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32 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:

What numbers were inflated? If you look at what was inflated they were making the death and hospitalization rate look much lower than it actually was by throwing in 30,000 tests that were not performed. 
 

Some standards set by the whites house here could have gone a long way. 

I thought Trump was a fascist dictator. He doesn't seem to be doing much for such a controlling nazi. Maybe the states can do something themselves?

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17 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

I thought Trump was a fascist dictator. He doesn't seem to be doing much for such a controlling nazi. Maybe the states can do something themselves?

At least he will wear a mask now if the time and place is right.

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CDC just came out and said their "best estimate" is that 40% of those infected with COVID are asymptomatic.

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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:

It is shameful, if only we had some leadership from our government as to how to handle a pandemic. Yet here we are fumbling the ball worse than most third world countries.

Yet most in those third world countries would give everything they have to come here.  Care to trade spots with them?  Everyone does exactly what their govt says and according to you they handle Covid better.  You’d be safe.  

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6 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

CDC just came out and said their "best estimate" is that 40% of those infected with COVID are asymptomatic.

Add in those with only mild symptoms and that number doubles.  

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2 hours ago, Redneksioux said:

It is shameful, if only we had some leadership from our government as to how to handle a pandemic. Yet here we are fumbling the ball worse than most third world countries.

Have you ever familiarized yourself with the 10th Amendment? States rights? Stories like this are all on the individual state. it has nothing to do with big orange man bad. 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-02/error-led-to-overcount-of-coronavirus-testing-in-orange-county

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1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

CDC just came out and said their "best estimate" is that 40% of those infected with COVID are asymptomatic.

So, we "should" be approaching herd immunity? 

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39 minutes ago, Goon said:

Have you ever familiarized yourself with the 10th Amendment? States rights? Stories like this are all on the individual state. it has nothing to do with big orange man bad. 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-02/error-led-to-overcount-of-coronavirus-testing-in-orange-county

So since the federal government failed to come up with uniform standards, it’s on the individual states for not counting covid testing in a uniform manner. Got it. Not sure what this mistake proves other than covid response in this country has been a $hit show.

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1 hour ago, homer said:

Yet most in those third world countries would give everything they have to come here.  Care to trade spots with them?  Everyone does exactly what their govt says and according to you they handle Covid better.  You’d be safe.  

Typical. Don’t like how things are going, why don’t you leave the country. No thanks I’ll vote.

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Just now, Redneksioux said:

Typical. Don’t like how things are going, why don’t you leave the country. No thanks I’ll vote.

why try to turn the USA into Canada when Canada right there?  why turn Texas into California when California is right there?

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3 minutes ago, Redneksioux said:

Care to elaborate?

I think we'll all defer to Fauci on this one...….. :silly:

 

But on the topic of "science" is Walz still anticipating the 20000+ deaths from the revised, revised, revised, revised data and science his models are giving him?

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4 hours ago, 1972 said:

let me try to explain this one more time....n95 mask will protect the person wearing them, but does nothing to protect the general public.  they are designed to filter air intake, and have a valve in them to completely expell exhausted air. so if you have covid, and are wearing an n95 mask in public, you are not doing anything

Obviously talking non exhalation valve n95.

The n95 not only filters when breathing in but obviously catches my man sneezes just as good as my tshirt pulled over my mouth and nose.

We know they aren't they aren't perfect but they reduce the viral load and have a greater change of preventing someone from catching the virus.

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4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

I think we'll all defer to Fauci on this one...….. :silly:

How? He’s been sidelined!

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10 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

I think we'll all defer to Fauci on this one...….. :silly:

I just spit pop all over my monitor as I read that. :) 

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24 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

I think we'll all defer to Fauci on this one...….. :silly:

I mean, 4 1/2 months ago we were also told "the 15 cases, within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,  that's a pretty good job we've done". But I guess if we wouldn't have tested, we would never know about the 3.3+ million confirmed cases the have shown up since then.

The experts have openly admitted they are learning as they go, with it being a novel virus and all that should be expected. They have missed the mark plenty, but they aren't afraid to admit that and adjust their thinking as new information becomes available. Kind of like they are following the whole science process. Fauci has also been clear he's not giving economic advice, his opinions come from the public health perspective and those in charge need to weigh their decision making with other factors.

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16 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

I mean, 4 1/2 months ago we were also told "the 15 cases, within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero,  that's a pretty good job we've done". But I guess if we wouldn't have tested, we would never know about the 3.3+ million confirmed cases the have shown up since then.

The experts have openly admitted they are learning as they go, with it being a novel virus and all that should be expected. They have missed the mark plenty, but they aren't afraid to admit that and adjust their thinking as new information becomes available. Kind of like they are following the whole science process. Fauci has also been clear he's not giving economic advice, his opinions come from the public health perspective and those in charge need to weigh their decision making with other factors.

That statement is laughable really. Guarantee most schools and universities won't be open in this country in a few weeks. That's not following the science. Kids under 14 have a greater risk of death from the flu. If teachers are afraid to go into the classroom to teach go find a different career. I'm still waiting for some expert to come forward to say that if you are under 60 years of age and in good health your risk of mortality from Covid is less than from _______________. (fill in the blank as there are lots of right answers)

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1 hour ago, Redneksioux said:

Typical. Don’t like how things are going, why don’t you leave the country. No thanks I’ll vote.

Point still stands.  Everyone else is doing it better but no one would leave here and nearly everyone from there would come here.   

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5 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Although I'd like schools to reopen as well, if the bold text above happens, then who will teach the kids?  Most schools are already struggling to find quality teachers.

who will teach the kids?....how about non-pussys

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1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

who will teach the kids?....how about non-pussys

As enlightening as ever.

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23 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Although I'd like schools to reopen as well, if the bold text above happens, then who will teach the kids?  Most schools are already struggling to find quality teachers.

If those preaching the fear porn have their way...……..you and all the other parents out there.  Yet all the teachers out there who don't won't to go back into the classroom won't have any problem seeking care from those within the medical community, who are at a vastly higher risk, if need. Personally I find that hypocritical since the kids have almost no risk of transmitting the virus.

Visit with any educator in ND or western MN and almost to a person they'll tell you online learning doesn't work for elementary and secondary schooling.

 

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20 minutes ago, homer said:

Point still stands.  Everyone else is doing it better but no one would leave here and nearly everyone from there would come here.   

Maybe the black lives matter folks should just leave the country too eh? 

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