Goldfinger
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26 minutes ago, BigGame said:
No, this is huge deal for NDSU, Carson Wentz, and North Dakota in general but I started this with a question just wanting testing results. You could probably find a story about what Carson ate for dinner at this point because if he farts it ends up published somewhere. I was just trying to find out if Will participated and what how his numbers compared to the Minnesota pro day. That being said I would really like to see all the participants numbers out of interest. Why does everything, even a little joke turn into a pissing contest?
The WDAY coverage showed him doing the catching drills. I didn't see him doing the 40, and might suspect he is sitting on his numbers from the UM pro day, at least for the 40.
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He is better off saying a collection of what everyone is pretty much thinking, who cares if its true or not, at least it would be more acceptable then the reasons he has been giving: "We had some tough decisions but ultimately it came down to UNH getting in because their AD is on the committee, EIU got selected because the chair of the committee is an OVC school and wanted a second school and WIU, because well, we thought it would be a concession because of how we are going to regionalize the hell out of this bracket and the MVFC is going to be furious. Nevermind Sam Houston's SOS, they did well a few years ago, they are still living off that. Sorry about that Towson, UNH's AD threw you under the bus for his own team. Oh and UND, you had poor representation because no one cares what Idaho State's AD says and really, we thought you were going to lose to Cal Poly so we had already moved on before your game started."
FWIW, if they put in UND over WIU, UND is paired with SDSU and routed through Fargo. EIU/UNI now goes through Illinois State, and Dayton flies to Montana and the winner (Montana) heads to PSU.
From a regionalization standpoint, this would create more bus trips/possible bus trips then they ended up with.
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SDSU was playing for a seed and a first round bye. They had plenty to play for.
*sorry, I'm really struggling with your quote functions on here.
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what year was it?
2013. SHSU went 8-4, but two wins were non-D1 at the time due to transitional teams so they only had 6 D1 wins. That year YSU was left out with 8 D1 wins.
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They won the conference for the auto.
Sorry, but you're wrong there.
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So the criteria is beat 3 playoff teams? So 3-8 would be good enough? Or would the 8 have to be "good losses" (whatever that is).
The claim had long been "7 wins" to be considered. That changed somehow this year. That's the explanation I think many are seeking.
"The won-lost record of a team will be scrutinized to determine a team’s strength of schedule; however, fewer than six Division I wins may place a team in jeopardy of not being selected;"
From the Pre-championship manual
http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2015-16_DIFCS_PreChamps_20150924.pdf
SHSU got in with only 6 D1 wins a couple of years ago. WIU could be considered and when you factor in their 3 wins against playoff teams their resume looks solid.
It sucks being the last one out, personally I think you have a case over EIU and UNH looks like a coin flip, but neither are solid arguments.
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I rather be a truck stop condom than two naked gays guys on the beach doing you know what ......
What might you call those two fellows if they preferred not to use lube?
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I say forget NDSU let them play whoever and schedule someone else...why should UND have to play all their games on the road?
I agree. Let it die. It's almost dead.
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Which is at least around $50K less than NDSU has been paying, of course he'd take a home game at a discount price for himself.
Faison has never taken a one-time guarantee away game unless it has been against an FBS school and has a payday much larger than NDSU is able to offer.
Not sure why they don't agree to a deal for 2015/2019. NDSU gets their 6th home game in 2015 (no FBS though) and travel to UND in a 12 game season so that it doesn't interfere with their "scheduling template", models very similarly what they did with Weber this year except they get the home game first. Buyout of $500K minimum.
I'll agree 150k is too low. 190k guarantee, IMO, would be a fair number. UND has less travel than other teams, but is certainly a better opponent than what NDSU currently can get for one-time games.
I still don't see the urgency to get an away game for 2019 on the schedule. I could agree with a 2-4-1. 2015 @NDSU, 2018 @NDSU, 2019 @UND.
If either one of these were offered by BF and GT rejected them. I could buy into "GT won't play UND." Till then, GT is just a businessman looking out for NDSU's best interests.
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2017 if UND plays at NDSU would leave UND 4...FOUR home games. What's wrong with playing at UND in 2019? I know we aren't Weber State but we are an FCS counter.
Why did he then change his own offer and make it a one game offer, basically putting that offer in rear-view? I will tell you why he first tried the 2015-2017 (both at NDSU) offer. Because UND absolutely cannot do that in 2017, they would only have four home games and start the season with Utah, USD and NDSU. Right.
2015 One-game deal is the only one that can work right now.
With the uncertainty of college football I don't see an urgency to get an away game on the schedule for 2019. When it gets closer I could see a home and home for 2018 and 2019 working out. But I know most of you would like to see UND get their schedule filled up through those years in which that may not be an option in the future.
I'd be shocked if GT wouldn't agree to a one-game contract for 2015 for more than the original guarantee. IMO, if BF offered a one time game in Fargo for 150k guarantee it'd get done. Could be wrong.
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Because Taylor knows UND wouldn't go for a 2-0 game without a return game in GF. Faison offered a return game in GF for 2018-2020 (2019 is a 12 game year) and Taylor didn't accept. Taylor will never play UND as long as he is there.
Why? Because UND couldn't possibly afford to give up a half sold home game and an expensive bus trip for a measly six figure plus payday?
A home and home does not work for NDSU. If nothing less than that works for UND. Fine, fill up your schedule till 2030. Maybe by then you'll have a playoff berth.
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1. There's the handshake agreement, and renege by Taylor; again, the point stands: poor form in North Dakota.
2. No, it wasn't and isn't ideal for NDSU ... so why do it? Answer: It was a convenient 'out' for Taylor to fill his schedule with something other than UND, 'economic circumstances' be damned.
Taylor would be better served to just stand up, man up, and say he'll never schedule UND under his watch. Right now he's just pussyfooting around.
Why would Taylor send an offer for a two game series in Fargo that would be financially lucrative for both institutions if he'll never schedule UND?
Especially considering the fact that UND potentially stands to gain more than NDSU by playing the game.
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Not much more to say in this thread as that's still not faced retort or refute.
Folks would do well to save their breath (keystrokes?) and re-read the last sentence of that.
1. Dates and locations were agreed upon, however details were never worked out and a contract never got signed for reasons we don't know. Now after 3 NDSU championships UND wants the same deal that was discussed 3 years ago. The business climate of NDSU football has dramatically changed since those discussions took place. Try getting season tickets. Unless you've got a dozen wells pumping around Parshall, good luck.
2. Weber State wasn't an ideal deal for NDSU. A twelve game season, dates that worked out, combined with the home and home Weber State did when NDSU was an FCS nobody got that deal done. At the moment, NDSU has a lot of motivation to get home games on their schedule. Sometimes a match can't be found and NDSU may end up doing a home and home. Ideally if a home and home series is signed hopefully it's a perennial playoff team. Just because a deal with Weber State was worked out doesn't mean UND is entitled to the same deal.
GT offered a 2 game series both games in Fargo for a 175k to 195k guarantee. UND averaged 8500 fans last season. Add in the expense say of 150k to bring in an opponent, I'd be shocked if UND nets more than 100k for an OOC game.
GT offered a lucrative deal for both institutions.
UND has more to gain by renewing the rivalry.
IMO, BF doesn't want the rivalry.
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