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Great posts by UNDhockey22 and right on the mark!
I don't doubt that Chad Johnson wants a few local players on his roster, but I doubt that he would take many, if any, "token" players as SportsDoc implies. That implication is not only rank speculation, but it is not logical. First, Chad Johnson wants to move on to the next level just like the players. That means winning first. Second, if he was just putting local players on the team to put "butts" in the stands, why would he have not taken more local players who tried out? There were many local players who tried out that were on Elite 1 leagues in both ND and Minnesota that did not make the team. I can give you names, but I really don't think that is necessary. Finally, the Jets are the top team in the league. That is a testament to the quality of the players that Chad Johnson gets, local or otherwise. The fact is that the quality of hockey in this area has improved greatly, so it is possible to have a number of local players and still succeed. Ironically, Dane Litke, who coaches Bismarck, only took 2 local players, and 1 does not play. Yet, the FM Jets have done much better than Bismarck both head-to-head and in the league.
Who are the two local kids that are on the Bobcats?
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The length of the list of players is impressive. The schools, for the most part, are anything but. And nice try putting the National Development team of 16 year olds on there! Must be a great league if USA Hockey moves their players out at 17! Take out the NDT players and the list is long and unimpressive. Will it improve? Maybe, but no for sures on that.
Seems to me some of you who slam any posts that praise the West in HS hockey, go to great (and very similar arguements) lengths to uplift the NAHL. Go back and substitute "West" for NAHL and "East" for USHL and I bet you see some of your posts differently. As for an individual player moving from the USHL to the NAHL, could be lots of reasons. Homesick, misses friends, misses girlfriend, doesn't like being out of their "comfort" zone away from home, all of the above.
I don't see Sioux/Gopher HS recruits who are not ready for UND or Minnesota being told to play in the NAHL for a year or two. Quite the opposite, they are sent to the USHL to become D-I ready.
I simply went to www.nahl.com copy and pasted a link under "college commitment" and posted it. I beleive I also stated that the USHL is the the biggest pipeline to college hockey therefore supporting your argument. I beleive that even though some of the players are listed on the USDTP it is still a product of the North American Hockey League.
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I am going to go with a score of 5 to 4 with RedRiver winning the game.
Fargo South over Red River 4-1
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I, for one, will not put the NAHL in the same catagory as the USHL. I do not think it is even close the number of WCHA, Hockey East or CCHA scholorship players currently on their rosters from the USHL compared to the NAHL.
Also, Junior Hockey is a business. The owners are trying to make money by putting butts in the seats, so there is always a splattering of "local" talent to draw the fans. The rub is to mix that with the talent level necessary to win. Part of what that means is teams like F/M and Bismarck need some "locals" from ND to help attendance that might not otherwise be on those teams, so it might well skew your numbers even more, compared to USHL numbers where ND players are there strictly because of their talent level. My point is there are probably bubble players on the rosters of F/M and Bismarck from ND (or western Mn.). Maybe not, but I would suspect from the business side, there is. In the USHL that player would be from close to the team's home, if he's around at all.
That means, in reality, there are 5 ND players from last year's class playing top notch, D-I recruited, Junior Hockey. You can look at it however you want, that is how I look at it.
This is a list of former NAHL players recruited to plat college hockey( not all are Div.1) The USHL is the biggest pipeline to college hockey. Although the NAHL is sending more and more players each season.
Billings Jeff Christiansen Union 06
Billings Matt Becker Airforce 06
Bismarck Jacques Lamoureux Airforce 06
Bismarck Tim Krystosek Airforce 07
Bismarck Eric Kattelus Michigan Tech 07
Bozeman Ryan Bunger Michigan Tech 06
Bozeman Josh Heidinger Canisius 06
Bozeman Chris Mckelvie Bemidji 06
Bozeman Brett Nylander Airforce 06
Bozeman Brian Moore Bowling Green 06
Bozeman Matt Dalton Bemidji 07
Bozeman Graham McManamin Bemidji 06
Bozeman Pete Fylling St. Norberts 06
