ecbrevik
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I guess it would be tough for us to finish in first after I just did the what if calculator, but it would be nice to knock off some of these other teams. We need to finish higher than 4th to hope we can play some of the bottom teams in the conference for the first round and to help our power rankings.
An even more important part of getting into the top three is being guaranteed of avoiding the play-in game at the F5, assuming we win the first round series. DU can attest to that not being a given.
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I feel like taking a step back from hockey for a second, and I'm bored
Many people on here obviously are from far away places, and come here in order to keep tally on the sioux, make a statement/arguement, or just straight up b.s. I guess I am curious where everyone is from? Did you once live here? Or any other info you care to share 8o) I myself, born and raised here in sioux country. Grand Forks, older super senior at UND
Living in Valdosta, Georgia, which is only about 20 miles north of the Florida border. I'm from Minot, and spent 6 years in Grand Forks at UND.
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So, we lose Murray to the Badgers in the same week that we get swept at home by them.
Does that mean that David Toews is going to sign with Tech this week?
Bite your tongue!
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Well, Belmore hasn't played well the past three weeks and for those weeks the defense bailed him out. It had to end sometime.
Now, does this make the USD game a must win?
It very well might, especially since USD has dropped down the regional rankings themselves. Its not like a loss to them next week would be a loss to a top regional team. Have to see how the rankings look next week.
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50 seconds left. Let's get Glas in range
We are acting like we have 30:00 minutes instead of 30 seconds!!!!!!!!!!
It's up to GLAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMFG!!!!
Short, we lost
Hard to win when your QB turns the ball over like that's the object of the game
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Ack. UND up 19-14. UND driving to try to burn the clock, Belmore fumbles at the 45. UNO gets the ball with 1:51 to go at the UND 42.
Win or loose, its NEVER easy for UND against UNO
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At the end of the 3rd, UMD has a couple TD lead on USD. If that holds and UND holds on, UND is your 2005 NCC champ.
If that holds, UMD is setting pretty good for the D-II playoffs as well I believe!
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sioux football is all that matters.
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If that is truly your opinion, then kindly limit yourself to the football board. Others here happen to care about other sports, or in many cases, multiple Sioux sports.
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Ah, SiouxFootballField, maybe you should try using understandable English next time
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$180.00 for the personalization or the whole jersey?? i hope it was for the whole jersey
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Yes, it was for the whole jersey, including personalization
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University of North Dakota UFFDAs. Fits in with the Scandinavian heritage, and stands for Un-named For Fear of Descriminating against Anyone.
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As for taking the class as part of the general requirements it would not take you longer to graduate, as you would be taking this course instead of taking say Geology.
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You have to match up like classes. American Indian studies would be a humanities class, Geology is a science class. You could replace a humanities with your idea, but not a science.
Apples to apples here.
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Bottom lline...UND is not in the top 100 overall in terms of licensing revenue. It's great that you all see random sioux shirts across the country...like every other school does...but UND is not in the big leagues with the top programs.
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And why is this so important to you? After reading through this thread, you sound rather envious of the Sioux program. If you weren't, there wouldn't be any need to spend so much time trying to put it down.
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I wonder if that chaps some arses somewhat.
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What probably chaps more is the fact the NDSU doesn't show on the top 100
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Toews, third period of the first game.
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Finley, first period, 8 Oct vs Miami; he's just too big
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Agree with Finley
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Don't worry about NDSU we'll be just fine with a conference or not.
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Thats why the only other D-IAA independent (outside the schools that left the NCC) is Savannah State. In D-IA, you have Notre Dame, Army, Navy, and Temple (a school that was so bad they were tossed from their conference). Not all that many lining up for the chance to be independent, are there? Heavyweights such as Florida State and Miami have left the ranks of the independents in the last 10 years or so because of the problems associated with being an independent. Consultants that advise schools on the move from D-II to D-I recommend against the move unless the D-II school already has a D-I conference commitement. This, by the way, was included in the report to NDSU. Your athletic people were advised not to jump without a conference. And now, from all I hear, your athletic department is facing a significant financial deficit from last year and still needs to raise significant funds for the coming year.
Yeah, schools are just lining up for the chance to play an independent schedule
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I just wanted to offer up another scenario regarding the DI vs. DII debate, regarding recruiting. We've talked alot about the caliber of ND athletes and whether or not there are enough quality players in the pool to support two DI programs in the state, or even one for that matter. I went to a very small Class B high school (about 100 students), we didn't have football but were very good in basketball, especially girls' basketball. Our girls went to state five times during my 7th thru 12th grade years, winning once, and finishing runnerup once. We had pretty competetive boys teams as well. During my time there were 8 student-athletes that went on to play college basketball. 3 played JUCO, 3 played NAIA, 1 played DII, and one played DI. The DII player was a Mr. Basketball finalist who played in JUCO (UND-Lake Region), NAIA (Jamestown College), and DII (NDSU). The DI player was a 1995 Miss Basketball winner who went on to play at Weber St. Perhaps if UND were DI, or if NDSU had been at the time, my schools Miss Basketball winner would have stayed in the state. My worry is that 10-15 years down the road, if UND stays DII, that NDSU will have a far superior advantage in recruiting the best ND athletes. 15 years from now, if UND is not playing games against NDSU, the animosity between the two will likely wear off. An incoming freshman will likely want to play for the school that competes at the highest level, if he or she has the opportunity to. I realize right now that while NDSU is early on its transition that it may not be a very big factor, as the playing field is still fairly close, and the sense of being rivals is still there, I'm sure alot of kids growing up have preconceived notions about being a UND fan or NDSU fan. But my fear is that 10, 15, 20 years down the road, that UND will be forced to or only have the opportunity to sign student-athletes that today would only be considered NAIA caliber players. I worry that of the next 8 student-athletes to come out of my school 4 will play in the NAIA and 4 will play in DII, not nessecarily because of their talent, but because the highest quality athletes may now get offers from the two existing DI schools in our region (NDSU or SDSU).
