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I think the logistics of a UND/NDSU membership into the Big Sky would be more complimentary for the BSC versus a SDSU/NDSU membership. I think the Big Sky is trying to see if UND will make the plunge with a little nudge from the Sky...I think in the eyes of the Big Sky the UND/NDSU matchup will do a lot more for the bottom line (money) due to their longstanding rivalry (which sells tickets during matchups). Of course, this is only my view to counter the "Big Sky begging UND for applying for membership"

I thought a long time ago that UND people were done talking about NDSU? Doesn't the constant trashing of NDSU get old for anyone? Is there nothing else to chat about? Also, why don't most of those who give their opinion, misguided or not on both sides of the issue, just lay it out and leave it at that? If you want NDSU to fail, then just state that and get on with life.....or if you want UND to become the D1 wannabe's, then say it and quit pulling old news into the forum. I think I may be preaching in an empty church tho, so.....whatever. I am going back to Bisonville.com and leave you all to your thoughts. Just some ideas to ponder .

I am still surprised at the amount of NDSU smack being tossed around on SiouxSports.com. I guess I don't watch this board as much as I had in the past due to the loss of the rivalry but I was bored today so I logged in and saw anit-NDSU this and thats all over the place. I thought our marriage of hatred was over?? I know a few of you will tell me its because of the trouble-making Bison fans coming on to poke around and cause some trouble, but I still read a lot of posts from UND fans saying the same thing over and over with little responses from Bison fans. Thats all, just wondering if this may ever end...

Oh heck! I posted again! Seriously, this is the last time for today. Sorry to offend you guys on SiouxSports.com with my "mindless Bison intelligence" or whatever you guys label me as.

Does anyone have a transcript or link to Hallstrom's opinion broadcast? I am too late to access it online without paying money, and the heating bill is huge this month (ie-I am cheap).

Oops, I guess I posted. I will try to stop myself next time. Just disregard the above entry.

Ironically, we say the same thing on Bisonville.com. I guess its just perspective. It would be great if we parted ways, but I doubt the passion everyone has for or against these 2 schools will ever thaw. Good luck in your endeavor though!

This has been a very upsetting event that affects everyone across the state. Although I did not know these 2 fine individuals, I am nonetheless saddened at the loss of their lives. I wrote a little bit on the Bisonville site about my feelings, and wish to repeat it here for all who knew these men and any others who have fallen in the line of fire or, like myself, know people who are stationed over in Iraq. I have the greatest respect for the people in the American armed services, and in my opinion they all are heroes for what they sacrifice for our way of life. God bless those guys and their families. Being a soldier is never a job that brings prosperity, glamour, and security, but instead is a service of a higher stature. Their sacrificies were for our freedom and security to be maintained, and regardless of one's view upon the war in Iraq these two are heroes and saviors of the sword. They are now in a higher place where war, suffering, and violence will no longer affect them, and in this I take comfort while remembering their loss. God bless Keith Smette and Kenneth Hendrickson, and those who they left behind.

Just wanted to drop a line to wish everyone on the SiouxSports.com Messageboard a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! I hope everything goes well for UND in the future and look forward to future "discussions" on this board and Bisonville.com for those who like to mix it up with the Bison fans. I know some of you have engauged in some heated discussions with myself and other Bison fans and I must say I look forward to debating future topics as they come about. In any case, have a great and safe holiday season!

PCM--you about as classy as prefab concrete yourself. Sorry if you had to jump down my throat because I congrad-ed your team. Also, I guess I have to be a UND fan in order to wish congrads to the team....silly me! You are the kind of person that gives UND a bad name, I hope you are ok with that.

I just wanted to say that congrads on the season and I hope your future continues to be fruitful. I think UND's team this year pulled together when it counted, and thus made them a true football TEAM. Congrads again and continued success in rep-ing the NCC in DII....

Congrads on the big win UND fans. As a NDSU fan, I was pulling for UNA but once again the Sioux pulled off the W. I just hope this rematch for the championship goes opposite of your other championship game 2 years ago....(sorry, but I got to root for Grand Valley. Hopefully you understand.). Anyhow, good job and break a leg next week....

I obviously won't move the minds on this board with my position no matter how well I think I describe it, so I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on who is to blame for this mess. You think UND is pure, in the good, and has done nothing wrong, where I think there are mistakes on both sides. Thats alright. I guess I am tired of the debate over the game. I would like to see a resolution to this problem in the near future, and would like to see the game go onward or ended all together. I still support NDSU's move to DIAA and am fine with UND's position of staying in DII. I guess everyone can't agree on everything. I think it is a shame that one of the longest running rivalries in the nation will probably be ended, but I guess everything has to come to an end sometime. It was fun UND! Good luck on the future in DII.

So...apparently you guys all think I am some NDSU spinster who is trying to blame UND for the end of the rivalry? Well, I am sorry to say that this is something I truly believe. I am not placing belame on UND for starting the ball rolling, BUT I do believe that UND was not outright and upfront on its position concerning the implications of the move upon the rivalry. Roger Thomas still does not draw the line in the sand and answer the question everyone wants answered. Does that mean NDSU thought of the consequences of their decision? No, and such makes the CURRENT situation a product of both institutions and their inability to compromise or decide on a solution. I think it is unfair to place the whole of the blame upon NDSU. To say it is all NDSU's fault is a product of the spin UND has placed upon the situation, and visa versa with regards to NDSU supporters. I am not saying its all UND's fault because Roger won't sign the contract, but the hesitation of the current decison to continue and the lack of immediate refusal to play the rivalry due to NDSU's DIAA move I believe contributes to the current situation. Only when both sides come together and talk this through to agreement will this be resolved. I am afraid this has turned into a political situation, and just like Dems vs. GOP'ers both sides are blaming each other for the problems instead of solving it, and as such are both responsible for nothing getting resolved. Hopefully Roger and Gene put their mutually stubborn heads together and come to a bilateral decision on the future of the rivalry. If not, then Roger needs to say, "No, we choose not to play anymore for these reasons...." and allow both sides to move onward (although for him this is a 'rock and a hard place' situation). I hope this does not end the rivalry, but I think this needs to be resolved quickly. I am tired of the finger pointing. I am not sure who you talked to Airmail, but everyone I know is for it. I guess only time and the almighty dollar will tell where this ends up.