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20 minutes ago, wxman91 said:

 

The post with multiple likes.

Bars, salons, fitness centers in AZ or CA and such.  Is that what's it pertaining to?

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1 hour ago, UND1983 said:

Bars, salons, fitness centers in AZ or CA and such.  Is that what's it pertaining to?

I don't know.  The businesses that are shut down are mainly in the same types of industries and have a common denominator of being places where people typically congregate inside in close proximity to each other.  There is no inherent bias against small businesses.

There has been some theorizing out there that any future rescue attempts should be very focused on the industries that are hurting the most, such as bars & restaurants and entertainment.  Obviously, that also trickles to commercial real estate.

What I don't understand is the call by some to lower the payroll tax.  The big problem right now is unemployment, not the people who have jobs.

 

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5 hours ago, wxman91 said:

I don't know.  The businesses that are shut down are mainly in the same types of industries and have a common denominator of being places where people typically congregate inside in close proximity to each other.  There is no inherent bias against small businesses.

There has been some theorizing out there that any future rescue attempts should be very focused on the industries that are hurting the most, such as bars & restaurants and entertainment.  Obviously, that also trickles to commercial real estate.

What I don't understand is the call by some to lower the payroll tax.  The big problem right now is unemployment, not the people who have jobs.

 

This is correct as of today, but in April and May your first paragraph wouldn’t have been accurate, at least in Minnesota.

Walmart, Target and other big box retailers weren’t forced to close down, while mom and pop retailers were forced closed.

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On 7/12/2020 at 10:56 AM, Cratter said:

Has the production of N95 masks ramped up?

Still cant find any at my big box home improvement store.

Why aren't those being pushed more.

How much more protection does that give than a thin "face covering" that only catches large particulates being expelled and doesnt do any filtering like a N95.

Easy way to save lives. Especially when some of the ever conflicting evidence shows you can get it just from breathing indoor air not even from a surface or being close to anyone.

One can buy the chinese equivalent of a N95 mask called the KN95.

They seem to be pretty prevalent. 

Menards worker was wearing one today.

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On 7/6/2020 at 11:22 AM, Cratter said:

Am I really to believe there is no more coronavirus in Manitoba? Or virtually none?

 

North Dakota: 5,000 tests a day.

Manitoba: 850

Manitoba population: 1.4 million

North Dakota population: 760,000

No wonder they have coronavirus "under control."

 

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Manitoba: Barely test anyone.

Texas: Put people who never took a test under the confirmed positive case count.

 

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14 hours ago, TheFlop said:

And doesn't fit the narrative so you'll never hear anything more about it unless you go out looking for updates.  White guy that got an education, followed the rules and wasn't constantly breaking the law or hurting people, finally hits the finish line only to be snuffed out by two teenagers in an inner city weeks later.

and your point by pointing out the suspects are black is.....?   It's called street crime.   Happens by and TO people all over the US every day - opportunity - a old couple walking early in the morning.   An easy pick but something went south and he was shot.  Very sad - too bad ALSO he was basically run out of UND.   Way to go haters - happy now? 

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14 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

Typical lazy reporting by the Herald. No context or full disclosure of details.

There is no more "Herald" - it's all controlled and printed by the FOOL'UM now.   Please address your grievances to them

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In a recent interview Fauci praised the state of NY in its handling of the coronavirus to date........"They did it correctly ".

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8 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

and your point by pointing out the suspects are black is.....?   It's called street crime.   Happens by and TO people all over the US every day - opportunity - a old couple walking early in the morning.   An easy pick but something went south and he was shot.  Very sad - too bad ALSO he was basically run out of UND.   Way to go haters - happy now? 

Right on.  Race has no significance in our society at the moment.  

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27 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

In a recent interview Fauci praised the state of NY in its handling of the coronavirus to date........"They did it correctly ".

Correctly by continuous fear and killing many in nursing homes. Basically, abiding to the narrative and plan. 

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9 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

and your point by pointing out the suspects are black is.....?   It's called street crime.   Happens by and TO people all over the US every day - opportunity - a old couple walking early in the morning.   An easy pick but something went south and he was shot.  Very sad - too bad ALSO he was basically run out of UND.   Way to go haters - happy now? 

I dunno.....for some reason it mattered and was very well publicized that the cop that killed George Floyd was white....but when two black people kill a white guy the races of the offender are sanitized.  Just wondering why there isn't any consistency?

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10 hours ago, gfNDfan said:

and your point by pointing out the suspects are black is.....?   It's called street crime.   Happens by and TO people all over the US every day - opportunity - a old couple walking early in the morning.   An easy pick but something went south and he was shot.  Very sad - too bad ALSO he was basically run out of UND.   Way to go haters - happy now? 