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That may be an issue with borderline players, but some athletes are clearly D-I caliber and some are clearly D-II or lower caliber. UND may loose some borderline players to NDSU, but they will also be the undisputed top choice of many North Dakota student-athletes who are good, but not D-I level. And there are more of those in North Dakota than there are solid D-I prospects.
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So you can't make it to any of the games anyway?
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1) Thats not true, they have these things called airplanes, and
2) even if it was, that doesn't mean I no longer care about my alma mater. I still want to see the best possible decisions made for its future.
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Now to the Mid-Con. I think this league could have great potential with a few moves of existing teams and a couple of extra moves from DII. Centenary is leaving soon and Southern Utah will continue to look for a more geographically appropriate league (likely the Big Sky).
The following set up could fare quite nicely
West - UND, NDSU, SDSU, UNO, UMKC, Oral Roberts
East - Chicago St., IUPUI, W. Illinois, Oakland, IUPU-Ft. Wayne (current independent) and possibly Northern Kentucky of Grand Valley St.
Grand Valley would be a nice rival for Oakland, Northern Kentucky would bring the Cincinnati market.
If you could get Grand Valley, you would even have six football schools and could have a Mid-Con football league.
Such a grouping of schools would give the league stability it has never had and lead to a brighter future. You could even do like the Horizon league and change the name to rid the demons of the Mid-Con. Perhaps the Heartland Conference or Great America Conference.
Finally the current Mid-Con has swimming, the one non-revenue sport where UND could possibly be competitive.
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Mid-Con is a bad fit. There is no-one who is a "natural" rivalry and they don't have football. Football would be critical to making a D-I move work, UND will need the gate and other football related revenues. Going independent for football, in my opinion, would be pretty much as bad as moving up without a conference. Swimming, on the other hand, wouldn't be that important in making a D-I move successful because it is not a revenue sport. Sorry if I'm offending any swimmers, its not disrespect to the sport. But quite simply, you have to pay the bills. At UND, your revenue is going to come from football, basketball, and hockey.
Your re-aligned Mid-Con might work, but there are a couple of major problems with it. It requires that NDSU and SDSU go to it. I would think they also prefer Big Sky because of football issues. It also depends on 2 or 3 additional current D-II schools going D-I before football works. That may or may not happen. Given how important football would be to making D-I work, I would much rather see a move to Big Sky if UND goes D-I. Big Sky not only has football, they are a D-IAA football power conference.
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ecbrevik,
You make excellent points, and I respect your opinion as you obviously put alot of thought into your argument. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. Personally, as someone who lives in this area and attends alot of UND events, I simply am not happy with the state of the NCC, DII as a whole, and the level of competition that we have been/will be competing against (especially in basketball). I just think that our fine university has recently outgrown the league in which it fit so comfortably in for so many years.
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And I can certainly respect your view. As I stated earlier, its not a cut and dried situation where one choice is obviously better than the other. I readily admit there are pros and cons both ways.
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I-AA FOOTBALL TOP 25
Avg Enroll: 13,261
Avg Pop: 36,833
Avg Attend: 10,105
UND Enroll: 13,000
GF Pop: 54,000
UND Attend: 9,389
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I-AA SCHOOLS WITH HOCKEY
Total enrollment: 11,833
City Population: 94,693 (If you throw out Northeastern in Boston it is 51,120)
Avg Football Attendance: 8,061
Avg Hockey Attendance: 3,036
UND Enrollment: 13,000
GF Population: 54,000
Avg UND FB Attendance: 9,389
Avg UND Hky Attendence: 10,870...
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Last point, average enrollment of DII schools is about 4,300, while enrollment of schools with I-AA football is a little over 10,000. I believe UND's enrollment is right around 13,000.
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The demographics of UND are much more similar to Mid/Lower level DI institutions than they are to DII.
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That is kind weird that a kid playing minnesota hockey all his life has a dream of playing for the Sioux
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UND is closer, geographically, to many of the north Minnesota kids than the U of Minnesota. We've always done well recruiting in northern Minnesota, which I would think would correspond to building up something of an alumni/fan base there over the years. Our northern Minnesota alumni come from a lot of sources other than hockey, obviously.
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The guys won, so what does Moy say about the Sioux and the woods now? And got that tree yet PCM?