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17 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:
Wait, you think adding ASU and UCONN is going to improve the conference?
Overall, no. What it does is add more teams. It allows the top programs like Minnesota and Michigan to record extra wins, similar to CC and Western Michigan in the NCHC, to bump them up and will help make for more 'average' teams, rather than a clear cut top 3 and a bottom 3.
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Rick Pizzo had a few interesting tweets with people yesterday...
By the looks of it the B1G is 100% adding affiliate members and he said "very soon". I'm going to go out a limb and say ASU is announced to the B1G whenever they're ready to announce it since they're supposed to make their announcement soon. From there I'd look at UCONN, like I said before.
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38 minutes ago, SiouxFanatic said:
GFG, you need to quit being a level-headed Minnesota fan. Where's Mariucci or whatever username he's using now to come defend Minnesota's honor in a irrational/incoherent manner!?
I always try and look at things for how they really are. I think the B1G will be just fine whenever they add 2 more teams. They won't be the deepest conference but I'd bet money that they'll get 2-3 at-large bids in the NCAA tournament every year with an 8 team conference. One of those at-large bids can certainly turn into the auto-bid if they win the tournament, but I think the conference will be sitting fine.
Judging by some of Rick Pizzo's tweets today I'd expect the B1G announces ASU as an affiliate member whenever they're ready to make the announcement ("very soon") and then they'll announce someone else. So I'm going to say the B1G is an 8 team conference for the 2017-2018 conference. Just one more year of this 6 team crap
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20 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
20.9.9.3 Football-Attendance Requirements. [FBS] Once every two years on a rolling basis, the institution shall average at least 15,000 in actual or paid attendance for all home football games.
Key words above are "paid attendance". Why?
20.9.9.3.1.2 Paid Attendance. [FBS] For purposes of computing paid attendance figures, tickets must be sold for at least one-third of the highest regular established ticket price as established prior to the season, regardless of whether they are used for admission.
Thus was the birth of the "Eastern Michigan Solution": EMU bought enough tickets at 1/3 price to ensure they met the 15k rule every other year. What money did they do that with? Why, money that was earmarked for football already. They just "laundered" it one extra step. Instead of "donation -> FB" it became "donation -> buy tickets -> football".
And there you have it
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14 minutes ago, UND-RedSox fan said:
Ohio State seems to be their kryptonite this year. Michigan hasn't held them to fewer than 5 goals in a game yet. Ohio State also stole a game from BC, granted they were missing White.
I agree it is very unlikely that either Wisconsin or Michigan State win the Big 10 but it is more likely than a bottom team taking the NCHC tournament. And my response was to someone saying I was using a tired cliche of anyone can beat anyone in a conference. Michigan and Minnesota have both shown they are capable of losing to anyone.
I agree, but not necessarily because of the lack of strength of the conference. I agree because the B1G is a one weekend, single elimination tournament. In comparison, it's very hard for the bottom NCHC teams because they have to win the first round best of 3, which Wisconsin, MSU and OSU would all have trouble accomplishing if the B1G had the same format. There's a reason the top 3 B1G teams are so far separated from the bottom 3 in the conference standings. Whenever they add 2 teams they'll have the same format.
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6 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:
The NCAA has been a stickler for rules when a team is in the FBS transition. After it reaches that, not so much.
UND could expand Memorial to 20k cheaply, and play late season games in the Alerus. That would be the El cheapo route. Remember that an FBS transition school doesn't have to have an average of 15k attendees, just has to average 15k tickets sold at 1/3 the price. Another way could be play a home against the Gophers in Vikings Stadium and expand Memorial to 15k.
That could certainly help clear them for one of the 2 transition years. Problem is that I don't think Minnesota can play them if they're not fully FBS yet.
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3 minutes ago, darell1976 said:
I want you to answer this: I know Fullerton wants half of the BSC to move up, the Montana's are fine, however UND doesn't have the facility to host a minimum of 15,000 people like the FBS rule says. Now if Eastern Michigan can average 3400 a year and get away with it, would in the "rule changes" the NCAA get rid of that 15k attendance rule? The timelines for the new FBS conferences, almost coincides with the ending of the lease at the Alerus. Maybe a big donor, or a fundraiser will get Memorial up to 20k capacity if they don't get rid of the rule.
The facilities plan calls for a 25,000 seat retractable roof stadium right where Memorial is right now. The plan was to build that when the Alerus wasn't big enough for UND football which they supposedly were thinking would be around 2025-2030ish. If they have the opportunity to move up to FBS they might be able to find a big donor willing to help move the project up.
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Just now, Stack said:
You cannot make the NCAA tournament using the Pairwise rankings if you are under .500. However if you win the league tournament you are in no matter what your record is.
Alright that must be what it was! Whoever explained it must have misunderstood the rule and thought it included autobids. I remember bringing up the Wisconsin thing and they told me that they couldn't because of that rule. It appears they were wrong
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2 hours ago, UND-RedSox fan said:
BS. It is realistic that Wisconsin could win the big ten. CC and WMU will not win the NCHC. Penn State only has a good record because they play all of their games against the two worst conferences. Ohio State is probably better than them. Minnesota split with Michigan this year.
