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15 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

Looks like I hit a nerve with the good ole boy contingent.  Yeee Ha!       

Jokes aside, here's a good everyday example of white privilege.  It has nothing to do with the government, or even how hard one works.  It just highlights how ingrained prejudice is and how it skews access to wealth nowadays....... 

 

2 resumes, with the same credentials, are sent out to numerous employers.   One has the name Eric O'Neill, the other Darnell Jefferson.    Eric O'Neill's resume will receive more callbacks. 

 https://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

 

This is the epitome of white privilege.  

Fair point.
So then when minorities in positions of power are encouraged to hire other minorities(see the recent kickback the nets players received for choosing a white guy) what should we call that?

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20 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

Looks like I hit a nerve with the good ole boy contingent.  Yeee Ha!       

Jokes aside, here's a good everyday example of white privilege.  It has nothing to do with the government, or even how hard one works.  It just highlights how ingrained prejudice is and how it skews access to wealth nowadays....... 

 

2 resumes, with the same credentials, are sent out to numerous employers.   One has the name Eric O'Neill, the other Darnell Jefferson.    Eric O'Neill's resume will receive more callbacks. 

 https://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

 

This is the epitome of white privilege.  

 

If you read through it the disparity existed even in diverse neighborhoods.....which would imply even minority managers/owners prefer not to hire minorities all other things considered.....why is that?  (I'll hang up and listen to your response). 

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Although something tells me that I could have Bill Gates business qualifications and if I started sending in resumes to various Cedar street businesses in Minneapolis that I might not be getting the deserved call back either. 

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56 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

 

If you read through it the disparity existed even in diverse neighborhoods.....which would imply even minority managers/owners prefer not to hire minorities all other things considered.....why is that?  (I'll hang up and listen to your response). 

 

This just further proves my point that a stigma is attached to the minority job applicant; across the board.  As the link details, this is typically the result of an employer's perception that race signals lower productivity.        

Again, a fully credentialed black job applicant is fighting an uphill battle compared to his/her white counterpart as it pertains to obtaining wealth.    

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24 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Fair point.
So then when minorities in positions of power are encouraged to hire other minorities(see the recent kickback the nets players received for choosing a white guy) what should we call that?

 

Doing as such is 100% illegal.       But as that link detailed, even black employers are subject to hiring whites over blacks.  

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41 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

Looks like I hit a nerve with the good ole boy contingent.  Yeee Ha!       

Jokes aside, here's a good everyday example of white privilege.  It has nothing to do with the government, or even how hard one works.  It just highlights how ingrained prejudice is and how it skews access to wealth nowadays....... 

 

2 resumes, with the same credentials, are sent out to numerous employers.   One has the name Eric O'Neill, the other Darnell Jefferson.    Eric O'Neill's resume will receive more callbacks. 

 https://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

 

This is the epitome of white privilege.  

Ummm...thats a character in a movie who cared very little about academics.  Which is why he got less callbacks.

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29 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

Doing as such is 100% illegal.       But as that link detailed, even black employers are subject to hiring whites over blacks.  

Sure it’s technically illegal, but then why are sports personalities openly criticizing Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving for signing off on a white guy?

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2 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said:

 

Hmmm. I was under the impression they hadn't pursued cases previously for some reason. Why didn't they stick?

 

From a cursory search, the government pursued cases against Trump but they were relatively intermediary infractions; so they didn't bring the hammer down.  Looks like he pleaded guilty in a civil case and agreed to a few non-prosecution agreements.    Interestingly, one was for Civil Rights Act violation for not renting to blacks.:whistling:  

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1 hour ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

This just further proves my point that a stigma is attached to the minority job applicant; across the board.  As the link details, this is typically the result of an employer's perception that race signals lower productivity.        

Again, a fully credentialed black job applicant is fighting an uphill battle compared to his/her white counterpart as it pertains to obtaining wealth.    

Maybe it is time for some soul searching instead of always trying to find someone else to blame when even people from your own community would rather hire an outsider.  

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1 hour ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

This just further proves my point that a stigma is attached to the minority job applicant; across the board.  As the link details, this is typically the result of an employer's perception that race signals lower productivity.        

Again, a fully credentialed black job applicant is fighting an uphill battle compared to his/her white counterpart as it pertains to obtaining wealth.    

Once again, you dodged the question.  Why is it that even minority business owners seem to shy away from hiring other minorities?  After all, aren't white people the only racists in this country?  That's the only racism the media ever reports.

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3 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

Maybe it is time for some soul searching instead of always trying to find someone else to blame when even people from your own community would rather hire an outsider.  

 

Now you're moving the goalposts.  

Why white privilege exists is a separate topic from the innate fact that it does exist.   You initially denied the latter, but now you're talking about the former.     

 

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4 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

Now you're moving the goalposts.  

