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12 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

One of those is a choice, the other is government mandated. You know that comparison doesn’t hold any water.

 

Being 100% upfront with the American public has nothing to do with a government mandate. 

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11 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

This 100%

The most exasperating aspect of politics nowadays (as reflected on this board) is blind adherence.  Any criticism towards a party is interpret as an attack from the opposing party.   

We've become a party over country entity.  

pretty rich statement coming from a lib

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3 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

Being 100% upfront with the American public has nothing to do with a government mandate. 

That’s not the point you were making. You were saying that “preppers” are hypocrites if they make fun of people who are for the precautions that have been taken for Covid. Some of those precautions weren’t made by choice and ruined lives. Not the same thing as personally preparing for unrest that most people believe will be worse in the weeks following the election, regardless of the outcome.

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6 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

pretty rich statement coming from a lib

Pretty typical statement coming from a cultist.

Also, don't assume that I don't like being called a liberal.  I'm fine with it.  No stigma to it.  What have conservatives ever done to make progress in this country?  Nada. 

Liberals/progressives are the change agents.  

Comservatives are the laggards.

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7 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Pretty typical statement coming from a cultist.

Also, don't assume that I don't like being called a liberal.  I'm fine with it.  No stigma to it.  What have conservatives ever done to make progress in this country?  Nada. 

Liberals/progressives are the change agents.  

Comservatives are the laggards.

What an ignorant statement.

Fiscal conservatism has kept capital in the hands of the innovators, private sector innovation in an infinite number of cases has progressed our country and the world forward for hundreds of years.

It’s a complete different paradigm for you I’m sure, but government isn’t the only way to advance society, in fact it’s a rather inefficient way, in my opinion. 

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9 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Pretty typical statement coming from a cultist.

Also, don't assume that I don't like being called a liberal.  I'm fine with it.  No stigma to it.  What have conservatives ever done to make progress in this country?  Nada. 

Liberals/progressives are the change agents.  

Comservatives are the laggards.

 

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20 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

pretty rich statement coming from a lib

 

We've officially entered bizarro-world when moderate conservatives and liberals are chastised and deemed 'never Trumpers' and/or 'no longer part of the party'; on both sides of the isle.  .  

People like you are part of the problem, not the solution.  Congrats.    

 

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1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said:

The problem with the cult isn't that they are anti-Trump, it is that they are pro-USA.  

Wait, so the party that wants to scrap the Constitution as we know it and start over is PRO-USA?

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40 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

We've become a party over country entity.  

As the resident libertar-conservative at USCHO (haven't haunted there in months) I said that and was heckled that only Rs do that. :D 

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3 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

What an ignorant statement.

Fiscal conservatism has kept capital in the hands of the innovators, private sector innovation in an infinite number of cases has progressed our country and the world forward for hundreds of years.

It’s a complete different paradigm for you I’m sure, but government isn’t the only way to advance society, in fact it’s a rather inefficient way, in my opinion. 

Wel, bizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzon.  Let me tell you something. 

True conservatives are also good for our country.  Liberals are early adapters, which at times isn't a good thing mainly due to the unintended consequences of that change.  True and reasonable conservatives can hold back change a bit so more of the consequences can be considered.  

Yes, liberals want more government oversight mainly because they see it as a tool for change.  Conservatives prefer the government leaves it alone due to the nature of oversight and chsnge. 

Right now, it is totally dysfunctional.  Mainly because the GOP trying to rig the system with voter suppression and gerrymandering.  The outdated Electoral College doesn't help either. 

This is an attempt to shove the will of the minority down the majorities' throat.  In 7 out of the last Presidential elections the vote went to the Democrats.  It did not reflect that in governance.  

If it contonues without a correction, it will spiral even further out of control.  That correction will hopefully occur in November. 

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11 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

Wait, so the party that wants to scrap the Constitution as we know it and start over is PRO-USA?

Really? 

Scrap it?  

LMFAO. 

Too much vodka, da? 

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1 minute ago, Hayduke1 said:

The outdated Electoral College doesn't help either. 

This is an attempt to shove the will of the minority down the majorities' throat. 

You've heard the story of democracy where two wolves and a lamb vote on what's for lunch, yes? 

That's why the Electoral College.

 

Without the EC, well, a national candidate would only have to go here.

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3 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Wel, bizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzon.  Let me tell you something. 

True conservatives are also good for our country.  Liberals are early adapters, which at times isn't a good thing mainly due to the unintended consequences of that change.  True and reasonable conservatives can hold back change a bit so more of the consequences can be considered.  

Yes, liberals want more government oversight mainly because they see it as a tool for change.  Conservatives prefer the government leaves it alone due to the nature of oversight and chsnge. 

Right now, it is totally dysfunctional.  Mainly because the GOP trying to rig the system with voter suppression and gerrymandering.  The outdated Electoral College doesn't help either. 

This is an attempt to shove the will of the minority down the majorities' throat.  In 7 out of the last Presidential elections the vote went to the Democrats.  It did not reflect that in governance.  

If it contonues without a correction, it will spiral even further out of control.  That correction will hopefully occur in November. 

Change what?  What is it that the libs want besides POWER.

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32 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Pretty typical statement coming from a cultist.

Also, don't assume that I don't like being called a liberal.  I'm fine with it.  No stigma to it.  What have conservatives ever done to make progress in this country?  Nada. 

Liberals/progressives are the change agents.  

Comservatives are the laggards.

