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  1. Great posts by UNDhockey22 and right on the mark! :ohmy:

    I don't doubt that Chad Johnson wants a few local players on his roster, but I doubt that he would take many, if any, "token" players as SportsDoc implies. That implication is not only rank speculation, but it is not logical. First, Chad Johnson wants to move on to the next level just like the players. That means winning first. Second, if he was just putting local players on the team to put "butts" in the stands, why would he have not taken more local players who tried out? There were many local players who tried out that were on Elite 1 leagues in both ND and Minnesota that did not make the team. I can give you names, but I really don't think that is necessary. Finally, the Jets are the top team in the league. That is a testament to the quality of the players that Chad Johnson gets, local or otherwise. The fact is that the quality of hockey in this area has improved greatly, so it is possible to have a number of local players and still succeed. Ironically, Dane Litke, who coaches Bismarck, only took 2 local players, and 1 does not play. Yet, the FM Jets have done much better than Bismarck both head-to-head and in the league.

    Who are the two local kids that are on the Bobcats?

  2. The length of the list of players is impressive. The schools, for the most part, are anything but. And nice try putting the National Development team of 16 year olds on there! Must be a great league if USA Hockey moves their players out at 17! Take out the NDT players and the list is long and unimpressive. Will it improve? Maybe, but no for sures on that.

    Seems to me some of you who slam any posts that praise the West in HS hockey, go to great (and very similar arguements) lengths to uplift the NAHL. Go back and substitute "West" for NAHL and "East" for USHL and I bet you see some of your posts differently. As for an individual player moving from the USHL to the NAHL, could be lots of reasons. Homesick, misses friends, misses girlfriend, doesn't like being out of their "comfort" zone away from home, all of the above.

    I don't see Sioux/Gopher HS recruits who are not ready for UND or Minnesota being told to play in the NAHL for a year or two. Quite the opposite, they are sent to the USHL to become D-I ready.

    I simply went to www.nahl.com copy and pasted a link under "college commitment" and posted it. I beleive I also stated that the USHL is the the biggest pipeline to college hockey therefore supporting your argument. I beleive that even though some of the players are listed on the USDTP it is still a product of the North American Hockey League.

  3. I, for one, will not put the NAHL in the same catagory as the USHL. I do not think it is even close the number of WCHA, Hockey East or CCHA scholorship players currently on their rosters from the USHL compared to the NAHL.

    Also, Junior Hockey is a business. The owners are trying to make money by putting butts in the seats, so there is always a splattering of "local" talent to draw the fans. The rub is to mix that with the talent level necessary to win. Part of what that means is teams like F/M and Bismarck need some "locals" from ND to help attendance that might not otherwise be on those teams, so it might well skew your numbers even more, compared to USHL numbers where ND players are there strictly because of their talent level. My point is there are probably bubble players on the rosters of F/M and Bismarck from ND (or western Mn.). Maybe not, but I would suspect from the business side, there is. In the USHL that player would be from close to the team's home, if he's around at all.

    That means, in reality, there are 5 ND players from last year's class playing top notch, D-I recruited, Junior Hockey. You can look at it however you want, that is how I look at it.

    This is a list of former NAHL players recruited to plat college hockey( not all are Div.1) The USHL is the biggest pipeline to college hockey. Although the NAHL is sending more and more players each season.