It's called retirement.  He was 60+ years old, did you expect him to work forever?

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On 7/17/2020 at 11:31 AM, Hayduke1 said:

I see.  

 

So, non citizens, despite any evidence at all except for Trump's blathering, are voting in numbers high enough to elect Democrats to office?

Yeah, you're in a cult dude. Enjoy your fantasy world.

I prefer living as a citizen in the real world.

 

You misunderstand again, I didn’t say Biden would win because illegal voters

Left wing trying to put words in our mouths

fake news Again

if Democrats win they want open borders, for non citizens to vote, for felons to vote

why is this, because they would be democrat voters

i guess instead of illegal aliens we need to call them undocumented democrats 

and there you go again calling me names, I’m a citizen and not a cult dude, understand?

 

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13 hours ago, Cratter said:

Manitoba: Barely test anyone.

Texas: Put people who never took a test under the confirmed positive case count.

Shouldn’t count non-tested people. Hospitalizations/positive is lower than the official number. But doesn’t change that the count is significantly higher than reported. 

My daughter was tested C19 positive last week. (fever, respiratory issues for 9 days). She caught it from her husband who got it from his sister while visiting his mom and sister, who got it from sister’s daughter who caught it from her father on his rotation day.

Of that grouponly  three were tested (the father, his daughter, and my daughter. All are sick but no point for the other 3 to test unless they hospitalized. It’s common for only one family member in the same household to test. Same with a circle of friends. 

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1 hour ago, Kab said:

You misunderstand again, I didn’t say Biden would win because illegal voters

Left wing trying to put words in our mouths

fake news Again

if Democrats win they want open borders, for non citizens to vote, for felons to vote

why is this, because they would be democrat voters

i guess instead of illegal aliens we need to call them undocumented democrats 

and there you go again calling me names, I’m a citizen and not a cult dude, understand?

 

No.  A cult member.  Thanks for clarifying. 

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7 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

No.  A cult member. 

Duke have we met on another board that was focused on a very good football team?

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2 minutes ago, CarpeRemote said:

Duke have we met on another board that was focused on a very good football team?

Probably not. 

I dont follow very good football teams.  Just UND and Wyoming.  Lol.  They are good, but not very good. 

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The reason why people on the left are so comfortable calling Trump-supporters cultists is precisely because of things like your post.  You parrot talking points that I’m sure you got from the right-wing media without any critical thought at all into the issues.  
 

Open borders - can you point to the legislation or party platform calling for this?  Sure, there are thought pieces around, but this is actually a Libertarian, small-government argument.

Non-citizens voting - again, point to the legislation or party platform.  There are some places in the country that allow non-citizen voting in municipal elections, but that is not being proposed at state or national levels.

Felons voting - the main thrust of this has been regarding those that have served their sentence.  In FL the voters overwhelmingly voted for this (including many Rs), but the state legislature has gone against the will of the voters.  Some think that incarcerated felons should be able to vote.  Somewhere along the line we as a country decided that was a right that could be taken away.  Not everyone believes in that.

So, to your main point, there is a lot more depth to these issues than you make it seem.  And the idea that Democrats are importing people to make them D voters is indeed “fake news”.

1 hour ago, Kab said:

You misunderstand again, I didn’t say Biden would win because illegal voters

Left wing trying to put words in our mouths

fake news Again

if Democrats win they want open borders, for non citizens to vote, for felons to vote

why is this, because they would be democrat voters

i guess instead of illegal aliens we need to call them undocumented democrats 

and there you go again calling me names, I’m a citizen and not a cult dude, understand?

 

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38 minutes ago, wxman91 said:

The reason why people on the left are so comfortable calling Trump-supporters cultists is precisely because of things like your post.  You parrot talking points that I’m sure you got from the right-wing media without any critical thought at all into the issues.  
 

Open borders - can you point to the legislation or party platform calling for this?  Sure, there are thought pieces around, but this is actually a Libertarian, small-government argument.

Non-citizens voting - again, point to the legislation or party platform.  There are some places in the country that allow non-citizen voting in municipal elections, but that is not being proposed at state or national levels.

Felons voting - the main thrust of this has been regarding those that have served their sentence.  In FL the voters overwhelmingly voted for this (including many Rs), but the state legislature has gone against the will of the voters.  Some think that incarcerated felons should be able to vote.  Somewhere along the line we as a country decided that was a right that could be taken away.  Not everyone believes in that.

So, to your main point, there is a lot more depth to these issues than you make it seem.  And the idea that Democrats are importing people to make them D voters is indeed “fake news”.

Did you not see the democratic primary debates when nearly every candidate(including Biden) raised their hand when they asked if they were for illegal immigrants being able to vote and free healthcare?

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