Cleveland
Fairbanks
Fargo Moorhead Kai Kantola Bowling Green 06
Fargo Moorhead Phil Fox Northern Michigan 06
Fargo Moorhead Ryan Cramer Bemidji 07
Helena
Mahoning Valley Chris Fairbanks Alambama Huntsville 07
Mahoning Valley Ryan Zapolski Mercyhurst College 07
Mahoning Valley Nathan Longpre Robert Morris 07
Minnesota Chris Johnson Uconn 06
North Iowa
Santa Fe Brandon Johnson Airforce 06
Santa Fe Alex Arnason St Thomas 06
Santa Fe Phil Greer Bowling Green 06
Santa Fe Andy Gevorkyan AIC 06
Santa Fe Corey Stark Superior 06
Santa Fe Brandon Vossberg Denver 06
Santa Fe Brant Marple Northern Michigan 06
Santa Fe Anthony Bohn Saint Mary's 06
Southern Minnesota Jason Wiley Mankato 06
Springfield Chris Conway Stevens Points 06
Springfield David Nicoletti Alabama 06
Springfield Paul Forselius Salve Regina 06
Texarkana Riley Gill Western Michigan 06
Texarkana Casey Haines Ferris State 06
Texarkana Pat Knowlton Army 06
Texarkana Pat Maroon Ferris State 06
Texarkana Jason Weeks Canisius 06
Texarkana Anthony Becker Canisius 07
Texarkana Justin Johnson Michigan State 06
Texarkana Aaron Lewicki Ferris State 06
Texas Devin Stonehouse Canisius 06
Traverse City
USDTP
Wasilla
Wichita Falls Chris Ochoa Uconn 06
NAHL 2004-05 College Commitment List
Team First Last College Year
Alpena Jeremy Barber Robert Morris 05
Alpena Jake Hovick West Point 05
Alpena Bobby Phillips Mercyhurst 05
Alpena Paul Scalici Bentley College 05
Alpena Kaleigh Schrock Neuman College 05
Billings Jon Anderson UConn 05
Billings Greg Flynn Air Force 05
Billings Brian Kaufman Miami University 05
Billings Mike Mayra Air Force 05
Billings Mike Mayra Air Force 05
Billings Matt Palmer Brown 05
Bismarck Nick Bydal Stevens Point 05
Bismarck Matt Koenig Stout 05
Bismarck Clay Rehm St. Thomas 05
Bismarck Nick Schneider UConn 05
Bismarck Aaron Walski North Dakota 05
Bozeman Brett Beckfeld Stevens Point 05
Bozeman Nick Biondo Plattsburgh 05
Bozeman Ross Johnson River Falls 05
Bozeman Josh Kassel Army 05
Bozeman Bill Leahy Army 05
Bozeman Zack McKelvie Army 05
Bozeman Josh Meyers River Falls 05
Bozeman Brett Nylander Air Force 06
Bozeman Jason Woll Milwaukee 05
Central Texas Nick Larson AIC 05
Cleveland Nick Biondo Ohio State 05
Cleveland Jacob Cepis Bowling Green 05
Cleveland Lukas DeLorenzo Penn State 05
Cleveland Kirk Golden Hobart College 05
Cleveland Bob Helminen Northern Michigan 05
Cleveland Kurt Kivisto Michigan State 05
Cleveland Patrick Schafer Ohio State 05
Cleveland Matt Shouneyia Michigan State 05
Cleveland Steve Silver Western Michigan 05
Fairbanks Matt Jolly Alaska - Anchorage 05
Fairbanks Jared Kaufmann Nebraska - Omaha 05
Fairbanks Mike Phillipich Air Force 05
Fargo Moorhead Todd Alexander North Dakota 05
Fargo Moorhead Tom Dickhudt Bentley College 05
Fargo Moorhead Lance Malark UConn 05
Fargo Moorhead Chris Myhro UConn 05
Fargo Moorhead Brent Olson Air Force 05
Fargo Moorhead Dain Prewitt Bentley College 05
Helena Doug Gebbie Utica 05
Helena Eric Griffin AIC 05
Helena Brandon Marino Bemidji State 05
Helena Cory Mozak River Falls 05
Helena Nate Rein Superior 05
Helena Keith Roder AIC 05
Helena Ryan Sullivan Finlandia University 05
Helena Travis Whitehead Superior 05
Helena Matt Woodward AIC 05
Kewadin Indians Marty Gurnoe Lake State 05
Kewadin Indians Ray Kaunisto Northern Michigan 06
Minnesota Josh Frider Air Force 05
Minnesota Ryan Hawkins UConn 05
Minnesota Tim Manthly Army 05
Santa Fe Brendon Bayers U Conn 05
Santa Fe Luke Buetow Canisius College 05
Santa Fe Chris Carlson Robert Morris 05
Santa Fe Andrew Goberstein Bentley College 05
Santa Fe Eric Dahlberg UConn 05
Santa Fe Ryan Hatch Canisius College 05
Santa Fe Andrew Johnson Bentley College 05
Santa Fe Bryan Plaszcz Maine 05
Spring Mo Sean Erickson UConn 05
Spring Mo Matt Szypura River Falls 05
Spring Mo Derek Kitti Michigan Tech 05
Springfield IL Andy Cankar Stevens Point 05
Springfield IL Jeff Gumear Bentley College 05
Springfield IL Chris Johnson Dartmouth 05
Springfield IL Ryan Klusendorf Canisius College 05
Springfield IL Wes Russel Quinnipiac College 05
Springfield IL Alex Seminov Merrimack University 05
Springfield IL Matt Stendahl Stevens Point 05
Texarkana Andrew Broughton Curry College 05
Texarkana Pat Galivan Western Michigan 05
Texarkana Eric Hansen River Falls 05
Texarkana Jake Hanson Marion College 05
Texarkana Ryan Olson Finlandia University 05
Texarkana Matt Taurmina Providence 05
Texas Ben Bishop Maine 05
Texas Brad Cooper Providence 05
Texas Matt Krug Wayne State 05
Texas Tyler Ludwig Western Michigan 05
Texas Nick Mazzolini Providence 05
Texas Austin Miller Providence 05
Texas Justin Liutf Bowling Green 05
Texas Tom Train Alabama - Huntsville 05
Texas Derek Punches Wayne State 05
USDTP Jason Bailey Michigan 05
