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9 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:
It was SDSU last night.......wait until they play USD. USD is rated in top 25 nationally. USD beat NDSU last night 80-36.
It was also SDSU minus their top player, pre-season all league pick Myah Selland in what is really a re-building year for SDSU. SDSU and USD are nationally recognized women's programs.
UND will be fine, you have a young team. My guess is your women learned some pretty good lessons last night as they will when they play USD in Vermillion. Hopefully UND does not do what NDSU did, give up on Women's basketball.
SDSU and USD need UND to be good.
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2 hours ago, jdub27 said:
He also has MSU at #13 and but then made the comment that "UND needs a good win". Not sure how that doesn't qualify.
Also, per the "Bison Media Zone computations" (whatever those are), UND would be threatening to get a seed if they knock off Weber and would be the last one or two in the field if they lose.
Kolpach and Izzo like pumping UND in the hopes of getting more readers. No team will be seeing a seed with 3 losses. SDSU have losses to a top 20 Gophers and NDSU. We lose in the next three weeks we will not get a seed.
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On 11/3/2019 at 6:55 AM, homer said:
After watching UNI vs ISU yesterday, the teams after NDSU in the MVFC are overrated. ISU has no offense and this being the second time I have seen UNI they have athletes but aren’t any better than teams we have seen this year. Not sure how the committee sorts all this out but it shouldn’t be this team is in the MVFC so they are automatically in.
Just beat Weber!!
SDSU are overrated? A lot of FB knowledge went into that post.
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18 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:
If the Summit stayed mute: 0.0%.
With the Summit's statement, better than coin-flip.
Your comment makes no sense. To answer the question, 95% it gets approved, 5% it does not. The fact that they have a league invite already and strong finances means the NCAA will more then likely approve. They are also getting kicked out of their current conference, expect it to be approved.
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3 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
The Horizon League is moving it’s tournament to IUPUI starting next year.
So PUFW wants to go to Sioux Falls annually instead and doesn’t have an incentive to switch leagues according to bizzon and jack posters..
Detroit didn’t turn into an Arch Madness spot like St Louis.
You are really good at making things up, bravo. No one has ever said Ft. Wayne does not want the Horizon. What people (think media types) have said, the Horizon does not want Ft. Wayne.
As for UNC. Again you spew the false theory that they pull in a high percentage of students from California. No, they don't. CU does because CU is a rich kids party school and Boulder is considered cool. Take a look at the demographics of UNC students. Ninety percent are from Colorado, the majority from the Northern Front Range and Northern Denver metro. Many are low income or middle income. Over 20% Hispanic with a large number being first generation. You get the picture, not really party skiing types.
Does it mean UNC would choose a move to the Summit? No, but the school has an issue in the Big Sky. No rivals, little success, isolated from the rest of the league, things have not gone well at UNC since moving up. At one time there had been talk of them dropping FB and attempting to join DU in the Summit. The school has a money problem, the money issue is still there, dropping FB seems to not be on the table right now.
Now continue on. It is always fun seeing you attempt to justify one of your new theory's.
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3 hours ago, jdub27 said:
Denver only cares about Denver. They moved into a conference that didn't require them to change their sports offerings. They preferred to move to the West Coast Conference but that would have required them to add sports which would have bloated their athletic budget. The Summit didn't care and Denver wasn't sticking around the WAC with the band of misfits.
It is a safe bet that they didn't make a decision in late 2012 to join the Summit because they knew UND going to join it 6 years later and just 2 years after UND announced it was joining the Big Sky.
Nov, 2010 - UND accepted into Big Sky
July, 2012 - UND officially a Big Sky member????? - Denver realizes UND isn't going FBS in the Big Sky, but instead joining the Summit and will go FBS with that league
Nov, 2012 - Denver accepted in Summit
July, 2013 - Denver officially a Summit member
January, 2017 - UND accepted into Summit
July, 2018 - UND officially a Summit memberExactly. DU has an odd array of sports and the Summit was ok with them not adding any new sports. The WAC had just imploded and DU refused to be associated with the schools that were being brought in as replacements. The Summit was more then happy to provide them a landing spot. DU has always wanted into the WCC and will always want the WCC. DU going to the Summit had nothing to do with UND or Omaha. It was the best option for them at the time.
