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The only people who need to be tested are health care workers, the elderly, and those with underlying health conditions.  If you are young (under 50) and healthy and are taking up a test kit, crowding

This country is being bright to its knees by fear....not the virus. Recovery from getting the virus is a couple weeks. Recovery of society from this hysteria will be years.

It’s sad that about half the country still believes outlets like msnbc and cnn.  You would think after they lied everyday for 3 years about Russian collusion, people would get the hint of what their t

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A prototype vaccine has protected monkeys from the virus, researches have found.

A prototype vaccine has protected monkeys from the virus, researchers reported on Wednesday, a finding that offers new hope for effective human vaccines.

 

Scientists are already testing virus vaccines in people, but the initial trials are designed to determine safety, not how well a vaccine works. The research published Wednesday offers insight into what a vaccine must do to be effective and how to measure that.

 

“To me, this is convincing that a vaccine is possible,” said Dr. Nelson Michael, the director of the Center for Infectious Diseases Research at Walter Reed Army Institute of Research.

 

Scientists are engaged in a worldwide scramble to create a vaccine against the new virus. Over a hundred research projects have been launched; early safety trials in humans have been started or completed in nine of them.

Next to come are larger trials to determine whether these candidate vaccines are not just safe, but effective. But those results won’t arrive for months.

In the meantime, Dr. Dan Barouch, a virologist at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, and his colleagues have started a series of experiments on monkeys to get a broader look at how coronaviruses affect monkeys — and whether vaccines could fight them. Their report was published in Science.
 

In one series of experiments, each monkey received pieces of DNA, which their cells turned into viral proteins designed to train the immune system to recognize the virus.

 

Most coronavirus vaccines are intended to coax the immune system to make antibodies that latch onto the spike protein and destroy the virus. Dr. Barouch and his colleagues tried out six variations.

 

Some of the vaccines provided only partial protection, but other vaccines worked better. The one that worked best trained the immune system to recognize and attack the entire spike protein of the coronavirus. In eight monkeys, the researchers couldn’t detect the virus at all.

 

“I think that overall this will be seen as very good news for the vaccine effort,” said Dr. Barouch. “This increases our optimism that a vaccine for Covid-19 will be possible.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/coronavirus-live-updates.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

 

 

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3 hours ago, mikejm said:

I was referring to someone's post about a state receiving more federal dollars than it paid into the federal budget; like North Dakota.
Neither comment had anything to do with state budgets.

Sorry. My post was directed at the original post. I agree with you in that regardless of where the federal tax theft from your state gets distributed a state is still responsible for their budget. Some of these states have been mismanaged so poorly for 50-60 years and are always on the cusp of bankruptcy and now in addition to Covid relief they want a do-over at the expense of more fiscally responsible states.

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7 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

DNA vaccines make me nervous

I don't know if you would ever find me in that line.  My hope was, this was the body fighting off the virus after a second infection, but I'm not a monkey either.  

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Question for anyone in/connected to the medical and/or LTC field.  ND has had 31 people over 80 die of/with Covid and just 18 people over 80 hospitalized with Covid.  Why would those who are so sick with Covid that they're dying not be hospitalized?  Is it just killing them before they can get to the hospital?

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4 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Question for anyone in/connected to the medical and/or LTC field.  ND has had 31 people over 80 die of/with Covid and just 18 people over 80 hospitalized with Covid.  Why would those who are so sick with Covid that they're dying not be hospitalized?  Is it just killing them before they can get to the hospital?

Or in a SNF

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8 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Question for anyone in/connected to the medical and/or LTC field.  ND has had 31 people over 80 die of/with Covid and just 18 people over 80 hospitalized with Covid.  Why would those who are so sick with Covid that they're dying not be hospitalized?  Is it just killing them before they can get to the hospital?

And how many were already on hospice, or well on their way?  Or declined a step-up in care altogether?

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10 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Question for anyone in/connected to the medical and/or LTC field.  ND has had 31 people over 80 die of/with Covid and just 18 people over 80 hospitalized with Covid.  Why would those who are so sick with Covid that they're dying not be hospitalized?  Is it just killing them before they can get to the hospital?