    Billings Jeff Christiansen Union 06

    Billings Matt Becker Airforce 06

    Bismarck Jacques Lamoureux Airforce 06

    Bismarck Tim Krystosek Airforce 07

    Bismarck Eric Kattelus Michigan Tech 07

    Bozeman Ryan Bunger Michigan Tech 06

    Bozeman Josh Heidinger Canisius 06

    Bozeman Chris Mckelvie Bemidji 06

    Bozeman Brett Nylander Airforce 06

    Bozeman Brian Moore Bowling Green 06

    Bozeman Matt Dalton Bemidji 07

    Bozeman Graham McManamin Bemidji 06

    Bozeman Pete Fylling St. Norberts 06

    Cleveland

    Fairbanks

    Fargo Moorhead Kai Kantola Bowling Green 06

    Fargo Moorhead Phil Fox Northern Michigan 06

    Fargo Moorhead Ryan Cramer Bemidji 07

    Helena

    Mahoning Valley Chris Fairbanks Alambama Huntsville 07

    Mahoning Valley Ryan Zapolski Mercyhurst College 07

    Mahoning Valley Nathan Longpre Robert Morris 07

    Minnesota Chris Johnson Uconn 06

    North Iowa

    Santa Fe Brandon Johnson Airforce 06

    Santa Fe Alex Arnason St Thomas 06

    Santa Fe Phil Greer Bowling Green 06

    Santa Fe Andy Gevorkyan AIC 06

    Santa Fe Corey Stark Superior 06

    Santa Fe Brandon Vossberg Denver 06

    Santa Fe Brant Marple Northern Michigan 06

    Santa Fe Anthony Bohn Saint Mary's 06

    Southern Minnesota Jason Wiley Mankato 06

    Springfield Chris Conway Stevens Points 06

    Springfield David Nicoletti Alabama 06

    Springfield Paul Forselius Salve Regina 06

    Texarkana Riley Gill Western Michigan 06

    Texarkana Casey Haines Ferris State 06

    Texarkana Pat Knowlton Army 06

    Texarkana Pat Maroon Ferris State 06

    Texarkana Jason Weeks Canisius 06

    Texarkana Anthony Becker Canisius 07

    Texarkana Justin Johnson Michigan State 06

    Texarkana Aaron Lewicki Ferris State 06

    Texas Devin Stonehouse Canisius 06

    Traverse City

    USDTP

    Wasilla

    Wichita Falls Chris Ochoa Uconn 06

    NAHL 2004-05 College Commitment List

    Team First Last College Year

    Alpena Jeremy Barber Robert Morris 05

    Alpena Jake Hovick West Point 05

    Alpena Bobby Phillips Mercyhurst 05

    Alpena Paul Scalici Bentley College 05

    Alpena Kaleigh Schrock Neuman College 05

    Billings Jon Anderson UConn 05

    Billings Greg Flynn Air Force 05

    Billings Brian Kaufman Miami University 05

    Billings Mike Mayra Air Force 05

    Billings Mike Mayra Air Force 05

    Billings Matt Palmer Brown 05

    Bismarck Nick Bydal Stevens Point 05

    Bismarck Matt Koenig Stout 05

    Bismarck Clay Rehm St. Thomas 05

    Bismarck Nick Schneider UConn 05

    Bismarck Aaron Walski North Dakota 05

    Bozeman Brett Beckfeld Stevens Point 05

    Bozeman Nick Biondo Plattsburgh 05

    Bozeman Ross Johnson River Falls 05

    Bozeman Josh Kassel Army 05

    Bozeman Bill Leahy Army 05

    Bozeman Zack McKelvie Army 05

    Bozeman Josh Meyers River Falls 05

    Bozeman Brett Nylander Air Force 06

    Bozeman Jason Woll Milwaukee 05

    Central Texas Nick Larson AIC 05

    Cleveland Nick Biondo Ohio State 05

    Cleveland Jacob Cepis Bowling Green 05

    Cleveland Lukas DeLorenzo Penn State 05

    Cleveland Kirk Golden Hobart College 05

    Cleveland Bob Helminen Northern Michigan 05

    Cleveland Kurt Kivisto Michigan State 05

    Cleveland Patrick Schafer Ohio State 05

    Cleveland Matt Shouneyia Michigan State 05

    Cleveland Steve Silver Western Michigan 05

    Fairbanks Matt Jolly Alaska - Anchorage 05

    Fairbanks Jared Kaufmann Nebraska - Omaha 05

    Fairbanks Mike Phillipich Air Force 05

    Fargo Moorhead Todd Alexander North Dakota 05

    Fargo Moorhead Tom Dickhudt Bentley College 05

    Fargo Moorhead Lance Malark UConn 05

    Fargo Moorhead Chris Myhro UConn 05

    Fargo Moorhead Brent Olson Air Force 05

    Fargo Moorhead Dain Prewitt Bentley College 05

    Helena Doug Gebbie Utica 05

    Helena Eric Griffin AIC 05

    Helena Brandon Marino Bemidji State 05

    Helena Cory Mozak River Falls 05

    Helena Nate Rein Superior 05

    Helena Keith Roder AIC 05

    Helena Ryan Sullivan Finlandia University 05

    Helena Travis Whitehead Superior 05

    Helena Matt Woodward AIC 05

    Kewadin Indians Marty Gurnoe Lake State 05

    Kewadin Indians Ray Kaunisto Northern Michigan 06

    Minnesota Josh Frider Air Force 05

    Minnesota Ryan Hawkins UConn 05

    Minnesota Tim Manthly Army 05

    Santa Fe Brendon Bayers U Conn 05

    Santa Fe Luke Buetow Canisius College 05

    Santa Fe Chris Carlson Robert Morris 05

    Santa Fe Andrew Goberstein Bentley College 05

    Santa Fe Eric Dahlberg UConn 05

    Santa Fe Ryan Hatch Canisius College 05

    Santa Fe Andrew Johnson Bentley College 05

    Santa Fe Bryan Plaszcz Maine 05

    Spring Mo Sean Erickson UConn 05

    Spring Mo Matt Szypura River Falls 05

    Spring Mo Derek Kitti Michigan Tech 05

    Springfield IL Andy Cankar Stevens Point 05

    Springfield IL Jeff Gumear Bentley College 05

    Springfield IL Chris Johnson Dartmouth 05

    Springfield IL Ryan Klusendorf Canisius College 05