GCU not being brought into the Summit was 100% likely due to two items. The stigma of the for profit and travel. Yes, they are now "non-profit" but if you look at the structure, the for-profit is still in control.
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On 12/18/2018 at 3:24 PM, SiouxVolley said:
So the OC at Utah took the Sac St job. He was making $500 k at Utah, so Sac St had to sign him to a long term contract. A half million is unheard of for FCS, but if it’s later FBS that’s a good deal.
Going FBS with the WAC, Sac St will have problems on the field, so Troy Taylor will need long term assurances. If Sac St was staying FCS, they sure wouldn’t have given a seven year or eight year contract.
http://www.hornetsports.com/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/20181217l02pyo
That's a stretch, even for you. I have read through the past couple weeks of this thread today and I'm still confused as to what you are stating. Is the BSC going FBS? The WAC? The Summit? You are all over the place. I suggest taking Christmas off so you can come back with some new, fresh takes. Right now you seem lost.
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11 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
Most DII and DIii teams have bigger budgets than Savannah St. They are degrading to DII because they couldn’t afford DI to begin with.
SDSU just had the money to buy a game and pay for their travel. It’s rather sad and sorry actually.
What's sad about it? We need D1 home games. When you are a strong Men's mid-major getting teams to show up at your place is incredibly difficult. No one wants to play us at Frost. We get the BSC and WAC schools to come but no one else will. I suggest you head over to the Wisconsin board and rip them for playing SSU this week. After which head o over to the Iowa board for doing the same. Oh, and after the fact go rip Texas A&M and Georgia who both played SSU this year.
You really need to begin understanding how D1 basketball works.
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On 7/24/2018 at 8:56 AM, the green team said:
This irritates me. What was he doing while he was here? Obviously shopping himself to others, because he must not have had time to get us in the Aussie pool. I think the new head coach at USD has had previous connection with Australia players before too, but that the entire fact that USD gets an Aussie player as soon as our former assistant arrives in Vermillion, stinks in my opinion.
The Aussie pool at USD is through Todd Lee, their new head coach. He built the connections while at Grand Canyon.
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On 7/20/2018 at 10:20 AM, hawkgirl said:
Know if other Summit League teams are recruiting internationally?
There have been some. DU comes to mind. USD has had a number of really strong women from Australia and their new Men's coach is has a lot of connections to Australia and is bringing in some very good players from that country.
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14 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
http://www.thesummitleague.org/general/2017-18/releases/20180522mvqj3e
One item I don’t like from tSL relocation release is Kelby Krabbenhoft is prominently mentioned. As a former Augie athlete and now booster, he has major influence. Augie has until June 1st to get a Summit bid.
Kelby Krabbenhoft was not a former Augie athlete, he didn't even attend the school. He was an athlete at Moorhead State and later attended Mankato to get his Masters. The facts on him are really easy to find. Is he an Augie booster? Yes, he had a son attend the school to play FB. Of course he also had a son attend Wisconsin and a daughter attend Moorhead. More then an Augie booster, Krabbenhoft is a SIOUX FALLS booster, thus the feather in his cap getting the league offices to move closer to the geographical center of the league.
Where you and I can agree, I do not want Augie (not many SDSU fans want Augie) in the Summit. Maybe moving the league offices is a bone thrown to Kelby thus taking Augustana off the map. The Sioux Falls media have been pimping Augie to the Summit. The school administration, pummeled by the local media has been coy about a possible move. Several have openly discussed the problems Augustana faces in fundraising, student population, facilities, and long term viability at the D1 level. Even their President admitted that they may be better off staying D2 and that a lot of their boosters like that they have been able to have success at the D2 level. A lot of the Augie talk seems to surround the league tournament and some boosters wanting them to be part of the SLT. Moving to D1 for one weekend a year would be a stupid move. I do not believe that the leadership at Augie are that stupid.
