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2 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

Elementay school at full capacity would be like putting all local daycares into one.

Maybe you haven’t seen some of the daycares, my kids’ day care is the size of about 3-4 full sized class rooms and has 250 kids.

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1 minute ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

Don't be so paranoid. 

Hahaha

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4900+ "positives" 20 and under in MN. One death. Do the math.

Zero deaths in ND.

Where is the "trust the science and data" crowd???

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18 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

4900+ "positives" 20 and under in MN. One death. Do the math.

Zero deaths in ND.

Where is the "trust the science and data" crowd???

Okay, now do every age bracket over 20 

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3 minutes ago, dynato said:

Okay, now do every age bracket over 20 

How about you do some critical thinking and respond with some reasonable answers/solutions instead of avoiding the conversation by derailing it?

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5 minutes ago, dynato said:

Okay, now do every age bracket over 20 

So the teachers are controlling whether school and sports come back? 

Or is it "all it takes is one kid to spread it and every teacher, parent and Grandma in the county gets sick"

 

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Just now, SiouxBoys said:

How about you do some critical thinking and respond with some reasonable answers/solutions instead of avoiding the conversation by derailing it?

You are so close to getting the point lol

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8 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

f*ck you for judging me and pretending you cared about a someone most of UND hated and couldn't wait to get rid of.

If you care about someone who REALLY gave to UND go here...

https://www.gofundme.com/f/dewwdu-caring-for-a-caregiver?utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link-tip

 

and F*CK you again judgy aholeQ

Dodging the question again.  Textbook labeling someone a racist with zero to back it up.  We will accept your non answer as an admission that you were wrong.  Moving on.

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11 minutes ago, dynato said:

Okay, now do every age bracket over 20 

Do 70+ year olds make up a majority  of individuals in a school setting? 50+? 40+? Not sure what your point is. Again that logic would have every healthcare system shutdown by noon.

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15 minutes ago, dynato said:

Okay, now do every age bracket over 20 

That would just drive home the point even more.  Younger healthy people aren't at any meaningful risk 

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15 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

So the teachers are controlling whether school and sports come back? 

Or is it "all it takes is one kid to spread it and every teacher, parent and Grandma in the county gets sick"

 

Asking for a friend does a "positive" equate to "sick"???

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2 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

So the teachers are controlling whether school and sports come back? 

Or is it "all it takes is one kid to spread it and every teacher, parent and Grandma in the county gets sick?"

 

You can put words in my mouth all you want. Still no answers to the questions I asked. They are the questions that need to be answered if you want school to happen. It is not just a function of the health and safety of the students, majority will be fine and recover. It is a function of the teachers and adults who are surrounding the children. People who would be tough to replace if they quit or die due to changing and poor work conditions. 

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8 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

That would just drive home the point even more.  Younger healthy people aren't at any meaningful risk 

Are all teachers young healthy people with limited meaningless risk? 

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3 minutes ago, dynato said:

Are all teachers young healthy people with limited meaningless risk? 

Here we are back to the narrative, “if it’s saves one life”.

Why did we decide that it’s ok to lock down normal life to protect such a small minority, when an infinitely more logical solution is to protect and isolate the vulnerable?

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16 minutes ago, dynato said:

You can put words in my mouth all you want. Still no answers to the questions I asked. They are the questions that need to be answered if you want school to happen. It is not just a function of the health and safety of the students, majority will be fine and recover. It is a function of the teachers and adults who are surrounding the children. People who would be tough to replace if they quit or die due to changing and poor work conditions. 

You are stealing from the ND Teachers Union, which obviously wants all 100 of their questions addressed before they will come back.  Which is quite literally impossible and they know it.  

 

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6 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

Here we are back to the narrative, “if it’s saves one life”.

Why did we decide that it’s ok to lock down normal life to protect such a small minority, when an infinitely more logical solution is to protect and isolate the vulnerable?

Again, I'm not with that save one life narrative. I think everyone needs to go back to work and that we should isolate the sick and vulnerable. I'm also on the side where isolating the sick and vulnerable means we as a community need to proceed with caution during this health pandemic. People are going to die, it's all calculated risk in the end. 

As I mentioned in my first post on critical thinking, 20% of teachers are over 55. They are at the most risk of dying. What does isolating the vulnerable mean in this case? Firing any teacher over 55 who doesn't want to teach in person? Good luck with that message. Replacing/protecting 20% of your vulnerable workforce is no easy task either way.

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36 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

Dodging the question again.  Textbook labeling someone a racist with zero to back it up.  We will accept your non answer as an admission that you were wrong.  Moving on.

I doubt it.  :silly:

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1 hour ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

 FOX News

Houston consulate was epicenter of research theft by China, State Department says

According to abc news people reported smoke coming from the building on Tuesday. When went to investigate they were burning documents. 

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17 minutes ago, Vegas_Sioux said:

According to abc news people reported smoke coming from the building on Tuesday. When went to investigate they were burning documents. 

My brother in law UND '75 lives in Houston, claims his neighbor saw the smoke. 

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38 minutes ago, dynato said:

Are all teachers young healthy people with limited meaningless risk? 

So you have no problem with grocery store workers and others being put in harm's way but not teachers?

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18 minutes ago, dynato said:

Again, I'm not with that save one life narrative. I think everyone needs to go back to work and that we should isolate the sick and vulnerable. I'm also on the side where isolating the sick and vulnerable means we as a community need to proceed with caution during this health pandemic. People are going to die, it's all calculated risk in the end. 

As I mentioned in my first post on critical thinking, 20% of teachers are over 55. They are at the most risk of dying. What does isolating the vulnerable mean in this case? Firing any teacher over 55 who doesn't want to teach in person? Good luck with that message. Replacing/protecting 20% of your vulnerable workforce is no easy task either way.

How about asking those teachers how they feel, are they comfortable coming back? Some will some won’t. Use the teachers that want to stay home as the virtual teachers for the time being and let everyone who is comfortable get back to it. When back, take extra precautions.

masking, hand washing, no school assemblies, lunch in the classrooms instead of in mass gatherings in one space. Use the gyms, one nice days utilize outdoor spaces. Utilize empty commercial space in the communities. The list is endless of what could be done. It seems as though many are looking for problems when they should be thinking of solutions, there are so many ways to get the kids back to school.

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44 minutes ago, dynato said:

Are all teachers young healthy people with limited meaningless risk? 

Newsflash, picking an occupation where you will be surrounded by 20-30 booger picking kids all day might not be the best field if you have a compromised immune system.  This is nothing new.  What is new is that many of those teachers got a taste of working from home.

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