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23 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

If it means Donald Trump gets re-elected? Be honest.

If he could fix this, sure. He’s dug himself quite the hole to get out of though.

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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:

What does it matter what they would do? They are not in charge and have no say into how we are handling the pandemic. I agree politics have made this a mess, almost every one of trump’s statements or decisions on the pandemic have been politically motivated, even when most of them have killed his chance at re-election.

So it’s only Trump politicizing the pandemic? This is why nobody can take you seriously. 

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2 minutes ago, SiouxCrioux1 said:

So it’s only Trump politicizing the pandemic? This is why nobody can take you seriously. 

So, you believe in false equivalencies?This is why nobody can take you seriously. 

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1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said:

These cities weren't burning to the ground.  

More lies repeated by the cult.

 

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15 minutes ago, zonadub said:

 

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With so many lies from Trumpsters, it's hard to even know if this is true.   It starts with their fuhrer.  

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2 hours ago, Hayduke1 said:

Antifa isn't what Trump and the rest of the paranoid right try to espouse.  

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/6/8/21277320/antifa-anti-fascist-explained

Kind of like believing in The Deep State and putting forth Quanon conspiracy theories.  

Paranoid delusions. 

Black Lives Matter – this is the group Antifa collaborates with the most frequently

https://www.influencewatch.org/movement/antifa/

Maduro and BLM leader

 

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1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said:

With so many lies from Trumpsters, it's hard to even know if this is true.   It starts with their fuhrer.  

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I watched Minneapolis burn with my own eyes, no conspiracies.

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Yale epidemiologist says hydroxychloroquine is 'the key to defeating COVID-19'

 

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An Ivy League epidemiology professor is claiming that Hydroxychloroquine — the drug that has been at the center of a politicized medical debate for the last several months — is "the key to defeating COVID-19," and that medical officials should be widely prescribing it to save the lives of thousands of coronavirus patients. 

Harvey Risch, a professor of epidemiology at Yale as well as the director of that school's Molecular Cancer Epidemiology Laboratory, argues in a Newsweek op-ed this week that "the data fully support" the wide use of hydroxychloroquine as an effective treatment of COVID-19. 

"When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective," Risch argues in the column. 

Hydroxychloroquine has been the subject of a bitter and protracted political argument for the past several months, after President Trump in mid-March said the drug was showing promising effects in treating COVID-19. Media outlets and commentators shortly thereafter began touting numerous stories of the drug's alleged fatal dangers as well as its reported ineffectiveness in treating the disease.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, dynato said:

Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's Connection, Explained

Do this picture next with that same logic

 

Sorry it doesn't work.

 

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24 minutes ago, dynato said:

Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's Connection, Explained

Do this picture next with that same logic

 

I thought “whataboutisms” were evil and racist and opposed by the left. 

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California's Got The Most Coronavirus Cases, Yet the Media Keeps Bashing Red States

 

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I'm not going to get into the weeds of these numbers and the way that Wuhan Virus cases are counted in general. The numbers that the media is using position California as having a worse crisis than any of the red states, especially Florida, that the media has been hounding. And yet the way that the media covers the pandemic in California and Florida or Texas is dramatically different.

If having a large caseload is evidence of a failure of governance, a position that the media takes in red or reddish states like Florida, then why has the coverage of Governor Newsom's actions been so totally uncritical. And considering the epicenter in Los Angeles County, can't the media find any policies by government officials to criticize? Surprisingly they can't. Yet the same media that gives Newsom a pass has been frantically hammering DeSantis. But you know they're following the science. The political science.

If we had anything resembling honest and objective coverage of this crisis, it would begin with an admission that there's still a lot we don't know and that different parts of the country may be seeing spikes at different times. This artificial wartime narrative in politicians get praised for getting the virus under control (at least if they're the governors of blue states where the virus wiped out enough of the elderly and vulnerable nursing home populations) while red state governors get blasted for not getting it under control is fake. And that's even without taking issue with the reporting methodology or any of the deeper criticisms of the tallies.

 

 

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5 hours ago, SiouxForever said:

Give 5 examples on what Biden or Hilary won’t have done differently in the situation. 

Enlighten me.

Easy to put blame in an unprecedented time  Leadership as a whole hasn’t been great. Politics has made this a mess  

 

I would be interested in this as well. Dr. Fauci said in mid April that President Trump followed every suggestion that Dr. Fauci and his team recommended. 

So what plan would Hillary and Biden have implemented to go against what Fauci and his team recommended?

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1 hour ago, Bison06 said:

I thought “whataboutisms” were evil and racist and opposed by the left. 

 

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1 hour ago, dynato said:

Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's Connection, Explained

Do this picture next with that same logic

 

Two rich guys that ran in the same circles in the 90's. 

Eventually had a 1 way falling out over the actions of 1 of them leading to him being banned from the others properties.

I know libs would like to see Trump caught up in what comes out from the Maxwell case it she stays alive long enough. 

The SDNY was sitting on the case and trying to squash it but libs seem to think that Trump would in effect remove and replace those at the SDNY with prosecutors that would move the case forward if he was caught up in it himself. 

Brilliant logic.

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33 minutes ago, sioux rube said:

 

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#epsteindidntkillhimself

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32 minutes ago, homer said:

So per capita works when comparing states but doesn’t work when comparing countries.  Got it. 

You really aren't helping the other cult members out at all.

 

The USA is at #4 and rising.  This data is based on 2.6 million cases reported July 1st.  We are over 4 million now. 

 

Got it?

 

Another set of stats show that in deaths per million, we are in the top 10.  

That could rise also.

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/21176/covid-19-infection-density-in-countries-most-total-cases/

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54 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

You really aren't helping the other cult members out at all.

 

The USA is at #4 and rising.  This data is based on 2.6 million cases reported July 1st.  We are over 4 million now. 

 

Got it?

 

Another set of stats show that in deaths per million, we are in the top 10.  

That could rise also.

 

https://www.statista.com/chart/21176/covid-19-infection-density-in-countries-most-total-cases/

Are all countries counting deaths the same as the US?  

Positive cases vs amount of tests.  No country has tested nearly as much as US has.  That’s not a bad thing

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12 minutes ago, homer said:

Are all countries counting deaths the same as the US?  

Positive cases vs amount of tests.  No country has tested nearly as much as US has.  That’s not a bad thing

Tests overall, yes.  That appears to be true.  However, it hasn't been done in a manner to actually give good data for health experts to determine a true, nationwide course of action.  That needs to happen.

Tests per capita, we are #4.

 

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For the people that think that Portland Riots are peaceful demonstrations check out these tweets. i

Andy is a brave reporter that has done a good job covering Antifa in Portland. 

This is an assault, several agents, mostly peaceful, eh?

Yep, peaceful. 

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