I highly doubt SDSU, USD or NDSU are interested in bringing Augie in the league. Would the league risk losing SDSU or NDSU by bringing in Augie? Do they want the two schools to begin looking for league options?
The continued success of the league as a whole relies on the two XDSU's sticking around.
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On 4/8/2018 at 4:48 PM, UNDBIZ said:
Auggie endowment is garbage right now. Would move up to mediocre with another $100 million. This is in comparison to other Summit schools, not the good D1 schools.
And they are not going to get $100 million handed to them by Sanford. If they do the noise around state of South Dakota would be deafening. It would be a PR nightmare. My guess is they give them something to kick start a capital campaign that, from my understanding, includes a target of increasing the student body to 3,000 by 2030.
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On 4/8/2018 at 2:09 PM, SIOUXFAN97 said:
meant the comparisons to encompass the combo of enrollment, endowment, and athletic budgets.
The MAC and Sunbelt schools are public universities. All of whom receive funding from the state, all of whom are large enough to also draw from student fees. At least try to do some homework before posting.
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On 4/7/2018 at 8:55 PM, SiouxVolley said:
This is so incredibly anal and myopic that can’t believe there is someone gullible enough to post it.
The correct response by an Augie administrator even if they are serious is to deny.
The Augie President, a former Congresswoman, didn’t even deny DI is not in the cards. She simply said Augie has not talked to the Summit, but boosters have. There are several videos out by Morton and the President answering questions about DI. If there is a booster offering a school $100 million to go DI, that changes a lot.
If Sanford does get Augie votes in the Summit, would suspect that he would start pulling money from the three schools. SDSU would lose out on their arena remodel, USD would lose out on their Dome remodel, and NDSU would not get any Sanford help with an IPF.
UND could get the HPC finished without naming rights if they play their cards right.
Sanford isn't paying for the Frost renovation. Where do you get this stuff? The reason people rip on you is that you sit at your computer and make things up, then post them as fact. T Denny cares about one thing and one thing only. His name being on buildings. He could give a rats butt about what SDSU does in regards to Augustana.
As for Augie. I suggest you listen to the interviews again. She didn't deny D1, she didn't confirm it. In fact, when hounded about the subject she stated, more then once. They will look into again (they did so 12 years ago and found it did not work) and make a decision based on facts. She stated very clearly that they are happy at D2, and that a lot of their boosters like Augie being D2 because they can compete. Translation, "we sucked in the old NCC and if we move up we could very well suck again". Which would kill their athletic department.
Stop trying to push your agenda on other schools and administrators. Stop playing games with words and stop pretending you have any idea what is going on.
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On 4/3/2018 at 4:04 PM, SiouxVolley said:
No. They have stated a desire to get in the WCC ever since they moved back up. Pacific and BYU go in over them. And they have a play at their tiny campus gym until Key Arena is made over so getting out is unlikely for several year.
The Summit is considered a black hole to most schools because it doesn’t have potential students, athletes, or current alumna. It defeats the purpose of being DI and a big reason UMKC and Oakland and IUPUI left. No self respecting school would want to be part of it unless that is also true of it (the Montana’s, N Idaho, Wyoming if it had another school further north).
UMKC left ( and it is mentioned in the below article) because they felt getting to the NCAA tournament would be easier in a new WAC. Oakland wanted into the Horizon from the day they announced the move to D1. Detroit is their natural rival. They made no bones about their intention from the date they joined the Mid-Con. IUPUI wanted into the Horizon based on geography. It is the same reason IPFW want it. Entry into the Horizon places them into a bus league saving a lot of money and creating geographic rivals.
Mar 6, 2018, 8:15am CST Updated Mar 6, 2018, 7:44amThe University of Missouri-Kansas City's affiliation with the Western Athletic Conference is beginning to take its toll.
According to KCUR, the university joined the WAC in 2013 primarily to give its men's basketball team a better shot at landing an automatic bid in the NCAA tournament. However, the team has managed only one winning season since joining the conference.