I'm not in medicine, but I have relatives in nursing homes and memory care.  Most die there because they have elected to not have unnecessary procedures done on a "health care directive."  They are made comfortable normally using hospice.  

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1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:

DNA vaccines make me nervous

Ancient (and probably not so ancient) viral DNA is a definite part of the human genome.  Started assimilating way back when, perhaps as life as we know it, began.

Or is there another reason DNA vaccines make you apprehensive?

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Just got the COVID test.  Symptoms not standard COVID symptoms but had exposure at work to person who tested positive so Dr wanted test done. 

They ran out of the long swabs so got a shorter one in the nose.  Hope it's as effective as the std one.

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55 minutes ago, krustyklown said:

Ancient (and probably not so ancient) viral DNA is a definite part of the human genome.  Started assimilating way back when, perhaps as life as we know it, began.

Or is there another reason DNA vaccines make you apprehensive?

No DNA vaccine has ever made it to approval for human use...so there's that.    

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Man Walz is a clown. Gotta think a lot lawsuits are gonna be thrown at him from gyms, restaurants, etc. soon if they haven't already especially after seeing how it worked in Wisconsin.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, SiouxScore said:

Man Walz is a clown. Gotta think a lot lawsuits are gonna be thrown at him from gyms, restaurants, etc. soon if they haven't already especially after seeing how it worked in Wisconsin.

 

 

 

The guy is an idiot. Hes killing businesses.

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1 minute ago, bison73 said:

The guy is an idiot. Hes killing businesses.

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#half-staff

 

 

BTW.....is he still sitting on the 22000?

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I had an inspection yesterday at a nearby base.  The inspection was outside.  I walk up with no mask and was told by the GC that everyone had to wear a mask.  I asked, "why", the inspection is outside, breezy, sunny, etc...  He said that base General wanted it that way.  The General saw a contractor not wearing a mask and removed him from the base for three years.  I walk up to the area that I was to inspect and everyone there had on masks, except for the Government employee.  I had to laugh.

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2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

BTW.....is he still sitting on the 22000?

Is he still putting covid positive patients into nursing homes?

Even the New York governor put a stop to that.

80% of Minnesota deaths are from "long term care" facilities.

The highest percentage in the nation!

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18 minutes ago, Cratter said:

Looked it up.

There is a guaranteed way to stop covid deaths and Walz isn't doing it.

Minnesota nursing homes accept COVID-19 patients, even as deaths climb

Talk about blood on your hands.

Instead he orders people to only eat outside.

Yet the National Sports Center in Blaine MN cancelled everything thru the end of July. No ice or field leagues or tournaments. Protecting the most vulnerable.........

That fact that some are even questioning if Walz is a bigger F-up than Whitmer say it all!

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went for a bike ride...by river road in egf the path curls north up to the pedestrian bridge...i was coming up behind a mom and her two kids  on bikes like me going south....a couple were walking north on the path...the lady looked up and saw 4 people coming towards her....the look on her face leads me to believe she's been watching 24 hours a day of fearporn...she scrambled up the dyke about 10 feet in sheer terror of the 4 bikers coming at her (no masks btw).

about two minutes later i was crossing river road and i noticed that egf is actually putting up signs saying the path narrows and to stay at least 6 feet apart....

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1 hour ago, Cratter said:

Is he still putting covid positive patients into nursing homes?

Even the New York governor put a stop to that.

80% of Minnesota deaths are from "long term care" facilities.

The highest percentage in the nation!

wow!  didn't know that...

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5 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

went for a bike ride...by river road in egf the path curls north up to the pedestrian bridge...i was coming up behind a mom and her two kids  on bikes like me going south....a couple were walking north on the path...the lady looked up and saw 4 people coming towards her....the look on her face leads me to believe she's been watching 24 hours a day of fearporn...she scrambled up the dyke about 10 feet in sheer terror of the 4 bikers coming at her (no masks btw).

about two minutes later i was crossing river road and i noticed that egf is actually putting up signs saying the path narrows and to stay at least 6 feet apart....

To be fair, staying six feet away from somebody from EGF is a practice most should do.

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