 

6 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Wel, bizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzon.  Let me tell you something. 

True conservatives are also good for our country.  Liberals are early adapters, which at times isn't a good thing mainly due to the unintended consequences of that change.  True and reasonable conservatives can hold back change a bit so more of the consequences can be considered.  

Yes, liberals want more government oversight mainly because they see it as a tool for change.  Conservatives prefer the government leaves it alone due to the nature of oversight and chsnge. 

Right now, it is totally dysfunctional.  Mainly because the GOP trying to rig the system with voter suppression and gerrymandering.  The outdated Electoral College doesn't help either. 

This is an attempt to shove the will of the minority down the majorities' throat.  In 7 out of the last Presidential elections the vote went to the Democrats.  It did not reflect that in governance.  

If it contonues without a correction, it will spiral even further out of control.  That correction will hopefully occur in November. 

You don't ever make a lick of sense. You make a completely asinine statement and then when confronted with the obvious folly of your statement you completely go on a tangent that has nothing to do with your original statement.

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5 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

You've heard the story of democracy where two wolves and a lamb vote on what's for lunch, yes? 

That's why the Electoral College.

 

Without the EC, well, a national candidate would only have to go here.

The electoral college only exists because of slavery.

Period. 

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3 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

 

You don't ever make a lick of sense. You make a completely asinine statement and then when confronted with the obvious folly of your statement you completely go on a tangent that has nothing to do with your original statement.

From the mind of a cultist.  Color me surprised. 

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1 minute ago, Hayduke1 said:

The electoral college only exists because of slavery.

Period. 

This one again huh? Beyond ridiculous.

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Just now, Hayduke1 said:

From the mind of a cultist.  Color me surprised. 

Cowardly as usual.

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5 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

As the resident libertar-conservative at USCHO (haven't haunted there in months) I said that and was heckled that only Rs do that. :D 

Lol its definitely true of both sides. I'm perfectly fine admitting it because at this point, when I see where it looks like the Democrat Party is going, it is not a United States but a European socialist state. 

I imagine that more moderate Democrats are less afraid of that, because they either A.) Believe that doesn't sound so bad, or B.) Believe they will adequately extinguish that wing of the party and maybe they are right.

Meanwhile, many Dems probably look at the GOP and see some nonsense from the Handmaid's Tale or something and think "well I'd rather take just about anything else" even if it means voting for some absolute loons. Meanwhile the typical Republican laughs at that thought because its absurd.

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8 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

This one again huh? Beyond ridiculous.

Actually, as a cultist you are beyond ridiculous.  You also do not seem to possess any critical thinking skills.  Which helps make you the perfect tool for Trump.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/electoral-college-racist-origins/601918/

Behind Madison’s statement were the stark facts: The populations in the North and South were approximately equal, but roughly one-third of those living in the South were held in bondage. Because of its considerable, nonvoting slave population, that region would have less clout under a popular-vote system. The ultimate solution was an indirect method of choosing the president, one that could leverage the three-fifths compromise, the Faustian bargain they’d already made to determine how congressional seats would be apportioned. 

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Just now, Hayduke1 said:

Actually, as a cultist you are beyond ridiculous.  You also do not seem to possess any critical thinking skills.  Which helps make you the perfect tool for Trump.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/electoral-college-racist-origins/601918/

You are misinterpreting facts. To state something is “because” of slavery implies that the slavery is the cause of it. This is simply not the case.

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19 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

You are misinterpreting facts. To state something is “because” of slavery implies that the slavery is the cause of it. This is simply not the case.

But it is.  Slavery determined the 3/5 compromise.  This in turn determined that a direct election of the president would not be acceptable by the southern slave states because those in bondage could not vote.  The electoral college solved that problem. 

Interesting how property per the later Dred Scott decision counted toward representation. 

These are facts. Not opinion.  

But, you've been processed by years of BS to disbelieve the truth.  Even the UND history department used to tell us the BS about the Civil War was not really about slavery.  What a load of crap.

Believe whatever you want, not my problem.

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19 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Actually, as a cultist you are beyond ridiculous.  You also do not seem to possess any critical thinking skills.  Which helps make you the perfect tool for Trump.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/electoral-college-racist-origins/601918/

Behind Madison’s statement were the stark facts: The populations in the North and South were approximately equal, but roughly one-third of those living in the South were held in bondage. Because of its considerable, nonvoting slave population, that region would have less clout under a popular-vote system. The ultimate solution was an indirect method of choosing the president, one that could leverage the three-fifths compromise, the Faustian bargain they’d already made to determine how congressional seats would be apportioned. 

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Poor little butthut Soyboy. Gonna be a 6-3 majority and there aint a damn thing you can do about it. lol

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3 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

The electoral college only exists because of slavery.

Period. 

let's play a game where we assume the electoral college exists because of slavery. In this world we agree that it was formed in order to get slave states to agree to enter the union.

Now tell me why we shouldn't have it. Slavery is gone, so its not like it is upholding America's original sin anymore. As far as I can tell, all it does now is requires politicians to craft a message that can appeal to voters throughout nearly every part of the country. Most of the swing states have substantial urban and rural populations so you get a nice cross section of the country in those places too of you afe into that sorta thing.

Complaining about the E.C though isn't going to get you anywhere. Learn to play the game. It has some basic rules and they aren't hard to learn. You are probably the same type or dude who changed the rules to board games when you were younger because you didn't like losing...many kids do that...most grow out of it eventually though. 

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