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On 3/16/2018 at 8:44 PM, SiouxVolley said:
This is one of the comical posts ever. W Illinois is such a big TV game for Chicago suburbs, NOT. The Twin Cities are absolutely enthralled by SDSU-DU games, not. DU costs like $65,000 a year for undergrads and half its undergrads we’re in the top 10% of their HS and that far exceeds Summit schools. Their acceptance rate is high because mostly just wealthy parents have their with top achieving kids apply there where they can go skiing on weekends. The NCHC is a much bigger deal in Minnesota than the Summit ever was and that’s what DU cares about. The Dakotas are not big producers of DU students, but that is where half the Summit will be.
You posted this when the hockey team had its biggest game of the year, but yet you never post anything meaningful. We are supposed to bow down to you because your an AFA athletics peon and have so much knowledge. Your posts are the biggest jokes ever. Never have I seen you post a meaningful realignment mean link, but always criticize. Perhaps news is too much to handle for your brain?
Why is it comical? Because it went against your statement that DU get a large portion of students from California? What you seem to be missing, most DU students could give a rats axx about where their athletics are affiliated. The reality is that DU do not have a lot of options. They have an odd offering of sports which do not fit any league. Yes they would like the WCC, and yes they would leave the Summit for the WCC. The problem is that DU only offer 2 Men's sports played in the WCC. Their women are a little better, they offer 4. If DU gets an offer to join the WCC it is going to cost them a lot of money. They will be REQUIRED to add Men's baseball which would mean also adding a new Women's sport to cover Title IX. They will also be required to pay an annual subsidy to WCC schools to cover the additional travel cost.
By the way, just so you know. I have a number of friends who have sent their kids to DU from Minnesota. They aren't sending their kids to Denver so they can "go skiing on the weekends". It is a good school, with a solid academic reputation, a school that is geographically diverse. If they want their kids to hang with Californian's and party, they would send their kids to CU Boulder. Maybe you have the two schools mixed up.
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3 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
Always try to look at conference affiliation from a Presidents eyes. Denver gets many of its students from California, not from the Dakotas. The Summit actually decreases enrollment for them as it doesn’t increase awareness in California. It has very good soccer, Vb, and lax programs which appeal to west coast kids. Hockey will still be in the NCHC. The WCC is almost all private and elite which DU is. The move is a slam dunk for Denver if they get invited. Think Kennedy and Omaha already know if they are gone.
DU get 7.5% of their students from California. They get 5.8% from Illinois and 4.3% from Minnesota, two Summit states. Not a big difference, hardly something that his going to "decrease" enrollment. Especially for a school that already accepts 73% of all those who apply. I do think they would join the WCC if offered. I highly doubt they get an offer, and if they do, it is going to cost them a great deal of annual cash which they would be required to pay to cover the added travel costs for the smaller WCC schools who aren't fond on spending money on athletics.
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Summit league tournament history, since moving and the two XDSU's becoming eligible is below. The regular season league winner is in bold letters, the SLT championship game with the winner listed first is below. As you can see, SDSU has been at the top of the league for a while now. As has NDSU. Neither are "sneaking" in to the NCAA birth from the 5 - 8 spot.
SDSU has gone to the NCAA tournament 4 times. Twice we have been the 2 seed (2015-16 we shared the regular season title with WIU but lost the tie breaker). We have gone one time as a 1 seed and last year, we were a 4 seed. I get UND fans, and even some USD fans complaining, but NDSU fans complaining? NDSU have gone 3 times from Sioux Falls. Including an upset of 1 seed SDSU in 2014-15.
The tournament is the highest drawing mid-major tournament in the country. That includes drawing larger crowds then the MVC last season. The MVC still had Wichita last year, WSU filled the place. We have seen years when SDSU was not in the title game. Including last year's women's title game between IUPUI and WIU. That game still drew over 5,000. In 2010 and 2011 neither XDSU were in the championship game. Both games had over 5,000 in attendance (at the old Arena). SDSU's "home court" advantage is overblown. Yes we beat out 1 seed USD last year. A rivalry game, SDSU were the hottest team in the league at the end of the season and SDSU had the best player in the league (Mike Daum). That will sometimes give you that result.
