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6 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

No, no, no. What would have been best is to make EVERYONE lock down and shutter their businesses to stop the spread.

Yep.  You know it sounds ridiculous when you say it out loud.....but that is exactly what is happening.  Amazing the number of people that can't take a step back and see the craziness of it all.

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36 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Did Fauci advocate for locking down all those who were homosexual as to stop the spread during that time period?

No but HIV wasn’t spread through the air. Did he not recommend protected sex? Was there a group of right wingers promoting unprotected sex and sharing needles?

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1 hour ago, Nodak78 said:

Not sure which paper is worse?  Forum or Bismarck Trib.

Might be time for a Billboard again.

Quite awhile back I remember a few businessmen in Bismarck put up Billboards on I-94 just as you were coming to the Bismarck exits that read something along the lines of 

"Welcome to Bismarck! Please judge us by the quality of our people and not by the quality of our newspaper."

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COVID hospital patients in ND and MN trending lower.

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1 hour ago, Bison06 said:

I've been wondering this since the beginning when shutdowns started to happen. What is the end game here, how does this ever actually end?

The bar they have set for safety is so high that how does life ever get back to "normal"? New viruses won't stop existing, they will pop up from time to time and then we do this all over again?

Will we respond differently next time? This all can't happen again.

As a business owner, I can tell you my motivation to take risks and expand has been vastly reduced as a result of this. My business can be shut down at any point, what benefit is there to put my neck on the line if it can all be taken away from me tomorrow.

This all has just made me incredibly sad for the future as this has been an awful precedent to set.

You bring up a really good point. Are we going to shut down the economy and lock everything down every time we have a new virus? We didn't do this for the Swine Flu. I don't think that humanity can't survive if we do this again. People need to feed their families. This pandemic has been used as a power grab. Meaning, I think some political leaders have assumed powers they don't have.

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Teachers unions in California are demanding Medicare for all

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Overall COVID-19 intensive care mortality has fallen by a third

 

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The review, led by the University of Bristol and Royal United Hospitals Bath NHS Trust published today in Anaesthesia, a journal of the Association of Anaesthetists, also shows ICU mortality for the disease is similar across the three continents included: Europe, Asia and North America.

“The important message is that as the pandemic has progressed and various factors combine, survival of patients admitted to ICU has significantly improved. There were no significant effects of geographical location, but reported ICU mortality fell over time. Optimistically, as the pandemic progresses, we may be coping better with COVID-19,” said lead author Professor Tim Cook, Honorary Professor in Anaesthesia at the University of Bristol and Consultant in Anaesthesia and Intensive Care Medicine at Royal United Hospitals Bath NHS Foundation Trust.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:

No but HIV wasn’t spread through the air. Did he not recommend protected sex? Was there a group of right wingers promoting unprotected sex and sharing needles?

I'm sure there were some early days of the disease when they weren't sure exactly how the disease was spread. Out of abundance of caution they should have forced people into their homes and forced all non-essential businesses closed.

Once they found out it was spread through intercourse, a prudent course of action would have been to force people all men to walk around with condoms on and force women to wear a diaphragm over their cervix.

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9 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:

No but HIV wasn’t spread through the air. Did he not recommend protected sex? Was there a group of right wingers promoting unprotected sex and sharing needles?

Another weak example.  I believe that the right wingers response was that those that were affected or could easily be affected should take precautions.....i.e. personal responsibility.....look up the concept.  There weren't mandates flying around that even people at no risk (husband and wife for example) had to wear rubbers when they got it on. 

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NFL will place players who test positive for COVID-19 on IR for three weeks

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Per a league source, the league intends to change the injured reserve rules to create a COVID-19 classification. Players who test positive will be placed on the COVID-19 list for three weeks, creating a roster spot that would then be filled with a player who is negative for the virus.

The players on the COVID-19 list would be paid their normal salaries.

It’s unclear what will happen if a player on the COVID-19 list can’t return after three weeks, at which time he will be eligible to return to practice. He must be returned to the active roster within three weeks after that, or he will revert to IR (absent an injury settlement).

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

I'm sure there were some early days of the disease when they weren't sure exactly how the disease was spread. Out of abundance of caution they should have forced people into their homes and forced all non-essential businesses closed.

