Sioux Nickname

[sioux7>5]

Here is a copy of an email I received from the NCAA regarding the nickname issue. You will notice that the only people that he mentions that brought this issue to the NCAA were Psecial Interest groups. It is all BS. I welcome your comments and hope that this helps. I still maintain that the NCAA has oversteped its authority and that we will eventually prevail in the long run. I support HR 5289....Well here it is. I included his name and phone number as part of the email.....

Dear Mr. Haug:

Thank you for your e-mail, which was forwarded to my attention at the

NCAA national office.

The decision to restrict Native American mascots and imagery was made by

the NCAA Executive Committee. This group of college and university

presidents represents more than 1,200 NCAA member institutions.

Although the University of North Dakota maintained that its logo and

nickname are used with consummate respect, the position of the seven of

the namesake tribes and others affected by the hostile or abusive

environment that the nickname and logo create take precedence. The

decision of overwhelming majority of namesake sovereign tribes,

regarding when and how their name and imagery can be used, must be

respected even when others may not agree.

The NCAA became involved with the Native American mascot issue due to

three events:

o Concerns raised by various Native American interest groups.

o A request from our member institutions.

o The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Statement concerning the use

of Native American images and nicknames on sports symbols.

There have been no similar requests or statements concerning any other

group.

Thank you for your comments on this important topic.

Bernard W. Franklin

Senior Vice President for Governance and Membership

NCAA

P.O. Box 6222

Indianapolis, IN 46206-6222

Phone: (317) 917-6222

[stafford_rules]

Here is a copy of an email I received from the NCAA regarding the nickname issue. You will notice that the only people that he mentions that brought this issue to the NCAA were Psecial Interest groups. It is all BS. I welcome your comments and hope that this helps. I still maintain that the NCAA has oversteped its authority and that we will eventually prevail in the long run. I support HR 5289....Well here it is. I included his name and phone number as part of the email.....

Dear Mr. Haug:

Thank you for your e-mail, which was forwarded to my attention at the

NCAA national office.

The decision to restrict Native American mascots and imagery was made by

the NCAA Executive Committee. This group of college and university

presidents represents more than 1,200 NCAA member institutions.

Although the University of North Dakota maintained that its logo and

nickname are used with consummate respect, the position of the seven of

the namesake tribes and others affected by the hostile or abusive

environment that the nickname and logo create take precedence. The

decision of overwhelming majority of namesake sovereign tribes,

regarding when and how their name and imagery can be used, must be

respected even when others may not agree.

The NCAA became involved with the Native American mascot issue due to

three events:

o Concerns raised by various Native American interest groups.

o A request from our member institutions.

o The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights Statement concerning the use

of Native American images and nicknames on sports symbols.

There have been no similar requests or statements concerning any other

group.

Thank you for your comments on this important topic.

Bernard W. Franklin

Senior Vice President for Governance and Membership

NCAA

P.O. Box 6222

Indianapolis, IN 46206-6222

Phone: (317) 917-6222

they tend to answer the questions we have with a generic answer.

[sioux7>5]

they tend to answer the questions we have with a generic answer.

I am still trying to figure out what the hell he was talking about....But I give them credit that I got a response. I do think it is funny that he mentions that no other requests have been made from other groups. I had asked them to look into why schools with names like Vikings and Fighting Irish are allowed to keep there names....He danced aroud that one. I think the FSU and Notre Dame just make way to much money for them....

[Sioux27]

Not alot of substance in his response. I sent an email about 30 days ago and haven't heard a thing back. I am not getting my hopes up for a reply. If I do get a response I hope it takes on a more "challenging" response.

[PCM]

I received a very similar e-mail from Bernard Franklin three months ago.

Edited May 23, 2006 by PCM

[stafford_rules]

i didnt really figure it out either. dont you just hate it when you ask someone a question, and they tell you every little detail about everything that isnt remotely related to the question you asked? i swear, they must have one universal email for every question that is submitted. its a freaking joke that they cant answer one tiny question.oh well.....

[HockeyMom]

I received the exact same e-mail two or three months ago.

Nice!.......yet oh so funny at the same time.

[PCM]

Bernie's e-mail to me was in response to this letter I e-mailed to Myles Brand. As you can see, he responded to every single point I raised.

[sioux7>5]

Bernie's e-mail to me was in response to this letter I e-mailed to Myles Brand. As you can see, he responded to every single point I raised.

PCM your letter just proves that the NCAA wants to hold UND to a standard they are even unwilling to meet. The NCAA is a joke and once again I will say I support HR 5289......They(the NCAA) need to be monitored and there power reduced....Go SIOUX!

[Sioux Hockey Fanatic]

Seems to me that if the Fighting Sioux nickname is hostile and abusive then so are all the other names that have gotten the approval to be used. I'm not sure why the groups that so strongly oppose the Fighting Sioux nickname have stopped there, if the Sioux tribes have endorsed the use of the nickname and the Seminoles, Fighting Illini, Utes (etc) have endorsed the use of that/those nickname(s) why has the NCAA ruled that Fighting Sioux is hostile and abusive while Seminoles(etc)are not? It seems to me that if one finds Fighting Sioux hostile and abusive then they would find all the references to Native Americans hostile and abusive. Has anyone asked the NCAA to explain that one...other than that they considered each case on its own.