Brent_Bobyck
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I'd agree with you that UND didn't end up being his second choice, but to say jeff could have played in any program he choose is a stretch. Don't get me wrong Jeff's a great guy and a fantastic player, but Coach K and Dean Smith don't make to many trips to this neck of the woods. I think he was restricted to the mid-west teams.
Agreed that Coach K and Dean Smith didn't make too many stops at Grand Forks International Airport but talent wise he could step on any court and be on an equal level.
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if you check with those two....I am sure you will find as absurd as it seems..Jeff's personal choices were #1 Kansas..#2 UND.....Big John same Thing as I know UND was in his Thoughts......ABSURD? maybe but we did have a chance...more so than alot others...
Boschee did not have UND #2 on his list. If a guy can go to Kansas and win Big 12 Freshman of the year honors, he could play at any program in the nation. Duke, UNC, Iowa, Michigan, Kentucky. If someone can go and play at a big time D-1 school he is not going to have UND on his list.
UND was not #2 with "Big John" because he went to Northern Iowa when he transferred. If UND was #2 why didn't he transfer back home?
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Totally agree just wish we knew who those kids were?...I think we have missed on a few..Lindgren,Burkhart,Arenson,..to name a few....or what would be nice is to get a Nick Jacobson,Jeff Boschee,John Godfread to stay home.....
Jeff Boschee? John Godfread? Sorry to say but Rich doesn't stand a chance when the likes of Kansas and Utah are knocking on your door. To even think that UND had a shot at these kids is absurd.
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So I read the article about Jeff breaking the NCAA records in the GF Herald today. Maybe I am reading this wrong but help me out here.
The NCAA confirmed that Jeff broke two D-2 records.........
Career Points (326) - David Purnell, NW Missouri State, 1996-99
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Career Field Goals (64) - Mike Wood, SW Missouri State, 1974-77
But then I read he also broke Cameron Peterka career UND marks of...
Career Points (347)
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Career Field Goals (65)
Now I am not a math genius by any step of the imagination but shouldn't those NCAA records have belonged to Cameron in 2001?
The NCAA.........proving that Native American Mascots is wrong, and math is even "wronger"
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Mr. Electricity? Pick it up Dan.
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Congrats Jeff Glas!!
UND's All Time Scoring Leader!!
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Anybody have dataflix up yet?
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But just because you want to be able to go to a restaurant and not have people smoking, shouldn't mean that the owner of the restaurant be forced by law to not allow smoking. A majority of people don't want smoking in restaurants. If this same majority of people would act on this belief and refuse to go to restaurants that allow it, the restaurants will be forced to not allow smoking or go out of business. But people are lazy and want laws for everything they don't like without themselves having to do anything.
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I don't understand how trying to protect my health is being lazy. Isn't it just as lazy when smokers don't want to do something as simple as go outside to smoke?
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Like I was telling a friend today.....what's to stop the NCAA from banning teams from post season every couple of years? Say they give these schools an exemption this year, and then decide to ban them next year.
A favorable court ruling would stop that from happening and it would mean a lot more.
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Changing the name would also allow the school to host the playoffs and not have negative PR.
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Non-smokers have the right to breath smoke-free air, and I have the right to smoke. What I think is stupid is the argument that non-smokers shouldn't be forced to breath smokey air. That is why places like the Italian Moon, Dagwoods, and Suite 49 were already smoke free. Non-smokers had options. An all smoking ban would give me absolutely no options as a smoker.
I used to go to Bonzers usually twice a week. I haven't been there since the smoking ban. We have all started going to whitey's where we can smoke. I am not claiming smoking is good for your health, but we are taking away one groups rights just to please a few. Kinda sounds like the NCAA.
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You smoking in a room of people puts everyone's health at risk. Me not smoking in a room of people puts no one at risk. See the difference.
Is it too much to ask smokers to go outside?
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I disagree with you. I took someone to court and a lot of good came out of it, things that will affect people's lives. Going to court isn't always a bad thing.