Once they found out it was spread through intercourse, a prudent course of action would have been to force people all men to walk around with condoms on and force women to wear a diaphragm over their cervix.

There is a lot of similarity in how they used fear porn and spread a lot of false and exaggerated information with regards to HIV transmission and AIDS as well.

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8 minutes ago, Kab said:

Teachers unions in California are demanding Medicare for all

Another shocker...……..CA can't secede from the rest of the union fast enough. 

STFU and get back in the classroom and do your job.

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1 hour ago, Hayduke1 said:

This is just getting boring now.  

Maybe the Trump cult here should start ratcheting up the talk about "The Deep State"?

That might help!

If the trump supporters are a cult what does that make the Biden supporters ?

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13 minutes ago, Kab said:

Teachers unions in California are demanding Medicare for all

So heroic, it's all about educating the next generation with these teachers.

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I don’t care if they are union teachers

during school just teach

in their off time do whatever the hell they want

just don’t indoctrinate kids on school time 

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10 minutes ago, Kab said:

If the trump supporters are a cult what does that make the Biden supporters ?

Um....

Citizens voting to replace Trump with Biden.

You don't know that?

 

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Someone posted this earlier. This is why I don't trust the numbers. 

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ORLANDO, Fla. - A person who died in a motorcycle accident was added to Florida’s COVID-19 death count, according to a state health official.

FOX 35 News found this out after asking Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino whether two coronavirus victims who were in their 20s had any underlying conditions. One of his answers surprised us. 

“The first one didn’t have any. He died in a motorcycle accident,” Pino said.

Dr. Pino was asked if the man’s data was removed.

“I don’t think so. I have to double-check,” Pino said. “We were arguing, discussing, or trying to argue with the state. Not because of the numbers -- it’s 100…it doesn’t make any difference if it's 99 -- but the fact that the individual didn’t die from COVID-19…died in the crash. But you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash. I don’t know the conclusion of that one.”

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Another shocker...……..CA can't secede from the rest of the union fast enough. 

STFU and get back in the classroom and do your job.

One of the largest teachers unions in the state of California, the United Teachers Los Angeles with 35,000 members, says public schools in the Los Angeles Unified School District should not reopen if certain policies are not implemented on the state and national level, including defunding the police and implementing Medicare for All.

The union called on local authorities to "keep school campuses closed when the semester is scheduled to begin on Aug. 18."

The union’s demands listed in a recently released policy paper include implementing a moratorium on charter schools, defunding the police, increasing taxes on the wealthy, implementing Medicare-for-All, and the U.S. Senate and President Donald Trump approving House Democrats’ HEROES Act, which allocates an additional $116 billion in federal education funding to states.

 

Tell me again what this has to do with safety concerns.

 

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2 minutes ago, petey23 said:

One of the largest teachers unions in the state of California, the United Teachers Los Angeles with 35,000 members, says public schools in the Los Angeles Unified School District should not reopen if certain policies are not implemented on the state and national level, including defunding the police and implementing Medicare for All.

W.T.A.F.??? Some of these places have lost their mind. 

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Top HHS official says ‘most’ of the Coronavirus transmission is from asymptomatic people

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Most transmission of the coronavirus is coming from people who are asymptomatic and never develop any symptoms, a top official from the Department of Health and Human Services said Friday. 

“Just feeling like you want to go get a test is really not the best strategy, but we know that most of the spread are from asymptomatic people, particularly young adults, so you have to cast a wide net and I think we’re able to do that,” Adm. Brett Giroir, the assistant secretary for HHS, said in an interview on CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said:

Um....

Citizens voting to replace Trump with Biden.

You don't know that?

 

As long as it’s citizens but if Biden wins then you will have non citizens voting 

amazing if you like trump you are in a cult’ if you like Biden you are a citizen

do you understand ?

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53 minutes ago, TheFlop said:

Another weak example.  I believe that the right wingers response was that those that were affected or could easily be affected should take precautions.....i.e. personal responsibility.....look up the concept.  There weren't mandates flying around that even people at no risk (husband and wife for example) had to wear rubbers when they got it on. 

So how would personal responsibility apply to the thousands of asymptomatic covid carriers today?

 

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49 minutes ago, Kab said:

If the trump supporters are a cult what does that make the Biden supporters ?

They don't exist. There are Trump supporters and people who don't like Trump. No such thing as Biden supporters. 

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