Boydj282
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Augies not in the Summit unless they get enough presidents on board. So far there has been an orderly change of Summit membership. I dont know if Augie is included in future plans to replace a departing member but its very possible Augie may be the last hope.
Of course the South Dakota Schools, especially USD, are concerned about splitting the pie. USD is the weak sister and if the pie can't grow would certrainly be hurt the most. It could be viewed just as much of an extistential crises for the Summit as it is for USD. Augie may find them a perfect D1 foil. The games in Sioux Falls would be huge. They may both end up needing each other to survive.
The funny thing is Augie is already competing with those schools for players, corporate dollars and fans. Augie has a presence in Sioux Falls and USD is probably a bit worried about their ability to compete if Augie improves their profile.
SDSU and NDSU will be just fine. Both have footprints far greater than the sourrounding communities. Both have the potential to move on and both are key to the Summit and MVFC futures. Of course its the UxDs that have the biggest worry.
All of the Dakota schools would trade some ridiculous out of conference guarantee home game of little or no interest for a profitable conference game within easy distance of all fans.
Augie is a founding member of the old NCC just like St. Thomas, NDSU, SDSU, UND, USD, and UNI. They belong. They bring baseball, but that probably won't sooth the huge egos that think Augie is beneath them or quiet the fear some are expressing.
If they are ready take them in.
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Dude, Bisonville is available for Bison fans that want to beat their chest. Yes, NDSU is really good in FCS football. This subject/thread is about UND football.
You should go over there then. The post was about UND and how they compare to the best. Instead of resentment it should be inspiring ambition. Ambition to be better, to give more, to contribute somehow to help UND overcome the shortcomings that are obviously apparent.
Bro you need a positive pro-UND attitude, not a negative anti-NDSU Bison attitude. What does UND have to overcome the deficits? That's what the post was about, not the Bison.
Please carry one.
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5 hours ago, northernraider said:
So what you are saying is anything can happen? Glad I bought a ticket
No! What GAM Headquarters is saying it's UND -9.
If UND doesnt handle this team easily it will be a short season begining at the Fabulous Fargo Dome the following week. UND could be on the sidelines by Oct but still mathematically eligible for the playoffs.
Thats twice if you need it explained a third time please PM me.
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This looks like a great game. We have UND -9. O/U: 43 Mythical score: 26-17
Last season the Hawks were a force beating 2 out of 3 teams ranked at game time. They won most of their games decisevely and the losses were mostly close. There are significant losses but there is enough remaining especially on defense to be optimistic its next man up.
Drake had problems with the stonger teams and lost decisively to Montana. People are certain to be looking at the comparative scores: UND 41 Montana 14; Drake 16 Montana 48. That game was early. Drake did much better later in a losing effort to San Diego and only lost to Iowa State by 3.
There is upset potential for Drake. Its UND -11.5 on 5dimes and -9 and GAM Headquarters. There is also route potential for the Hawks. That is what the UND fans are looking for if there is going to be optimism going into what is a tough stretch of games starting at the Fabulous Fargo Dome.
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To have a great football team a university needs a great college of football. Advantages would include the programs funding, history and traditions. National presence with a pipeline into the NFL. History of great coaching and winning. Facilities including stadium. Talent already on the team. Fan support and status of sport on campus and in community. Communities social opportunities. Schedule. From there things like educational opportunities etc might help an athlete distinguish between their top choices.
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As of yesterday UND was an 11.5 pt favorite on 5dimes.
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15 hours ago, gundy1124 said:
Cost is only measured per Victory??
So dumb......
No, cost/victory is an overall measure of efficiency regarding cost of success. It's too granular to tell anything about why the efficiency is what it is but it does tell you how efficient the program is at delivering success. At $1.5 mill/victory success is expensive at UND when compared to NDSU's $377,000 or so.
Of course Alabama finds itself in the same position as NDSU. Cost/victory is low when compared to their peers that are spending as much as they can to be competitive too.
Im going to predict a cost/victory of say $545,000 for the Bison and $1 million for UND in the 2019 season. Im taking the under on the Herd and the over on the Hawks.
The Bison will probably out-spend the Hawks by at least 1 million in 2019, as they usually do, but will deliver a lot more victories at a far cheaper cost/victory. That's the way it goes for schools that are good at football.
