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6 minutes ago, petey23 said:

He said the part out loud that a "journalist" isn't supposed to say outloud.

when he says "We" need to tear the system down....who is the "We" he is referring to?

In their mind... "the vast majority of all people, obviously more educated, refined, and sophisticated then the neaderthal deplorables, who cling to their ainciet religion and guns, also all are hitler."

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1 minute ago, UNDBIZ said:

Not sure on age, but hospitalizations have gone from 50 on August 1 to 92 reported today.  7-day average number of deaths reported per day has gone from under 1 on August 1 to over 3 today.  I'm not blaming school or sports, but the virus may simply finally be making it's way through ND in a real way.  And before someone freaks out about me reporting the stats, no, I'm not advocating for a lockdown.

Those numbers reported today are interesting, although still context is needed before anyone leaps to wild reaction.

The next step is age breakdown, of those hospitalized how many 100s 90s 80s etc. etc. etc.

In burleigh a VAST MAJORITY of cases where coming from the Lutheran Slope care center... and if i read correctly darn near all of them.

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From the GFherald

https://www.grandforksherald.com/newsmd/coronavirus/6672939-Surge-in-COVID-cases-in-western-ND-nursing-homes-causes-concern 

Some 87 people in the state were hospitalized with COVID-19 on Monday, a record since the pandemic began. That’s more than double the number in late May, when daily active hospitalizations peaked at 40.

There have been just as many people in North Dakota in their 60s hospitalized with COVID as people in their 80s, and as many in their 50s hospitalized with the virus as people in their 70s, dispelling the notion that coronavirus only affects people who are elderly, Carson said.

September has become the deadliest month thus far in the pandemic for North Dakota, at 46 deaths with more than a week to go, surpassing those in August and in May

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1 hour ago, UND1983 said:

To be fair, its a bit of pressure applied by all to buy in. Nobody knows WTF is going on so they are all falling in line.  One word - LIABILITY.  Nobody wants to be the one that took a chance and had something happen, even though we keep waiting for all these dead bodies to pile up and it's behaving like every other virus.  

I agree with most of this, but the continued "excess deaths" disputes that this is just like every other virus. Since the week ending March 28, the death toll in the US has been above the threshold for excessive deaths for 22 weeks and counting. Will be interesting to see at some point if there is a large swing the other way.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

 

57 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

They are also looking at imposing more restrictions in Stockholm: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-22/sweden-could-introduce-restrictions-in-stockholm-after-uptick
They continue to be an interesting case study. Their economy ended up being impacted about the same as everyone else's and while their death toll is low as a comparison worldwide, it is still quite a bit higher than its neighboring countries. I'd also say that while they didn't have has as much for government mandated restrictions, the people there took the recommendations (social distancing/social gatherings/mask wearing) much more serious than we see around here.

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3 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

I agree with most of this, but the continued "excess deaths" disputes that this is just like every other virus.

"Excess deaths". 

In the CDC link it's defined as: "... the difference between the observed numbers of deaths in specific time periods and expected numbers of deaths in the same time periods."

So it's the "more than the expected" in that time period and expected would be based on history. 

But COVID-19 (a novel coronavirus; novel as in new) is a completely new player in the game, above and beyond everything from the expected. We'd expect what we had the year before. COVID-19 is by definition novel, an adder, to that expected. 

It's like fundraising*: We expect our usual annual donors to contribute X. Oh. Wait. What's this? A new donor contributing. "Excess" funds! 

Calling these "excess deaths" fails to admit COVID-19 is new (aka novel coronavirus) that will become part of baseline "expected numbers". 

COVID-19 is just part of a new baseline that we're now getting first year stats on. As they say, the new normal. 

Virus gonna virus. 

 

*Yes, using fundraising as a parallel is crass (and I humbly admit as much). 

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1 minute ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

I made that up as a joke, but I suppose it was a bit too believable. My bad

Butbutbut ... I sawer it on the interwebs so its gotzta be trues fur reals! 

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1 hour ago, Nodak78 said:

Don't know if its true.  But o'Reilly is gone.  Wonder what happened to Freddo at CNN

I made that up as a joke, but I suppose it was a bit too believable. My bad

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6 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

I made that up as a joke, but I suppose it was a bit too believable. My bad

I should have remembered that she never married.

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38 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

I agree with most of this, but the continued "excess deaths" disputes that this is just like every other virus. Since the week ending March 28, the death toll in the US has been above the threshold for excessive deaths for 22 weeks and counting. Will be interesting to see at some point if there is a large swing the other way.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

 

They are also looking at imposing more restrictions in Stockholm: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-22/sweden-could-introduce-restrictions-in-stockholm-after-uptick
They continue to be an interesting case study. Their economy ended up being impacted about the same as everyone else's and while their death toll is low as a comparison worldwide, it is still quite a bit higher than its neighboring countries. I'd also say that while they didn't have has as much for government mandated restrictions, the people there took the recommendations (social distancing/social gatherings/mask wearing) much more serious than we see around here.

