TheBisonator
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Hey DaveK, you said you would blow a gasket if the Bison won... Well did you???
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Game time 6:30 at Newman Outdoor Field. (if the rain stays away!!!!)
http://www.fightingsioux.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=205146536&DB_OEM_ID=13500
UND is 9-1 vs NDSU since 2003.
2010 N W, 10-6 (7)
2010 N L, 8-6 (7)
2010 N W, 3-1 (7)
2010 N W, 8-4 (7)
2005 A W, 6-0
2004 A W, 6-4
2004 A W, 2-1
2004 H W, 2-1
2004 H W, 5-2
2003 H W, 6-3
GO SIOUX!!!!
Bison laid a 2x4 on the Sioux today, winning 19-5.
This Bison team should have a much better record than they have. They've lost something like 10-11 games by 2 runs or less.
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The Montana schools have played D2 schools. Most schools have a doormat on their schedule. NDSU plays ST. Joseph school of hair design next year and they play Lafayette too. They have 2 doormats. It happens.
1) I will give you the St. Francis comment, as we had a home game lined up with Georgia Southern, but they decided to be bastards and weasel out of that game,
2) If you ever talk to a Lafayette fan on AGS, I will gladly give them this quote from you to read.
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And Hammersmith delivers the knockout punch...
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NDSU is notorious for over-hyping everything that happens on their campus. They call press conferences almost every day inj Fargo to announce that their going to be having a press conference. This whole conversation just illustrates how NDSU fans just can't get UND out of their system. They are obsessed with UND. Obviously the fact that UND is going to be in a conference through the transtion years has really hit a nerve in Fargo. You gotta love it!!!!!
Wow... You know absolutely NOTHING about NDSU, do you??
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Now you are making some valid points, but again to the general public in ND--like farmer Ted in Binford, ND--perception is not of polymers and coatings when it comes to academics but to law degrees and MD degrees. Not arguing with anything you mentioned above but when another Bison troll makes an agrument of perception, be realistic with the public in this state. Go to the local cafe in Bowman, ND and ask the locals about nanotechnology and you'll get this-- . Perception...different than reality. Again not right or wrong, but it is what it is. The law and med schools at UND have a higher academic perception than the architecture/engineering schools at SU. That is just the bottom line.
So UND leads the state in producing scheisters and ambulance chasers. Fine. NDSU can continue to pop out the architects and software engineers. That's OK with me.
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Moorhead high school hockey draws about as many people as Bison BB.
Bison men's basketball averages over 3,000 fans per game. I have never heard of a Moorhead hockey game getting that much.
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I don't think you have to go all the way to Bismarck to find a dislike for Fargo.
We can't help it that Fargo is the only civilized place in the state...
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BTW, one more thing: If all that UND fans have to smack at NDSU's football attendance is "Ha-Ha!! You guys only average about twice as much as us per game, but you should be averaging three times as much as us!! Naa-naa-na-boo-boo!!!", then I guess the situation at UND's football program is worse than I thought.
If you want to make fun of our men's basketball team for ONLY averaging 80 percent more per game than your men's team, please be my guest.
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Let's see. Fargo, Moorhead, and West Fargo have apopulation of 180,000. Grand Forks and East Grand Forks have a population of less than 60,00. We average just under 10,000 for football games. NDSU averages 16,000 for football games. By comparative populations we show up better than your residents do. And to top that...when you add up the numbers of people that pass through the gates at home games for Bison athletic events in Fargo in all their sports it isn't even close to the total that pass through the gates for Sioux games in Grands Forks. Oh that is right.. NDSU doesn't have Hockey. That is your problem. UND fans supports our programs better than NDSU fans. Our total ticket sales(which is larger than NDSU) are just divided over more sports.
*sigh*, I can't believe I'm wasting a few minutes of my time responding to this, but OK, if you insist...
Grand Forks Metro Area Population - GF/Polk counties (2007 estimate) - 97,691
UND football average attendance in 2007 - 9,887
9,887/97,691 = 10.12 percent of metro population
Fargo-Moorhead Metro Statistical Area Population - Cass/Clay counties (2007 estimate) - 192,417
NDSU football average attendance in 2007 - 18,141
18,141/192,417 = 9.43 percent of metro population
DIFFERENCE: LESS THAN 7/10 OF A PERCENT
(Never mind that Bison football averaged 8,254 more per game than UND last season.)
