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So how many other schools should reevaluate their relationships with the venues they compete in? Michigan hockey- Considered to be the "premier" college hockey team, their last championship was in 1998. Two years before UND's last one. Maybe it is time to move out of Yost Arena for them. Wisconsin hockey- Before their championship in 2006 they hadn't won since 1990. That is 16 years. And I am sure that before they finally won that one their fans were just tearing down the doors to get out of the Kohl Center. Minnesota hockey- Before their back to back championships in '02 and '03 they had gone since 1979 without one. That is 23 years between championships. How many of their fans are ready to just shut the doors on Mariucci Arena? And to make it even more understandable to you I will go to the end all, be all sport of college basketball (which by the way is ruled by the NDSU Bison as evidenced by you and the Flood coverage in 2008) Kentucky basketball- Did not even make the Final Four in the 2000's, which was the first decade since the start of the tournament that has happened. They also haven't won a national title since 1998. When are they gonna get rid of Rupp Arena? UCLA basketball- The most national championships in the sport at 11. They haven't won since 1995. I don't think they are going to leave Pauley Pavillion anytime soon either So to get to my point, I think it has very little to do with the type of facility in order to WIN championships, that I believe takes a little bit of luck and good play at the right time of the season. But I do think that if the UND hockey team did move out of REA it would hurt their chances in recruiting the top level players who help a team get to winning championships. Facilities are an important factor in any recruits decision on the school they are attending both positive and negative. So I think that if the team moved back to the old REA or to any other venue in the city it would have a very negative effect on the team. I am almost positive that the coaches know this as well and would balk at any attempt by the UND athletic dept. to force them out of the arena.

Sorry that I posted an almost similar reply to what you had, I looked at a few more hosting sites and was making my reply when you posted yours.

No you don't have to be a huge market to host but to give you a few numbers, even though you didn't respond to them the last time I posted those: Dayton, OH: City - 166,000 Metro area - 848,000 Hosted in 2009 and 2006 Boise, ID: City - 202,000 Metro area - 585,000 Hosted in 2009 and 2005 Spokane, WA: City - 205,000 Metro area - 600,000 Hosted in 2010 and 2007 Omaha, NE: City - 454,000 Metro area - 849,000 Hosted in 2008 Little Rock, AR: City - 191,000 Metro area - 685,000 Hosted in 2008 Buffalo, NY: City - 270,000 Metro area - 1.25 Million Hosted in 2007 Lexington, KY: City - 296,000 Metro area - 453,000 Hosted in 2007 Worcester, MA: City - 182,000 Metro area - Not listed but is only 40 Miles from Boston Hosted in 2005 So from the past five years the absolute smallest city was Dayton at 166k and the smallest metro area (I think a better measure) was Lexington, KY at 453,000 but there are a few rabid college basketball fans in that area to possibly boost attendance (U of Kentucky is located there) Fargo: City - 95,000 Metro area - 200,000 Grand Forks: City - 51,000 Metro area - 97,000 So if Fargo hosted a site it would be the smallest city and metro area by half the size compared to any city in the last 5 years. Grand Forks would be the smallest city by almost three times as many and the metro area would be almost 4.5 times smaller than any host. I would highly doubt that the NCAA would put one of it's premier events at a place that is considered as remote and small as either of those possible ND cities.

I have had enough of hearing about the greatness of the Summit League from you and how much financial support UND would get from being in the conference. I did some research on the NCAA website and found some interesting figures for you to think about. For one, the "multi-million dollar hit" that UND is supposed to take, I assume that this comes from the amazingly large amount of money that the Summit league makes each year from the NCAA. Well for the most recently reported budget from the NCAA, the Summit league was paid a little over $4.4 million. As a side note this is the second lowest amount that is paid to any conference listed in the NCAA report, with only the Atlantic Sun receiving less ($3.2 Mil). This amount of money is to be dispersed to all teams in the conference. So for the 12 team league this amounts to a little under $367,000. So it would only take UND 6 years to reach your "multi-million dollar payout." But wait, there is a problem with that amount because even Independent teams receive payouts from the NCAA. Granted it is less than what is given to the conferences but these schools do still receive support from the NCAA. The largest difference is the amount received by the Independent schools is in the amount of the basketball tournament payout (which you seem to think is a LOT more than is received by the conference). So let's take a look at that. In the report I used they even include the amount that is paid to each conference. The amount paid out is based on the number of "shares" that a conference receives. These shares are based on the number of games that conference teams participate in. The shares do not include an extra share for the play-in game or the championship game if I understand the process completely. The amount is paid out over the past 6 years. And each year one share approximately equals $222,000. Based on this amount the projected distribution will equal $1.3 million and for the last year the actual distributed was $1.2 million. I believe the difference comes from changes in the amount that each share is worth each year. So to break down each school's share of that amount, of which I am going to use the actual payout, this results in each school receiving $103,000 each year. But also what I have read about other conferences is that the team(s) that won the conference the share receives a larger amount, as much as 25%. So if you take that into account then we have to adjust the amount paid and in this situation, each school that has not participated in the basketball tournament would receive about $84,000 ($14,046 per school per year) and about $122,000 if a team went to the tournament once. The $122K amount is based on the team receiving $51,505 for the one year they made the tournament and then the $14K amount for the other 5 years. In this scenario the most that a team in the Summit could receive would be $309,000. And all it would take would be winning the conference tournament 6 years in a row. Of course you also have to remember that most conferences won't share any money with a school that they feel doesn't deserve it. Such as a team that is not eligible to make the NCAA tournament like UND currently is unable to participate in until the 2012-2013 season. And so in either case I make the assertion that by not joining the Summit league, UND is really only missing out on about $120,000-150,000 each year. And I truly feel that this would only be a loss for 2 or 3 seasons when there is expected to be a major shakeup in all of the conferences across the country and openings would become available to many different schools. And no, I don't think it would be worth UND to give up the name for what may only amount to $750,000 extra to the athletic program assuming the absolute best case scenario exists for UND. And I would be willing to bet that the total amount of money lost by the university would total a little more than that $750K amount. This last paragraph only has been complete speculation on my part with the previous ones based on the facts and figures I have available to me. And in case you don't want to believe my calculations, all of the information I used can be downloaded from the NCAA website at the NCAA Budget and Finances website. I used the first two links under the Revenue Distribution heading.