Ps. Just for comparison based on Median FCS spending and a .500 season cost/victory was $679,690.
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15 hours ago, homer said:
They buy coffee in bulk and serve it in the locker room at halftime.
I went to a UND game once. A few UND guys wearing fraternity jackets and Sioux gear were helping one of their pals out that was not in good shape when he stopped to throw up. One of the guys said “it’s ok. Just bad coffee.” Some UND fans are still saying that and sound like whining losers sound. Face it “bad coffee” is another UND meme like “the moral victory” and "toe-to-toe".
Not sure about the Bison QB. Doesn’t really matter. Several QBs in the MVFC contributed more yards to their teams than Stick. There is more than enough QB talent to unleash all the offensive weapons on that team.
It wont be an easy game to win if the Hawks cant get a first down until the 4th qtr. again.
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5 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said:
Thanks for the thesis. Sheesh. You could’ve just said you can’t afford to go to the game and left it at that.
That’s partially true. We gave up our TM tickets in 2012 when we left Fargo. Haven’t been back since. Too bad too, they were in the $600+ section
Budgets aren’t everything it’s how the money is spent. NDSU does an outstanding job on that. They are very good at football.
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2 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
Budgets are not similar, my gawd. And I didn't know your OC came from Indiana State, interesting.
Most recent data I have on football spending is 2017.
UND spent $4,464,097. Cost/victory about $1.5 Million Dollars
NDSU spent $5,281,392. Cost/victory about $377,000 including a National Championship. This is pure football elegance and beauty. NDSU is very good at football
Wyoming spent $10,495,612. Cost/victory about $1.32 Million
Alabama Crimson Tide spent about $62.252 Million $4.789 Million/victory and a National Championship.
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3 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said:
Where is your seat? I would like to come over and say hello.
Last Bison game I went to was in Iowa City. Next one will be in Oregon. I like Cedar Falls games. These kinds of games are for the little people. The football-loving hoi palloi.
The Fabulous Fargo Dome is always sold out. The only reason this is a big ticket is because UND fans want in. The prices are laughably high. Nobody From Fargo is buying. They are selling.
The UND roster has not been upgraded much, if at all, this off season and you have, for better or worse, a new OC that’s wet behind the ears but was once a star for the Hawks at QB.
Currently Sagarin has NDSU #19 in the country. Their roster is loaded. They have a new head coach that was DC on last years national champions with a long track record of success. They also have a new OC direct from a successful program at Indiana State and an enviable Bison pedigree as a player.
Budgets for the 2 schools are very similar. NDSU just gets a lot of bang for their football buck. On that basis they are very good at football. Among the best.
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On 8/8/2019 at 8:29 PM, Mama Sue said:
I did not pay $500 for my ticket... but more than $117... seat probably is not the best but I will be there.
your not inside the 40s either. Like the author said any price is the right price.
each sale drives the prices higher.
Just saw this on FCS.
QuoteProblem for the Hawks is the schedule. Lots of ranked teams but NDSU is first and best. A decisive loss in this game and the Hawks could be on the skids with EWU and UC Davis on consecutive weeks. They play SHSU, another bubble team, first.
If they pick up their wins on the weaker side of the conference like they did in 2015 they will watch the playoffs once again.
Not only is it their super bowl, it’s an early elimination game for the Hawks.
Looking at the -11.5 point Hawk advantage on 5 dimes against Drake this prediction on the Bison game could be conservative
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6 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
214 and 213 should also be season ticket holder (Champions Club) seating along with the current section 215. Students should have 212, 211, and 210. I'm sorry, but I highly doubt anyone can change my mind on this. The NCAA requires the section to move during the playoffs anyways, and if you look around the country (even NDSU), the students just don't get the 50 yard line for seating. That takes away from season ticket holders who are actually willing to BOTH pay and stay the entirety of the game (not to mention actually attend each game).
UND is dropping the ball on this big time based on how they set up student seating. Students still should get free tickets and the same overall amount of seating , but no one watching on TV should have to witness entire sections empty while watching (the cameras face those sections, particularly those on the 50). It makes the UND football atmosphere look awful.