I now await your feeble attempt at spin to say I'm wrong. But the numbers don't lie.
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Put the Nickel on the table and we'll play you!
PLEASE do not listen to him, he does not speak for us!!!
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The Forum says otherwise cause they have an agenda.
And the Herald is in no way whatsoever a mouthpiece for the UND administration??
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Your statement doesn't hold a lot of water since, as you stated, both schools have virtually the same acceptance criteria. I just looked up both, and NDSU has a slightly lower standard SAT score for a high school student with a 2.5 GPA than UND does.
Average ACT scores are almost identical between both schools with NDSU at 23.0 and UND with 23.4 (the number I recall). Nobody takes the SATs in this part of the country. I couldn't even find a high school in the Twin Cities that offered an SAT test back in the late 90's. SAT's are irrelevent.
One could say maybe UND is receiving more applicants because people from ND high school students are tired of the Fargo arrogance that the city has shown at times.Thanks for giving me that good laugh!! I had a hard day today, and needed something to take the edge off.
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Kids realized they couldn't get into UND, so they applied to NDSU. That also explains UND's acceptance percentage edged back up a little, as those long shots simply didn't apply, as they had earlier.
UND and NDSU have identical acceptance criteria. It's been that way for a few years now. NDSU is not accepting any less-qualified students than UND is getting, because the criteria is the same. It's that UND is recieving a lot more applicants who are not qualified to be college students than NDSU. Obvuisly, that's why UND turns away more students. In fact, one could say that this is happening because lately, more of the less-successful HS students who are unsure of their college entry qualifications are now applying to UND thinking that it will be easier to get in there than NDSU.
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Congrats and best of luck to the Bison and the Jacks!
Thanks for the congrats, bin. I know UND is a lock for the GWFC in '09, and I hope (for the sake of the 95% of knowledgeable, classy Sioux fans like youself and not for the likes of DaveK) that you guys will also do North Dakota proud in your new football conference. You guys will have no problem whaling on the Yotes every year when you play them. Here's to the Bison and Sioux dominating the Jacks and Yotes for years to come in their respective conferences!!
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After what happened in Cedar Falls, I already have a pretty good idea who's better. If and when NDSU wants to continue being owned by us, we'll be happy to pick up where we left off in winning 10 of the last 13 games we played against them.
All smack talk aside, I honestly don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that NDSU wouldn't give us as tough a game as UNI gave us. After all, UNI was last year's D-1AA runner-up and ranked #3 nationally coming into the game. NDSU, after beating Montana as a non-playoff D2 team in 2003, has yet to beat a quality D-1AA opponent since moving up to D-1AA in 2004.
All things considered, this win just goes to show that I was right all along when I said that there is very little difference between the top teams in D2 and the top teams in D-1AA. I love being proven right, it feels soooooooo good.
You realize there's a such thing as being a sore winner, right??
As of now, I have counted 14 Sioux fans who were happy with their win and yet responded to my congratulations here, at AGS and at Bisonville with grace and class. You are the only one who hasn't done so.
Five percent, Dave. You're in the five percent.
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Thanks...a Sioux player just stated in a post-game interview that this win was above OR equal to beating NDSU.
We haven't forgotten where you live...see you down the road.
That kid needs to see what a Nickel battle is like.
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Until about three minutes ago, I did not want the Bison to play the Sioux for a LOOONG time. Now, as of three minutes ago, I want us to play each other again, and SOON. I want that Nickel Trophy back. UND wouldn't lie down and die for NDSU like us Bison fans thought they would (if the two teams ever played again) before this game. An NDSU/UND Nickel game would be a tough battle for either side. I want to see who's better.
Again, congrats.
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I gotta give you a lot of credit for how you played today. UND has a really good football team. I've been accused of smacking a lot in the past, and a lot of that is passion driven. (Hey, I'm an NDSU guy!!