USDTP Brett Bennett Boston University 06
USDTP Michael Carmen Minnesota 06
USDTP Dan Fardig Michigan 05
USDTP Jimmy Fraser Harvard 05
USDTP Jeff Frazee Minnesota 05
USDTP Brandon Gentile Michigan State 05
USDTP Nathan Gerbe Boston College 05
USDTP David Inman Yale 06
USDTP Jack Johnson Michigan 05
USDTP Erik Johnson Minnesota 05
USDTP Zach Jones North Dakota 05
USDTP Phil Kessel Minnesota 05
USDTP Jason Lawrence Boston University 05
USDTP Kyle Lawson Notre Dame 05
USDTP Zach Macvoy Michigan 05
USDTP Jamie McBain Wisconsin 06
USDTP Justin Mercier Miami University 05
USDTP Mark Mitera Michigan 05
USDTP Peter Mueller Minnesota 06
USDTP Jack Skille Wisconsin 05
USDTP Greg Squires Boston University 06
USDTP Ryan Stoa Minnesota 05
USDTP Brian Strait Boston University 06
USDTP Chris Summers Michigan 06
USDTP Bill Sweat Colorado College 06
USDTP Andreas Valssopoulos Colorado College 05
Wichita Falls Dan Dileo Cornell 05
Wichita Falls Kevin Huck Minnesota 05
Wichita Falls Nick Klaren Stout 05
Wichita Falls Jack Wogemuth Stout 05
Wichita Falls Derek Hansberry Stout 05
Wichita Falls Evan Byers Eau Claire 05
Wichita Falls Andy Roberts St. Mary's 05
Wichita Falls Dave Lewendowski Wentworth 05
Wichita Falls Brent Sarcone RIT 05
Youngstown Anthony Canzoneri Bentley College 05
Youngstown Evan Case Ferris State 05
Youngstown Andrew Fiore Marian College 05
Youngstown Rob Rassey Holy Cross 05
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So was he recently injured again?
Layne has had a history with concussions, he recently suffered another one.
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In addition to those examples... Central had a kid who transferred from Bottineau (whose name escapes me now) on one of their championship teams in the early '90s, during the Jay Panzer era. I believe Central also had a Devils Lake transfer within the past 5 years or so. Somebody here who follows their program more closely than I do probably knows the names of the players I'm thinking of.
I cant be positive, but I think the kid from Devils Lake was Keaton Wolf. Wasnt he a goalie, that ended up not playing, due to some kid named Lamoreaux? Again, I'm not positive on this info.
EDIT: I just saw the post from 13UND2008, sorry for doubling up on the info.
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lives to play hockey, wow.... find friends and talk to them....... pleaseJust a question, are you an idiot? if i was responding to your post do you think i would have cited his as well?
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Is there any truth to the rumer of tyler klein being a potential first round draft pick (nhl) next year?
Doubtful
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Don't know, from reading this thread, there appears to be a score of good goaltenders from ND this year. Hillman, Rosenthal, Kringstad, Deichert... and maybe a few others.
My question is this: Has there been any other year where posters can say that there were more than 2 notable goaltenders for the season at the conclusion of the season? It seems to be that, whether it is a GF school or South, there seems to be one dominating goaltender a season. This year there are much more than that.
I would agree, there were alot of good goaltenders this year. But the two goalies that stood out in my mind were Sean Deichert of Fargo South and Michael Hillman of Bismarck high. Deichert for his constant good play which can obviously be seen when looking at his statistics and Hillman for his great performances throughout the year( although i only saw his game at Fargo South and 2 of 3 games at state) and his also above par stats. Rosendahl was also up there as i watched him play 5 or 6 times as well as less mentioned Justin Welk. I beleive Tony Kringstad was "alright" throughout the year with a couple of good if not great games but i do not approve of his antics, regardless he still played very well throughout the year . The only difference between the top two goalies in the state this year is that Deichert played on a great team and Hillman did not . But i beleive that if Deichert were to play for a team like BHS he would also have some memorable games where if Hillman played for FSH he probably would have had much better statistics. I think that at the state tournament everything was as it should have been except for the Minot Central game.I am happy with the fact the South won it all and were very deserving of its title victory. Although i think Central would have had a better shot if Shane were in net against South in the semis. Either way a great year for high school hockey! and an Even Better year for Fargo Hockey!!!
GO BRUINS!!
06-07 Mr. Hockey
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Which one does not play?