To those USD fans posting. Funny how I don't hear a lot of complaints from SDSU fans who watched our 1 seeded women falling to 5 seeded USD a few years back.
UND will be fine in the Summit and I expect, if UND are a high seed, your fans will travel better then NDSU. A school that sends a few hundred fans to the tournament when they are a 1 or 2 seed. The only thing that needs to change at the SLT, get rid of the 2 year ticket buying policy and adjust the days to allow for those schools further away to travel better on the weekend. A Sunday night title game would be perfect. The problem is that ESPN still dictates for TV.
As for schools leaving because of the tournament? IUPUI and Oakland both left the league because geographically they fit better in the Horizon. It is the same reason UND is leaving the Big Sky. Geographically it makes sense. IPFW will do the same if they get a call from the HL. It is a much better fit for them. UMKC left for a few reason but the biggest, ORU and Oakland were leaving and they feared the Summit was dying. Bad move, now UMKC want back in.
2008-09 North Dakota State (16-2)
North Dakota State (1) Oakland (3)
2009-10 Oakland (17-1)
Oakland (1) IUPUI (2)
2010-11 Oakland (17-1)
Oakland (1) Oral Roberts (2)
2011-12 Oral Roberts (17-1)
South Dakota State (2) Western Illinois (4)
2012-13 South Dakota State/Western Illinois (13-3)
South Dakota State (1) North Dakota State (3)
2013-14 North Dakota State (12-2)
North Dakota State (1) Fort Wayne (2)
2014-15 South Dakota State/North Dakota State (12-4)
North Dakota State (2) South Dakota State (1)
2015-16 South Dakota State/Fort Wayne (12-4)
South Dakota State (2) North Dakota State (5)
2016-17 South Dakota (12-4)
South Dakota State (4) Omaha (3)
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2 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
It's hilarious how my previous statements are so attacked here when I was only wrong because I didn't want NDSU to benefit. Turns out we will pave the way for them to go FBS too.
FBS gives much more advertising benefit than FCS because only FBS is taken seriously by the national media. UND would be grouped with much higher level academic institutions, elevating the academic prestige. Both of those are worth millions. If the new Summit can get in the CFP next go round, that's at least $1 mill extra per team plus the games against P5s will be much more valuable paying more than twice our current payouts. FCS doesn't have an financial upside, while FBS does.
Here is the problem with your theory. It is widely known and discussed nationally that the next round of CFP will not be kind to G5 leagues. It is the reason the ACC are trying to position themselves as P6 in the hopes that when the CFP happens they are looked at more favorably then the MWC, and not included with the SBC, CUSA and MAC. The big TV money is drying up and what is left will be kept by the P5 (or P6). G5 will need to survive the old fashioned way. The financial upside is disappearing. Something your theories do not take into account.
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52 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:
So how for real is USD? Will they maintain this momentum or will they fall apart as the season progresses?
USD will go only as far as Strevler can take them. He runs the ball 15-20 per game, he is going to take a beating once league play begins. If he can stay healthy they are a playoff team and could finish as high as 3rd in the league, though I expect they will be 4th behind the trio of NDSU, SDSU and YSU. They face WIU and YSU to begin league play. Two very physical, nasty teams who, if they can will tee off on Strevler every chance they get.
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4 hours ago, the green team said:
That was my great concern with this move when President Kennedy felt it was necessary to move to The Summit. While the Big Sky may have had it's travel issues, especially for UND, it did have a bunch of schools that really have no plans to go anywhere and that creates a substantial known conference schedule year in and year out. Apologize to Sioux Volley, but I remain unconvinced that the Montana schools have any interest in going elsewhere. They and their fans enjoy being the big bad bullies on the block and many years, and in many sports, they have been just that. Having visited with some of their fans this year- they conveyed, they have little to no interest in central time zone games. Now the Presidents who are the decision makers, how do they feel? I couldn't begin to guess, but I have to believe it can't be all that dissimilar to their fans thoughts.
