GF/EGF has roughly 20k college kids each year...I think that’s plenty. It’s not the number of kids to retain, it’s the number of opportunities available to retain them. Grand forks is slacking for long term salary career type options.
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15 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:
Look at the growth charts for both. Post flood Fargo took off and left GF in the dust. They swing for the fences at every pitch. They’re bound to hit a ton of home runs. Meanwhile we haven’t even chosen a bat and will likely try and bunt once we do.
Exactly! if you look back 20-30 years the 2 towns were extremely comparable in size. The flood was a big hit of course, but overall the poor long term leadership played the biggest role by far in Gf falling so far behind.
The “Closer to the cities” or “civilization”comment is mostly dumb to me. Canadians love to come to the US, even when the FX is unfavorable. There is a metro area of almost a million people (larger than all of ND) just across the border that used to flock to gf in giant armies. Now (pre-covid) they bypass gf for Fargo because everythings out of business in Gf.
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1 hour ago, northernraider said:
Should request that sweet state money for a theme park, beat Jamestown to the punch.
Sugar Beetland U.S.A.
I saw some of the indoor activities plans and ideas from the mayor. Hopefully a few of those get executed. Lots of smaller projects like that add up overall, but a few big moves need to happen soon IMO. Hillsboro had the same % growth as GF, so whatever has been happening in the recent past isn’t working anymore.
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ND grows by an outstanding 107,000 people in a short 10 years which is about 16%...wow! 2010-2020
But somehow, of those 107,000 new citizens, only a measly 800 were counted from the state’s 3rd largest city?! Ouch
Yes, absolutely the oil boom played a major factor out west, but man alive...only averaging a positive 80 people per year out of 60k in the state wide booming decade?!
Side note- You’ve got to give it to those western communities for developing at warp speed to help aid in retaining citizens after the boom cooled.
IMO- GF only getting 2.0% growth in the hub of the NE quarter of ND during this booming decade makes it almost seem like leadership would’ve had to purposely make an effort to suppress the growth given everything happening state-wide. What gives?
The NE primarily suffered all together especially compared to the other 3 regions. Did it suffer because the hub failed, or did the hub fail because of the impacts of the region failing. Poor ag years? Fargo, Bis and Minot success overshadow and stunting GF growth?
The West boomed for obvious reasons, but the SE boomed by blazing their own successes. Did the huge SE successes overshadow the NE so badly that it’s completely stunted it? New businesses and talent are continuing to chose Fargo and Bis, adding to the momentum just exacerbating the issue.
Hopefully the new GF leadership capitalizes on the niches of the region, takes some risks to attract some attention and turns things around to catch back up before Minnie Minneapolis sucks the life out of Forks even further.
I like seeing all the downtown development. Great start for sure. Now they need to land some big businesses looking to relocate out of IL, MN, NY and CA. Warm bodies to fill roles will limit all of ND currently but hopefully that changes soon!
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14 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:
Let's see how they respond this Saturday.
That’ll be a big indicator game. Hopefully they come back playing mad
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Anyone else feel that shift back to the normal pushover und football we thought we broke away from? Got spanked by the rival, have a few new key injuries, moral fell hard, and now losing a needed game off the schedule. 5-2 with a loss to 1-4 YSU or misery state would put them on the fence for even making the playoffs.
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Youngstown is hot and IL state is no sluff...I’m a little worried this moral killer could have und losing their last 3/4 games and missing the playoffs all together
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3 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:
Look at Lennon dominating this hand shake. Can’t blame Bohl for being shook. Dale has more hair in his stache than Bohl has on his entire body.
Look at those baggy long sleeve polos. Reminds me of 90’s Tiger. Or 90’s everyone I guess
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Anyone know of anywhere in Fargo that’ll have the game on?
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11 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:
anyone actually explained why?
Because he’s a strange little hermit dude
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11 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:
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Glad they’ve figured out how to put games away and how to come away with wins in these close games. I’d like to see better QB play but overall everyone seems stout.
Important to remember this easily could’ve been a 35-10 or at least 28-10 game if they clean up those Deep turnovers.
exciting team to watch. I know I’ll enjoy watching other games this weekend a lot more knowing UND already took care of business! Go misery state!
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Just now, crb1 said:
I agree but I wouldn’t call him trash. Just can’t throw the ball.
Seems to be an important trait for a QB. He’s certainly looked better but he better turn it around or we’re about to see a lot more of Quincy
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How much time left? Need a TD here though to keep away from a clock watch
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Otis the elevator!!
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I may have missed it, but are there any changes to the 2 deep worth mentioning? New Injuries, guys coming back from injury?
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3 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:
However, Gee and Skokna can catch. Otis may have the worst hands I’ve ever seen.
Caught that fumble bounce though now didn’t he?!
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4 hours ago, SiouxBoys said:
Interception gained us like 7 yards. Not the worst outcome at all and he avoided the sack. Tommy might not blow anyone away but he absolutely has the "it" factor.
He’s like teddy bridgewater
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Why is Otis not getting 9/10 carries? This is a huge game and he is absolutely by far their best carrier
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They always draw me in just far enough to get my attention and a little excited. The reality checks are the most consistent thing out of this program
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Bisonville folk are acting a little uneasy this week...
sure is an awful lot of talk about a certain 5 turnovers for some reason
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Just now, forksandspoons said:
I say just throw some jump balls to Maag and let him go get it
They need to try something at this point. How many times can the d set them up
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