And you bring up Minnesota's defense and then act like Michigan is undoubtedly the best team in the Big 10. Minnesota actually has the best defense in the Big 10. Michigan has a terrible defense with a bad goalie. Wisconsin fans describe their defense as the worst group of defensemen that Wisconsin has ever had. Ohio State has given up 5 or more goals 10 times this year.
Minnesota is going to win the Big 10 regular season for a reason. That reason may be that they are the best team in a group of bad teams, but it is still a reason.
Wisconsin hasn't won 3 games in a row all year, so winning 3 games in the B1G tournament when they've only won 2 conference games all year would be pretty impressive for them. Penn State is solidly the 3rd best team in the B1G this year. They're not quite as good as Minnesota or Michigan, but they're very well coached and are capable of beating anyone on a given day. They're without a doubt better than Wisconsin, MSU and OSU. Their series with Michigan this weekend will be interesting because since they joined the B1G they've kind of been Michigans kryptonite.
29 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:I'm not saying this for of a lack of liking them, obviously there's no shortage of that, but, I don't see a lot of standout talent on Minny. Of course their schedule is terrible, but outside of Michigan, who has Minny beaten that's any good? Notre Dame? Minny's is pretty awful, too.
Depth? Minnesota has an average-to-above average top 6 and their bottom is bad. Zac Lynch and Greg Gibson for RMU have 49 and 47 points respectively with Gibson second in the country in goals with 28. Before you say "but schedule" .... remember.... Big 10 is really bad, too. Possibly the second worst conference in the country.
Take away the program name and you'd have a tough time saying RMU isn't the better team. What makes Minny better? Their RPI, record, stats reflect much differently.
Why are we giving Minny so much respect? I get the fact they are a huge rival and are a traditional power, but has anyone watch this team this year? They are not very good. They deserve nothing but scorn and mocking, this year.
They still have the talent to beat anyone in the country on a given night, and that's all it takes in the NCAA tournament. If you think RMU is better than Minnesota you're delusional.
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3 hours ago, UND-RedSox fan said:
Michigan was just swept by a bad Ohio State. Penn State just lost to an absolutely awful Wisconsin team (I know we lost to them, but they are awful). All of the teams in the Big 10 suck and any of them can win their conference tournament.
I thought I saw that a team cannot play in the NCAA tournament with a sub .500 record even if they win their conference tournament. Can anyone confirm this for me? I swear somebody even showed me the rule but I can't remember if it was here, GPL or Reddit and I can't find it anywhere
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5 hours ago, Goon said:
Ha, the same Michigan team that was swept by tOSU?
That Michigan team also didn't lose a game to Wisconsin this year. It's a one and done situation, a lot can happen.
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2 hours ago, dakota said:
Don't know if SiouxVolley's scenario will actually happen (even though the pieces seem to be falling into place) but it is sure entertaining to watch the Bison trolls panic as the story unfolds.
It's definitely not a guarantee that it happens, but it's undeniable that a lot of the pieces that are required for it to happen are falling into place. Do you even need those teams together for 'x' amount of years if you keep it under the umbrella of the BSC? Because I was under the impression his comments made it sound like you need those teams together that long if you're starting a new FBS conference just because of the basketball bid, but if you're creating the FBS conference under the umbrella of an existing conference the teams didn't need to be together 'x' amount of years because they already have the bball NCAA tourney autobid with the BSC. I'd appreciate if someone can clarify that one a bit for me.
The Idaho AD's comments made it seem like it was entirely possible to make it happen, but at the same time he wasn't guaranteeing anything like that would happen. IMO, I think it will all depend on what happens with Idaho in the wave of realignments that will occur after UCONN and Cincy are announced to the Big XII. If they're able to find a permanent home after that wave of realignment the BSC schools that want to move up will probably stay put for now, but if it comes down to it and the BSC is Idaho's only option I bet they'll drop down to FCS and work hard on trying to make the FBS transition for the BSC.
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5 hours ago, MafiaMan said:
True, true. But with regards to the BTHC, it's a take on the old Ole and Sven joke:
"Commissioner, after another one-team-only in the NCAA tournament is promptly smacked out of the field of 16 after only one game, would you STILL say that the B10 is in the top half of hockey conferences in the country?"
"Well, no, but we're in the half that makes the top half possible!"
Ole and Sven jokes...my mom used to be a huge fan of those
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1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:
Count those Natty's in St. Paul...region of death
That's arguably the top 4 most storied programs in college hockey history in one regional.
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5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
You're bragging about winning "best hair" at the bald man's convention?
Nah, it was more of a "We have an average team but still won the conference because the rest of the teams are so bad" kind of bragging...hence the shaking my head part at the end of it
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5 hours ago, MafiaMan said:
"Welcome to the SEC Network and thanks for joining us this afternoon for some college football! We've got a real treat dor you today as we bring you Kentucky and Vanderbilt, two of the top forty three teams in the country..."
The funny thing is they actually do stuff like this
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6 hours ago, MafiaMan said:
All 6 teams in the top 43 of the PWR? That's incredible!