    Springfield IL Wes Russel Quinnipiac College 05

    Springfield IL Alex Seminov Merrimack University 05

    Springfield IL Matt Stendahl Stevens Point 05

    Texarkana Andrew Broughton Curry College 05

    Texarkana Pat Galivan Western Michigan 05

    Texarkana Eric Hansen River Falls 05

    Texarkana Jake Hanson Marion College 05

    Texarkana Ryan Olson Finlandia University 05

    Texarkana Matt Taurmina Providence 05

    Texas Ben Bishop Maine 05

    Texas Brad Cooper Providence 05

    Texas Matt Krug Wayne State 05

    Texas Tyler Ludwig Western Michigan 05

    Texas Nick Mazzolini Providence 05

    Texas Austin Miller Providence 05

    Texas Justin Liutf Bowling Green 05

    Texas Tom Train Alabama - Huntsville 05

    Texas Derek Punches Wayne State 05

    USDTP Jason Bailey Michigan 05

    USDTP Brett Bennett Boston University 06

    USDTP Michael Carmen Minnesota 06

    USDTP Dan Fardig Michigan 05

    USDTP Jimmy Fraser Harvard 05

    USDTP Jeff Frazee Minnesota 05

    USDTP Brandon Gentile Michigan State 05

    USDTP Nathan Gerbe Boston College 05

    USDTP David Inman Yale 06

    USDTP Jack Johnson Michigan 05

    USDTP Erik Johnson Minnesota 05

    USDTP Zach Jones North Dakota 05

    USDTP Phil Kessel Minnesota 05

    USDTP Jason Lawrence Boston University 05

    USDTP Kyle Lawson Notre Dame 05

    USDTP Zach Macvoy Michigan 05

    USDTP Jamie McBain Wisconsin 06

    USDTP Justin Mercier Miami University 05

    USDTP Mark Mitera Michigan 05

    USDTP Peter Mueller Minnesota 06

    USDTP Jack Skille Wisconsin 05

    USDTP Greg Squires Boston University 06

    USDTP Ryan Stoa Minnesota 05

    USDTP Brian Strait Boston University 06

    USDTP Chris Summers Michigan 06

    USDTP Bill Sweat Colorado College 06

    USDTP Andreas Valssopoulos Colorado College 05

    Wichita Falls Dan Dileo Cornell 05

    Wichita Falls Kevin Huck Minnesota 05

    Wichita Falls Nick Klaren Stout 05

    Wichita Falls Jack Wogemuth Stout 05

    Wichita Falls Derek Hansberry Stout 05

    Wichita Falls Evan Byers Eau Claire 05

    Wichita Falls Andy Roberts St. Mary's 05

    Wichita Falls Dave Lewendowski Wentworth 05

    Wichita Falls Brent Sarcone RIT 05

    Youngstown Anthony Canzoneri Bentley College 05

    Youngstown Evan Case Ferris State 05

    Youngstown Andrew Fiore Marian College 05

    Youngstown Rob Rassey Holy Cross 05

  4. In addition to those examples... Central had a kid who transferred from Bottineau (whose name escapes me now) on one of their championship teams in the early '90s, during the Jay Panzer era. I believe Central also had a Devils Lake transfer within the past 5 years or so. Somebody here who follows their program more closely than I do probably knows the names of the players I'm thinking of.

    I cant be positive, but I think the kid from Devils Lake was Keaton Wolf. Wasnt he a goalie, that ended up not playing, due to some kid named Lamoreaux? Again, I'm not positive on this info.

    EDIT: I just saw the post from 13UND2008, sorry for doubling up on the info.

  5. Don't know, from reading this thread, there appears to be a score of good goaltenders from ND this year. Hillman, Rosenthal, Kringstad, Deichert... and maybe a few others.

    My question is this: Has there been any other year where posters can say that there were more than 2 notable goaltenders for the season at the conclusion of the season? It seems to be that, whether it is a GF school or South, there seems to be one dominating goaltender a season. This year there are much more than that.

    I would agree, there were alot of good goaltenders this year. But the two goalies that stood out in my mind were Sean Deichert of Fargo South and Michael Hillman of Bismarck high. Deichert for his constant good play which can obviously be seen when looking at his statistics and Hillman for his great performances throughout the year( although i only saw his game at Fargo South and 2 of 3 games at state) and his also above par stats. Rosendahl was also up there as i watched him play 5 or 6 times as well as less mentioned Justin Welk. I beleive Tony Kringstad was "alright" throughout the year with a couple of good if not great games but i do not approve of his antics, regardless he still played very well throughout the year . The only difference between the top two goalies in the state this year is that Deichert played on a great team and Hillman did not . But i beleive that if Deichert were to play for a team like BHS he would also have some memorable games where if Hillman played for FSH he probably would have had much better statistics. I think that at the state tournament everything was as it should have been except for the Minot Central game.I am happy with the fact the South won it all and were very deserving of its title victory. Although i think Central would have had a better shot if Shane were in net against South in the semis. Either way a great year for high school hockey! and an Even Better year for Fargo Hockey!!!

    GO BRUINS!!

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