Why white privilege exists is a separate topic from the innate fact that it does exist.   You initially denied the latter, but now you're talking about the former.     

 

Lol yeah right nice try.  So your argument is that if person "A" purposely performs at less than their potential...that person "B" who does do what they are supposed to do and is successful has "privilege"?  Are you serious?  It's not privilege it's called earning what you have.  There comes a point that you are what your record says you are.

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16 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

Lol yeah right nice try.  So your argument is that if person "A" purposely performs at less than their potential...that person "B" who does do what they are supposed to do and is successful has "privilege"?  Are you serious?  It's not privilege it's called earning what you have.

 

Quit being difficult.   Show me where I said that.       

Everybody should be judged on their own individual merit.  Blacks frequently aren't.  They are judged on the stereotype of the whole.   Hence why Sara McKenzie will receive more call backs than Shaneeka Jones despite having the exact same resume.  

White privilege.      

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2 hours ago, TheFlop said:

Although something tells me that I could have Bill Gates business qualifications and if I started sending in resumes to various Cedar street businesses in Minneapolis that I might not be getting the deserved call back either. 

Curious, where do you wanna work on cedar?

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3 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

Quit being difficult.   Show me where I said that.       

Everybody should be judged on their own individual merit.  Blacks frequently aren't.  They are judged on the stereotype of the whole.   Hence why Sara McKenzie will receive more call backs than Shaneeka Jones

White privilege.      

You said it in your own words, possibly without even realizing it.  

Btw you still haven't addressed why business owner/manager Laquanda Jackson would rather hire Sara McKenzie rather than Shaneeka Jones.  

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Back in topic.....public service announcement to Oxbow......yet another free mass testing event on the UND campus at the high performance center Tuesday.  Test early and test often. 

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6 hours ago, TheFlop said:

You said it in your own words, possibly without even realizing it.  

Btw you still haven't addressed why business owner/manager Laquanda Jackson would rather hire Sara McKenzie rather than Shaneeka Jones.  

 

I already answered that in an above post.  

 

But regardless, it's good to see you acknowledging that white privilege exists, because you're now justifying the reasons for it.      

So let me get this straight.  Because whites are, on average, more educated and the perception exists that we're harder workers, whites therefore are entitled to white privilege?   

Sounds more like you're describing white power.  But whatever.  

   

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13 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

Back in topic.....public service announcement to Oxbow......yet another free mass testing event on the UND campus at the high performance center Tuesday.  Test early and test often. 

Testing will set us free. 

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31 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

Back in topic.....public service announcement to Oxbow......yet another free mass testing event on the UND campus at the high performance center Tuesday.  Test early and test often. 

Yup.........rope a dope.

Line 'em up. Get some positives. Do contact tracing. Then quarantine those individuals for two weeks. 

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17 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

I already answered that in an above post.  

 

But regardless, it's good to see you acknowledging that white privilege exists, because you're now attempting to justify the reasons for it.      

So let me get this straight.  You're now saying that because whites are, on average, more educated and the perception exists that we're harder workers, whites therefore have earned the right to have white privilege?   

Sounds more like you're justifying white power to me.  But whatever.  

   

No, just wondering why there isn't an acknowledgement that no one race is more racist than another......but the only racism that gets any attention is white on black.  

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26 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

I already answered that in an above post.  

 

But regardless, it's good to see you acknowledging that white privilege exists, because you're now justifying the reasons for it.      

So let me get this straight.  That whites are, on average, more educated and the perception exists that we're harder workers, whites therefore have earned the right to have white privilege?   

Sounds more like you're describing white power to me.  But whatever.  

   

You don't get it...but nice try. Minorities being in positions of authority to even make the decision on which candidate to hire throws your white privilege argument out the door 

I have this mythical privilege but someone without that privilege is in a position to deny me a job?

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6 hours ago, TheFlop said:

No, just wondering why there isn't an acknowledgement that no one race is more racist than another......but the only racism that gets any attention is white on black.  


White on black crime receives more attention because of demographics.  Racism negatively affects blacks more than it does whites.  Tyranny of the majority.  I mean, in the larger picture, we're not far removed from Jim Crow.    

But this will likely subside in the next 20+ years when demographics shift.   We're seeing this with the Generation Z kids growing up in a more welcoming multi-cultural environment.  But old habits die hard.  

 

The future America is what many Trumpsters are fighting against.  The cultural implications of what a future America will look like isn't gonna resemble 'traditional cultural America' in the way many Rep's see it.  
 

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14 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

You don't get it...but nice try. Minorities being in positions of authority to even make the decision on which candidate to hire throws your white privilege argument out the door 

I have this mythical privilege but someone without that privilege is in a position to deny me a job?

 

Quit being obtuse.    It just means minorities in a position of power are propagating white privilege in some ways.   

 

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1 minute ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

Quit being obtuse.    It just means minorities in a position of power are propagating white privilege in some ways.   

 

 

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