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I should've further explained my statement. Sometimes, yes, court is the only way to go and good will come from it. My statements were more geared towards a possible UND v. NCAA lawsuit.
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Lol, I was just about to say that I was going to seperate those two.
"Don't make me stop this car!"
I say we fight the NCAA in court. Bring it on.
The only thing that I have heard is that the Spirit Lake Nation is going to decide their stance only after they meet with UND.
Hopefully, all goes well and they open a door to a relationship.
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I think the best thing to come out of this whole situation is that UND and Native American's can come to some sort of agreement here and make peace. There is no good that comes from people taking sides and battling it out in courts, etc.
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So if the tribes prove that they, as a whole, do not want UND to use the name you want UND to still fight to use it. That would be respecting, or not respecting wouldn't it?
i.e. You ask me to remove part of a post about you. Either I respect that and do it, or I don't respect that and leave it on there.
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I do not think that a court battle is something that either side wants. At first I was all for everything that UND could do to save it but certain posts from Mafia and ESPN have made me reconsider my stance. I think something gets lost in this argument and that is respecting peoples rights and wishes. Let me say that I still back the nickname but if the tribes vote to not back the nickname, then it might be time to rethink things.
Yes, that is right. ESPNInsider & Mafia. You have made me see the light on this one. I agree with you. If UND loses the support of the tribes as shown by a vote, then you can't really say that it is an honor anymore. I personally thought that UND was trying to honor the Native Americans when they selected the name, and I still think they are, but if the people who are being honored don't see it that way, which I don't think will happen, then you have to rethink your stance.
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No, you never said they shouldn't respect the tribes, but you did bash my post saying that they should. That is what I've been saying the whole time. That IF the tribes show that their people don't want it, then UND should not fight it. So do you agree with me then? Or do you disagree. You are the one spinning, spinning on what you think!
If you would re-read my first post you would realize that you were bashing it for the wrong reasons. Reasons I think you probably agree with. Then again, I'm not sure where you'll stand tomorrow
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I bashed your first post because you said that UND should give up if the tribes don't want the nickname. That is what I disagreed with. Nothing about respecting Native Americans. Just because you disagree with them on the nickname issue doesn't mean you don't respect them.
My opinion on this has never changed, the more I thought about it the more I wanted UND to keep on truckin on. Yes, I was more in the middle when the ruling came out but the more I thought about it, the more I backed a fight against the NCAA ruling. I was not on one side and then the other. You can say that my opinion has changed from day to day but it has not.
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Again, while it may not be a popular opinion, I have to say that people aren't being forced to work there. If the employer can't get anyone to work for him, he'd have to change how he operates his business. Again, a case where overwhelming demand would be the cause and effect; all without outside intervention.
Not trying to be pig-headed or argumentative, just stating my personal opinion.
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I can respect your opinion and I see where you are coming from but it always comes back to a health concern. Not everyone that works and frequents a bar smokes. You are right, people do not have to go in or work there but that would get very old going to the same place every time you go out simply because it is the only smokeless place in town.
I do not think it is that tough for people who do smoke to go outside to light up. This way they still get to smoke and they do not risk the health of those that work there and frequent there.
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I'm not saying they are taking the tribes to court. I'm saying that if the tribes do not want UND to use the name, as a whole, that UND should not fight the issue anymore. Obviously you feel they should not respect the tribes even if they show that a majority of their people do not want UND to use the name. I think that is classless.
And obviously it does involve the tribes. As was shown with the removal of FSU and Utah from the list. Why were they removed? BECAUSE THE TRIBES ARE NOT AGAINST THE USE OF THE NAME Is that involvment enough for you?
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I never said they should not respect the tribes. Here you go taking my words and spinning them again.
Also, I did state that the tribes do play a role in this, like the FSU case. All I mean is that the direct fight is between the NCAA and the 15 Universities still on that list. If you would take one more minute to comprehend what I am saying you would understand that.