And that brings us back to this move into the Summit. While I look forward to renewing regular games with the teams we have so much history with, how can it be anything but concerning when it seems apparent that so many are trying to get off the ship? As a basketball fan, if the Summit ends up as a 8 or 7 team conference, how does a 14 or even more horrifying 12 game conference schedule sound. Let's be honest, very few schools are knocking down our door to play a game at the Betty in non-conference to play us to begin with. You can say that we can get the Montana's but I don't believe that will happen. They can look west for non-conference games from where they recruit from. My belief is once we make the move to the Summit, we won't be seeing any of the former Big Sky schools at The Betty anytime soon with maybe the exception of Northern Colorado. And depending how many teams are left in the Summit when we arrive.... expect to see our Fighting Hawks at home very little before January, because most of the non-conference opportunities will be for road games only, unless somebody plants a money tree outside The Betty where we can start paying teams to visit. That bothers me as a season ticket holder, I would like to see our team a little bit before the conference season and have at least a couple of games in my season ticket packet be decent match ups before The Summit League conference season begins.
Both SDSU and USD have done a lot of home and home series with BSC schools. Why would UND not do the same? Also, most mid-majors don't spend a lot of time at home in late November and through December, that is if you want to improve your RPI and actually make a tournament. If you aren't home in January there is a bigger issue since league play begins in January.
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6 hours ago, Yote 53 said:
SDSU fans are very protective of their "precious", the SLT in Sioux Falls. Fact is if we could ever manage to put together a conference with the Montanas, etc. the SLT in SF would be gone on an annual basis. It would either become a rotating tournament or we would have to settle on one central destination, hence my suggestion of Rapid City. The Rushmore Plaza can hold 10,000, it would serve just fine as a tournament home.
The Rushmore would need to be blown up and re-built. It is an absolutely terrible venue. That said, sure, could it host? Well, better then Reno, at least it would be filled with mostly SDSU fans. FYI, I see the Summit announced the SLT finished first in mid-major attendance and seventh overall behind only P5 and the Big East.
http://thesummitleague.org/sports/mbkb/2017-18/releases/20170809otp507
Oh, the Montana's are not coming our way. A lot of you really need to get over that idea. It is not going to happen.
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1 hour ago, Yote 53 said:
He didn't say that. He said what every AD at every other school in the conference would say. He said they are a good fit for their current conferences but have to mindful of the ever changing landscape. That's a fair assessment.
The only AD's in the country who can say they are rock solid with where they are at and will never leave are those AD's in the Big Ten and SEC. For everybody else, money talks, and you can never say never.
He's "reading between the lines" as he always does. This is the same individual who states, as fact, that UND are joining the Summit as part of a decade long plan to "take it over" and remake it. My guess is that even UND fans think he's nuts.
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1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:
I just realized there a wholly simple solution:
Disband the MVFC.
Yes, disband the MVFC.Before heads explode ...
Reform it in the Summit League by having the Summit offer football as a sponsored sport:
Full members (2020): UND, NDSU, USD, SDSU, WIU
Affilitates: UNI*, ISU*, ISU*, SIU*, MoSU*, YSUDone.
The Summit would offer FB and MBB and secure their MBB autobid.
And this does zero damage to the MVC as the MVFC is not the MVC.
The MVC has enough sports and teams that their MBB autobid is in no jeopardy.The Summit and MVC both keep MBB autobids (aka NCAA money).
And the "Summit FB" champ would get an FCS FB bid (the old MVFC bid).
*MVC members.
I very well could happen. Most of the MVC schools want nothing to do with FB and getting ISUb and SIU to vote for the change may not be too difficult. The MVC schools who play FB signaled their feelings when UND were added. The Summit schools were told that if they wanted to invite UND the MVC schools didn't really care. I would not be surprised if the Summit took over the MVFC.
Conference Realignments - Take 2
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Unless something has changed, Augie can't afford the WAC. They admitted as much early on. For them it is Summit or NSIC/D2.