Its the first year.  It appears to be fizzing out much like viruses do, even without a vaccine or any medication.

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16 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Its the first year.  It appears to be fizzing out much like viruses do, even without a vaccine or any medication.

Treatments of it are also getting significantly better which has also improved survival rates.

Point being, to say it is "acting like other viruses" when there has been significant uptick deaths above and beyond what is typical for almost 6 montsh running now is downplaying it a bit much. And that is with unprecendented steps that have been taken to slow the spread.  

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6 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Treatments of it are also getting significantly better which has also improved survival rates.

Point being, to say it is "acting like other viruses" when there has been significant uptick deaths above and beyond what is typical for almost 6 montsh running now is downplaying it a bit much. And that is with unprecendented steps that have been taken to slow the spread.  

In addition to the things you mentioned, early outbreaks were nearly exclusively among the population most vulnerable to this. As it makes it's way through the rest of us, the survival rate will continue to climb.

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1 minute ago, Bison06 said:

In addition to the things you mentioned, early outbreaks were nearly exclusively among the population most vulnerable to this. As it makes it's way through the rest of us, the survival rate will continue to climb.

Rates also depend on the denominator.  With increased testing that denominator is increasing, leading to an increase in the survival rate.

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1 minute ago, UNDBIZ said:

Rates also depend on the denominator.  With increased testing that denominator is increasing, leading to an increase in the survival rate.

And that is exactly what many of the logical among us were saying in April when the media was on it's fear world tour with their death rates of 4-5-6% 

The early numbers were skewed ridiculously high because the cases were mostly occurring in elderly people who are highest risk.

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A new sick and bizarre conspiracy theory for the cult to lap up and regurgitate.  

https://secondnexus.com/alex-jones-rbg-blood-sacrifice

Alex Jones Just Claimed That Democrats Let RBG Die as a 'Satanic' 'Blood Sacrifice' and Yeah, It's a Lot

Contradicting his own claims that Ginsburg had been dead for weeks, Jones said:

Look, the really sick math is [Democrats] had her on life support, they could keep her alive with adrenaline and growth hormone and blood transfusions, and it was her wish to go ahead and die to get the vote out as a blood sacrifice because her main mission was to get abortion. Blood sacrifice that [Senator Chuck] Schumer talked about, if you want a war, quit letting us have the blood of the babies, we need that satanic energy."

 

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18 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

A new sick and bizarre conspiracy theory for the cult to lap up and regurgitate.  

https://secondnexus.com/alex-jones-rbg-blood-sacrifice

Alex Jones Just Claimed That Democrats Let RBG Die as a 'Satanic' 'Blood Sacrifice' and Yeah, It's a Lot

Contradicting his own claims that Ginsburg had been dead for weeks, Jones said:

Look, the really sick math is [Democrats] had her on life support, they could keep her alive with adrenaline and growth hormone and blood transfusions, and it was her wish to go ahead and die to get the vote out as a blood sacrifice because her main mission was to get abortion. Blood sacrifice that [Senator Chuck] Schumer talked about, if you want a war, quit letting us have the blood of the babies, we need that satanic energy."

 

dang, you almost went a whole day without posting some nonsensical bullcrap.....try again tommorow

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48 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Rates also depend on the denominator.  With increased testing that denominator is increasing, leading to an increase in the survival rate.

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48 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

A new sick and bizarre conspiracy theory for the cult to lap up and regurgitate.  

https://secondnexus.com/alex-jones-rbg-blood-sacrifice

Alex Jones Just Claimed That Democrats Let RBG Die as a 'Satanic' 'Blood Sacrifice' and Yeah, It's a Lot

Contradicting his own claims that Ginsburg had been dead for weeks, Jones said:

Look, the really sick math is [Democrats] had her on life support, they could keep her alive with adrenaline and growth hormone and blood transfusions, and it was her wish to go ahead and die to get the vote out as a blood sacrifice because her main mission was to get abortion. Blood sacrifice that [Senator Chuck] Schumer talked about, if you want a war, quit letting us have the blood of the babies, we need that satanic energy."

 

Hell yeah Alex Jones is lit af

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2 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

Is that an Oscar Wilde quote? Haha

Lincoln

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23 hours ago, Hayduke1 said:

????

Can I get a gooneytunes translator? 

Biden...Joe Biden...but even you already knew that.

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It should read what children and cultists have learned from Trump.  Although, I suspect the cult came into their little group already with many of these traits. 

 

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This piece of garbage is going to go to jail for a very long time. 

 

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Just now, Goon said:

This piece of garbage is going to go to jail for a very long time. 

 

Good.  Seriously.  

Although you seem to get pretty worked up over it.  Take your meds. 

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1 minute ago, Hayduke1 said:

Good.  Seriously.  

Although you seem to get pretty worked up over it.  Take your meds. 

This Piece of garbage sent a chemical weapon to the president of the United States. I am applauding her arrest. Clam down Skippy. 

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