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So let me get this straight. If the tribes come out and say that they, as a whole, do not want UND to use the name, you want UND to fight the decision in court?
That is what my original post was that you bashed, so I'm assuming that's what you feel.
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The issue at hand does not directly involve the tribes. The issue is between the NCAA and UND. Yes, the Native Americans do play a role in that fight but UND is not taking them head on, it is the NCAA they are fighting. If the tribes file lawsuits against the University then your argument would hold water. Just because the tribes come out against UND's nickname doesn't mean UND should stop the fight against the NCAA. So to answer your question, yes. There are ways of doing this without being disrespectful and classless.
And I will go ahead and call your bluff on never going to another UND game again. I would be willing to put money on that.
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Personally, if smoking bothers people that much, don't go in the establishment; then you are forcing the owner to change to get your business. I think that if the demand was really there, it would take care of itself without government meddling. There's lots of talk about non-smokers' rights, but we have to remember something... It isn't our right to enter a privately owned business, it is a privelege extended by the owner. It's not ours, it's theirs.
What's next, mandating whom business owners shouldn't and should hire? Oh... wait a minute......
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Yes but it is not only an issue with the customers. People who work there have to breathe in the air as well. This creates health hazards for both the employee and the customer. It is a person's right to smoke, but they don't have to risk the health of those who do not smoke.
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Sorry, but how do this:
"I feel they should fight this in the courts because the "Fighting Sioux" nickname has been the face of UND Athletics since the 1930's. I grew up following the Fighting Sioux and it would not be the same if the sports teams played under a different name"
and this:
"Afterall, it is just a name. It does not change the tradition, history, and pride of its alumni and student athletes."
say the same thing? They are the exact opposite. I didn't post the time and date? You've totally switched sides of the argument. Not sure why a date is needed. You can continue to try to squirm your way out of it and that's fine. I'm done with that argument, as it's obvious that you don't know what side you're on.
The reason I'm pointing this out is because you seem to switch sides just for the point of arguing. I could care less if people poke holes in my point. I don't want UND to fight the tribes, like Mafia said. If you do that's your right. It's also your right to fly a confederate flag and join the KKK. Do so if you please. If UND fights the tribes in court then I will never go to a game again and will never donate a dime to the school, as that would be pure classless. You may disagree and say that they should. That's fine, but please don't switch sides of the argument just to disagree with me.
I think Mafia is right. You are saying they should fight the NCAA. I'm saying they should NOT fight the tribes. So you probably shouldn't have blasted my original post.
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This is the last time I am going to explain this to you. The quote about it only being a name and it doesn't change the history is NOT arguing my point that UND should fight the name change. All I am saying with that is if it comes down to where UND has to change the name it wouldn't take away what UND has done as an institution or as an athletic department. They are two separate things! Read the entire post and you will see I state that I do not want to see the name change. You need to take a couple minutes and actually read the entire post and not just look for sentences you can exert to take my words and spin them. I am not wavering on this issue. I never once said UND should change the name without a fight. I am not arguing with you on this simply for the sake of arguing. I see what you are saying and I do understand where you are coming from. I simply do not agree that UND should stop there. I think there are ways of fighting the nickname issue without being "classless" as you say.
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Has anyone heard or know firsthand how the GF Smoking Ban is going? What places are and are not smokeless?
Do you feel like this is a good idea for Grand Forks?
My personal feelings are that you need to have a smoking ban but have it across the board. All public restaraunts and bars or none at all. I don't like this "if you have 60% of your business from food" rule. All or nothing I think. About a year ago I visited Lincoln, NE and all of their bars have gone smokeless, across the board. It was very nice not smelling like smoke when you walked out of there.
What are your takes?
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i think i spelt replay but when is the ncaa going to answer about the name (i think i spelt answer wrong too) if someone has sayed something or there been posts about it sorry im to lazy to look
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sayed? You even spelled Sioux wrong in your name.
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2005-06 men's basketball
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