I am sure it is simply showing how it is.
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This was just posted over at FCS:
QuoteUniversity of North Dakota doesn’t really have a big game until they travel to Fargo in the second week which, I am sure, they widely recognize as their Super Bowl. They have been talking about it since their last visit in 2015, a 39-9 loss that wasn’t as close as it looks.
Many fans in Grand Forks claim the 2015 UND team the best of all time based on the 24-13 win over Wyoming and the 7-4 FCS record.
Saturday, September 7, 2:30 PM
The Fabulous Fargo Dome. SOLD OUT
Fargo, North Dakota
PREDICTED WINNER: NDSU BISON
SPREAD: NDSU -15
OVER/UNDER: 55
MYTHICAL SCORE: NDSU BISON 35. UND 20
Tickets at Stub Hub are between $500-$650 to sit close to the 50 yd line. End zone $117+. It is a hot ticket. When I visited the site 325 were viewing, all UND fans I imagine. Of course being from The University cost isn’t important. Green Dickie with long white neck scarf de rigueur though for UND men.
https://www.stubhub.com/north-dakota-st ... sid=563489-
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6 hours ago, bincitysioux said:
Good God, the Summit League is pathetic.......
If UND wasn’t kicked out of the big sky why did they bother to join the “pathetic” Summit?
i see SHSU is no longer a top 25 team but remains in the top 30, just as good as a decent D2.. They were always a paper tiger. Look at their record in FCS championship games. I don’t think anybody in the new FBS league being talked about should ever play them but for now it’s the big time.
Since UND received 1 vote in the group of schools also receiving votes this game could qualify as another UND Super Bowl! That would be great considering the biggest game in UND football history, UNDs Super Bowl in Fargo, is also played this year. Two big games like that spells FBS for sure
Traffic will be heavy around the FFD for that game so be sure to brush up on traffic light rules. Make sure your equipment trailer lights are working too. They are real sticklers about that. Lots of unsophisticated country people coming in.
Should be an amazing time for your kids stepping onto one of the nations most revered and prestigious football fields, in the States largest football venue in North Dakota’s largest city! What an experience for the kids from Grand Forks! Good luck!
Great exposure for the new FBS league too! What a thrill for your fans and team.
Will there be an NCAA delegation there scouting the new FBS league? I heard SV says the leagues a sure thing.
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8 hours ago, SiouxVolley said:
Bison73 wants me banned as I called him out on the old guard would FBS like DI had for all the pre-1978 teams. That just just enraged him because he saw the fallacy of his logic. So he signed up for another nickname or got a friend to and proceeded to petition for a ban, like he has done for Lakes several times.
Anyone that likes FBS for the Dakotas and Montanas is despised by him and they shouldn’t get a voice. Lakes pushes FBS but only for NDSU and U Montana.
That post is truly unfortunate. If you are around SV be careful and have an exit plan in case he opens fire.
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Do you really want to judge an entire university, city, and fan base by one internet personality?
Lakes.
You are probably right but nobody ever calls the guy on his habit of calling names and the moderators never intervene so I guess I got the impression the community approved of the behavior. BV banned Lakes. That gave the impression the community did not support his behavior.
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Why is this Sioux volley person constantly insulting people? It is impossible to prove an argument by calling others name, especially an argument that has failed like his. Is that person a grown adult and graduate of UND and is his disagreeable persona typical of people from UND? If so I’m truly sorry about the state of higher education in grand forks and no longer confused about unds reputation.
Conference Realignments - Take 2
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I believe many UND fans feel Augie is beneath the Summit that most don’t seem to have a high regard for anyway.
USD on the other hand realizes Augie is a real challenge for them, if not an existential threat. They use the Augie profile argument to cover the fact they feel there isn’t enough room for another SD school.
Augie is in better shape now than 30 years ago when they were also the smallest. If they have the money let them in
I see Augie as I always saw Augie. They are a charter member. The others are St. Thomas, NDSU, SDSU, USD &UNI. There are six solid members, 7 with UMKC that will
Augie and St. Thomas could be 2 Summit non scholarship football teams. There are other likely suspects in the league too.
It looks like it’s turning out the Summit is the NCC 2. Our past is our future. We have no place else to go.