In fairness, the NCHC can't say all of their teams are above 43
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22 hours ago, siouxkid12 said:
Never would be a full membership.
Agreed. There's no way under current circumstances that it would ever happen. As much as sports do rule much of this stuff, it's apparent that the B1G is the one P5 conference that truly does try and maintain academic integrity.
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1 hour ago, SiouxFanatic said:
Michigan's lack of any sort of resemblance of having defense is beginning to really haunt them. Getting swept by tOSU? U-g-l-y.
They're a weird team. Sometimes they can play good defense and have good offense, sometimes they can play with bad defense and good offense and other times they can even have no defense or offense. They're just a weird and inconsistent team. At full potential they can win the NCAA tournament for sure. But they can also lose to just about anyone on a given day. That'll be the death of them, IMO.
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19 hours ago, Cratter said:
How bad is the Big Ten Hockey Conference when the most likely regular season champion, Minnesota, won't make the tournament unless they win its autobid. That's Atlantic Hockey type stuff.
They really need more teams. It's so hard to have a 'deep conference' with 6 teams. Every team in the conference is in the top 43 in the PWR, so they're not as bad on the back end as some of the other conferences bad teams but they don't have any other teams to be bottom/middle level for the conference. It makes it difficult. Minnesota was a couple of early season collapses in non-conference games from basically being locked into the NCAA's. They've lost, I believe, 4 games where the opponent ties it up with an extra attacker. Mankato even scored 2 empty net goals in one game to tie and then won in OT.
Stuff like that happens when you have 9 freshman and no seniors playing. As a fan it sucks, but it really shouldn't be unexpected to have mistakes that can cost you games when the team is so young. Minnesota made a lot of them early in the season and unfortunately for them all of their non-conference games are at the beginning of the season.
18 hours ago, MafiaMan said:3 games over .500...and staring a B10 champions banner-raising next fall right in the eyes!
Even when we're young and crappy we win the B1G...smh.
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1 hour ago, cberkas said:
The B1G deputy commissioner on the B1G proposal.
Why does the B1G sound like they are the ambassadors for college hockey when they have admitted not knowing anything about college hockey.
This sounds utterly false, I have never heard this was going on at any school.
This has Lucia written all over it. But there are 18 and 19 year olds playing in the NHL? How can that be?
Yet college hockey is thriving, when the B1G is claiming it's not. Last 4 National Champions were first time champions which is showing the non-traditional powerhouses that they can win a National Title.
I wouldn't be surprised if the B1G told the NCAA that they should have an auto bid to the Frozen Four, (like the College Football Playoff) because they are a Power 5 school and everyone else should have to play for the last 3 spots. It may sound dumb but we all know the B1G wants all the benefits and to hinder everyone else.
Just out of curiosity, how does this benefit the B1G more than the NCHC?
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Mclaughlin for Grand Rapids was suspended for the state tournament for drinking...I was okay with that because what kind of idiot goes drinking before a state tournament? Until info came out that it was because a Duluth East player is the one who got him suspended because he sent in a photo from 9 months ago that he got from him on Snapchat after his team lost and didn't get to go to state this year.
I know the kid shouldn't be drinking, but how much of a sore loser/prick do you have to be to do that? I'll never be able to cheer for Duluth East again just because of one kid doing something so childish. Puts them below Edina/EP in my book.
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11 hours ago, jdub27 said:
I agree to a point but the you're examples are quite a bit different than Minnesota/Wisconsin/Michigan/Michigan State in a whole lot of ways. The money, facilities and now FCOA are there even when the fan support is down plus they still carry the B1G clout that matters to people regardless of the reality on how the teams or conference are actually doing. The fact a couple of the B1G have fallen so far and aren't even competitive is pretty mind-blowing.
The biggest difference to me is that they're large, well known schools in arguably the 2 biggest hockey states in America (and Wisconsin sandwiched in the middle) with significant hockey history. With the big time school name in states like that I think it's a lot harder to fall into the abyss like some of the smaller schools have managed to do. If you think of what you would consider the top, most consistent programs of all time it's most of the 'big' schools + UND and Denver. And to be honest, I would basically consider UND a 'big' school in the college hockey world with their facilities.
It's a lot more difficult for the smaller teams to sustain that success because they don't have the facilities to recruit as well or the coach that brought them the success eventually leaves. Quinnipiac will probably be the next program to fall from the heavens.
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7 hours ago, Fetch said:
NYC just does not appeal to me & I love visiting big cities grew up in Kansas City Mo & several cities in & around LosAngles Calif
Only thing out that way that I'd like to see is Niagra Falls
I've been there a few times. My biggest piece of advice if you ever go is to make sure you go to the Canadian side at Niagara Falls. It's a better view and MUCH, MUCH more clean and tourist friendly. So many restaurants and fun activity places to go to on that side. The US side is a complete garbage dump compared to the Canadian side. I never knew that until my last visit a couple of years ago.
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2015-2016 College Hockey (non UND Hockey)
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I hope you're right because that's the only way they would probably consider opening up talk about a school like UND, but I don't think UCONN will turn them down. They're about to join the Big XII and want to be associated with big name schools.