) I generally don't like UND, and I'll say a lot of things to put down UND and Grand Forks in general, but as a human being, I feel obligated to give you a level of respect when you accomplish something. It's just being a good human being. Therefore, I tip my hat to you guys. UND has a very, very good football team. The thing I can take away from this is that you have solidified yourselves as a very serious candidate for the GWFC, and this gives us Bison fans a legitimate reason to schedule you in the future and take the Nickel back from you. Anyway, I want to end with some thought I had as I was listening to this game (I cut and pasted this on a couple other boards):
This game only reinforces my opinion further that NDSU and UND should've accepted the offer from the Big Sky Conference to join and play I-AA football back in 1978 when the conference was formed. Furthermore, this game ALSO reinforces my opinion that the recent 5-year transition rule for new DI teams that the NCAA has set up is inherently unfair, Mafia-like and even sadistic. If the NCAA has any common sense after this game, it would be to immediately shorten UND's transition to 3 or so years from 2007 to 2010 or so, and make NDSU playoff eligible right away in every sport.
If the NCAA had any modicum of decency in themselves, they would redo the transition rule on a sliding scale of how good a school already is in Division II.
Again, congratulations.
Bison fans, I recommend you all come here and congratulate them. They did it for us when we beat Wisconsin in hoops.
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Since UND outdraws NDSU in "bouncyball", apparently bison fans don't consider it a sport either.
That is incorrect, my friend.
2005 average home attendances:
NDSU: 2,488
UND: 2,279
Found here: http://www.ncaa.org/stats/m_basketball/att...ball_attend.pdf
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What all of you seem to be forgetting is that NDSU has a world-renowned architecture program. Our learning facilities are the envy of the national accredidation board for architecture education (NCARB). They visited our campus recently, and told us that they have never seen such quality facilities for an architecture school. I was always told that there are three humanistic professions in this world: Medicine, law and architecture. NDSU has one of them, and a highly respected one at that. There are a LOT of architecture grads from NDSU that are now making the kind of money that most UND lawyers, doctors and pilots would only dream of obtaining. I agree that both schools have their academic strong points. NDSU has architecture, engineering, pharmacy, agriculture and research, and UND has business, law, aviation, medicine and liberal arts. Both schools are North Dakota's twin flagship schools, the only difference is that one is in DI and one is in DII. I don't think that the seperation of athletics should turn this into a pissing match. Both universities are a lot more alike than you think.
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This is a dick length contest if I ever saw one. We should start calling this kind of thing "May talk", because it's the consequence of long periods of time in May/June with no new news about anything important, like UND's DI decision, football news, etc.
I mean seriously, WHO THE HELL CARES???
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That's is athletics bud, competition, competition, and more competition. NDSU shouldn't be pissed off because they should realize UND is out for the benefit of UND, not NDSU.
Fine. UND can look out for UND, that's fine. NDSU had no control over that. But don't expect NDSU to roll out the red carpet for UND. I expect NDSU will treat UND's matter exactly the same as UND handled NDSU's matter.
An eye for an eye, I say.
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No doubt bouncey-ball is bigger on a national level, but not within the state. Especially not within the Red River Valley. I realize there are some small towns that don't have varsity hockey teams, and bouncey-ball is naturally going to be more popular in those towns. I get that. But most of those towns have a population of less than a thousand. Those people who make up the Class B bouncey-ball following are few and far between. Hockey is king in places like Fargo, Grand Forks, Grafton, Minot, etc... A successful mid-major program at either NDSU or UND would get more attention from ESPN than our hockey program, but the hockey program would still dominate the local headlines and draw more fans. Hockey is simply more popular than bouncey-ball in this part of the country. Take the Gophers and Badgers, for example. ESPN gives their bouncey-ball programs 100 times more exposure than the hockey teams, yet the hockey teams remain the top story in the papers at Minneapolis and Madison on a yearly basis. Bouncey-ball is always going to take a backseat to hockey in places where it gets cold enough to make outdoor ice.
Dave, I lived in the Twin Cities for 12 years, and I can tell you for a fact that your statement about Gopher hockey being more popular than Gopher b-ball is completely 100% FALSE. B-ball headlines ALWAYS trump over hockey headlines in the Star Trib, local news, etc. when it comes to the Gophers during the regular sesaon. If the b-ball team misses the postseason, then the focus will switch over to the hockey's Final Five. Other than that, when the two are playing at the same time, the hockey team will NEVER, EVER get top billing over the basketball team.
More money problems with NDSU.
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