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1 hour ago, TheFlop said:

Lol, keep telling yourself that.  He keeps doing what he wants when he wants and the left just can't stop crying.  He's not always right but the inability of his opponents to be the bigger person is laughable.....and it's precisely what's gonna get him re-elected. 

 

What planet are you on?   Trump's inability to do anything is gonna get him slaughtered at the polls.  He’s so incompetent he can’t stop putting his foot in his mouth. The Dems are loving it, they don’t have to do anything other than stash decrepit Biden away and let Trump self-destruct.   Buy, scratch, win!

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37 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

What planet are you on?   Trump's inability to do anything is gonna get him slaughtered at the polls.  He’s so incompetent he can’t stop putting his foot in his mouth. The Dems are loving it, they don’t have to do anything other than stash decrepit Biden away and let Trump self-destruct.   Buy, scratch, win!

Ah yes....the polls.  Wait until November.  The silent majority is waiting in the wings again, just like 2016.

Once again, the Dems just needed to throw someone normal up and they would win with ease....and they failed. 

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On 7/4/2020 at 6:16 AM, wxman91 said:

And yet, no rebuttal. Fascinating.

 

People can explain things to you but, all the crayon in the world will not help you understand.

We blame your parents.

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Oops.

CDC says positive Covid19 test might just mean you've previously had a common cold.

 

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On 7/3/2020 at 12:12 PM, wxman91 said:

You’ve said a lot of words, but what is your plan?  Go back to pre-ACA days?  You want to subsidize rural hospitals more?  Why?  
 

The fundamental question that came up while reading your posts was this - do you think access to healthcare should be related to wealth?

The core tenets of the ACA were capping payer profit on fully insured products, guaranteeing coverage with pre-existing conditions, setting minimum benefit requirements, establishing a public marketplace, and mandating coverage.  Esoterically, they facilitated these things with actuarial requirements which I won’t get into.  You can argue the cost/benefit of each one and it’s importance by region. For example, Minnesota already had guaranteed coverage via a high-risk pool.  Funded by a premium tax.  Coverage mandate and minimum benefits impacted consumer choice and premium pricing (More benefits, more expensive coverage).    MLR- well 2/3 of the market is self-insured or Medicare.
 

I don’t want to subsidize rural hospitals more, I just don’t want them to shut down. They are employment and economic drivers as well as their role in providing care.  I don’t want to wait in line for months or drive 400 miles for a knee scope.

Do you know what drives health related bankruptcies in this country? Hint: it isn’t the medical bills.  It’s all the other bills that pile up when a person is hospitalized and can’t work.  The indigent have care and coverage via Medicaid- they have for decades.  The elderly have it from Medicare.  Commercial plans have maximum out of pocket amounts.  If you aren’t breaking the individual mandate, then who doesn’t have coverage?

The debate here has never been about healthcare, it’s about who pays for it.
 

the system isn’t perfect, but it’s far better than politicos give it credit for.  If you get really sick is there another country you’d rather receive care in? I wouldn’t.

The margins in healthcare and health insurance are tiny.  The industry employs tons of people all over the income spectrum- high school educated single moms working the call centers all the way to sub-specialist surgical MDs.

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Frankly I care little about daily positives other than the percent. 

Tell me about hospitalizations and deaths (raw numbers and percents please). 

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16 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Frankly I care little about daily positives other than the percent. 

Tell me about hospitalizations and deaths (raw numbers and percents please). 

Bingo

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1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Frankly I care little about daily positives other than the percent. 

Tell me about hospitalizations and deaths (raw numbers and percents please). 

Dude, that doesn't fit the narrative of COVID-19 very bad, and big orange man bad. :) 

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6 hours ago, yzerman19 said:

The core tenets of the ACA were capping payer profit on fully insured products, guaranteeing coverage with pre-existing conditions, setting minimum benefit requirements, establishing a public marketplace, and mandating coverage.  Esoterically, they facilitated these things with actuarial requirements which I won’t get into.  You can argue the cost/benefit of each one and it’s importance by region. For example, Minnesota already had guaranteed coverage via a high-risk pool.  Funded by a premium tax.  Coverage mandate and minimum benefits impacted consumer choice and premium pricing (More benefits, more expensive coverage).    MLR- well 2/3 of the market is self-insured or Medicare.
 

I don’t want to subsidize rural hospitals more, I just don’t want them to shut down. They are employment and economic drivers as well as their role in providing care.  I don’t want to wait in line for months or drive 400 miles for a knee scope.

Do you know what drives health related bankruptcies in this country? Hint: it isn’t the medical bills.  It’s all the other bills that pile up when a person is hospitalized and can’t work.  The indigent have care and coverage via Medicaid- they have for decades.  The elderly have it from Medicare.  Commercial plans have maximum out of pocket amounts.  If you aren’t breaking the individual mandate, then who doesn’t have coverage?

The debate here has never been about healthcare, it’s about who pays for it.
the system isn’t perfect, but it’s far better than politicos give it credit for.  If you get really sick is there another country you’d rather receive care in? I wouldn’t.

The margins in healthcare and health insurance are tiny.  The industry employs tons of people all over the income spectrum- high school educated single moms working the call centers all the way to sub-specialist surgical MDs.

Thank you for the reply.  Prior to the ACA 46M people were uninsured.  Currently, that number is around 28M.  There are a variety of reasons for this, but the majority is the cost for coverage for those above the Medicaid limit is not realistic even with subsidies.  

For rural hospitals, if a market solution is that there isn't enough demand to keep them around, should they exist?  I'm fine with subsidizing them to make sure that people have realistic access to health care, but there has to be acknowledgement of the government's role.  I would note that of the rural hospital closures since 2010, a large majority have been in states that have refused Medicaid expansion.

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1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Frankly I care little about daily positives other than the percent. 

Tell me about hospitalizations and deaths (raw numbers and percents please). 

This site has nice visualizations of the data:  https://covidtracking.com/data

You can also drill into the states.

 

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ACA is an issue for prescription drugs IIRC.  My uncle pharmacist tried to explain to me why the price was so high for a drug.  Cant quite remember why but caps were lifted on pricing for certain classes I believe.  Maybe somebody on here could clarify?

I just remember being stunned by the price.  

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Am I really to believe there is no more coronavirus in Manitoba? Or virtually none?

 

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6 children killed this weekend by gunfire in NYC and Chicago. All 6 kids were..............black.

#BLM

#defundthepolice

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54 minutes ago, wxman91 said:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/06/immunity-to-coronavirus-is-fragile-and-short-lived-expert-warns.html

This would certainly put a dent in The Sikatoka's herd immunity plan.  Hopefully this concept is proven wrong and the immunity is sustainable.

He used “probably” and “potentially” when giving his opinion as an expert.  

The one question he did agree on is what had been stated here many times, most vulnerable stay at home and least at risk get back to work and school.  

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15 minutes ago, homer said:

He used “probably” and “potentially” when giving his opinion as an expert.  

The one question he did agree on is what had been stated here many times, most vulnerable stay at home and least at risk get back to work and school.  

And wear masks.

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51 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

6 children killed this weekend by gunfire in NYC and Chicago. All 6 kids were..............black.

#BLM

#defundthepolice

and all 6 of the shooters were/are......._________

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55 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

6 children killed this weekend by gunfire in NYC and Chicago. All 6 kids were..............black.

#BLM

#defundthepolice

We are almost at the point where some cities have more daily gun deaths than covid deaths.

Might be safer wearing a bullet proof vest than ppe.

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