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56 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

Riiiight.  In no parallel universe would Covid have killed that many people by now.      

That said, it is crazy by the end of the month Covid will likely be the 4th deadliest event in US history behind 1918 pandemic, Civil War and WW2. 

To put it in perspective, at our current pace (especially now that we're opening) we'll pass Civil War casualty numbers in just under 2 years.  Civil War lasted for 4 years.          

To the just one lifers out there.....when comparing Covid-19 to past US war body counts, at least try and be accurate.  During the Civil War, WW2, pretty much any war, the vast majority of deaths were in the 18-45/50 age range and were perfectly healthy individuals....otherwise the military wouldn't have let them join.  How many perfectly healthy people has COVID-19 taken in that same age group?

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2 hours ago, UNDlaw80 said:

Well sure, that’s been Trump’s MoA even before his Presidency.   Play the woe-is-me victim card, ruthlessly lash out against it. Unwavering.  It resonates with his hard-core base (Trump dont take no $hit!!).  It works for his rallies and such, but it's a disaster for press conferences.  I don't think the media knows how to handle it and their subsequent actions feed into the chaos.  They're to blame too.           

I dunno.  Maybe I’m over-thinking things, but both the media and Trump’s behavior are symptoms of the bigger problem, which is us.  Reality-TV culture has invaded every aspect of this country.   It's disgusting.  
 

Go check out a basement Biden conference if you want to see disasters.

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3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

House Dems introduced another stimulus bill estimated at...........$3 TRILLION! When does this nonsense end? Oh wait.....not until Fauci says so.

My question is, where does this money come from? I guess we're just going to print it. 

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5 hours ago, UND1983 said:

Do you feel this current pace keeps up?  If not why even say that.  #fearporn

 

Initially? No.   Covid is likely seasonal, so I expected it (like the flu) to subside greatly in the summer months.  But this isn't happening.  Here we are in May and it's just starting to spill into every nook and cranny of the country....especially now with the nation opening up.   Then we probably have a heavy round 2 coming in the fall/winter coinciding with the flu. 

I'm not advocating lessening all restrictions, but at this point we're gonna have to accept Covid as part of life, realize a lot of people are gonna die and move forward the best we can because people need to get back to work.      

 

            

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Just to be extra super duper I'm gonna wear a mask when I'm by myself safe is it too early to start talking about the 3rd wave?  I like to plan ahead. 

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4 hours ago, jdub27 said:

I mean, "news" stations doing this pre-dates Trump. While the media/news cycle continues to evolve, I don't recall Bush or Obama reacting to anywhere near that or even trying to escalate the situation. 

True. But with Obama the dial was at a 2. Bush was at about a 7 and they have ripped off the knob with Trump.

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15 hours ago, UND1983 said:

Do you really think the sitting President of the United States is going to go into a red-hot ER and "visit" people?  At least use your melon before you post. 

I would imagine, that he wouldn't get in anyways. Nor should they let him in. 

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1 hour ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

Riiiight.  In no parallel universe would Covid have killed that many people by now.      

That said, it is crazy by the end of the month Covid will likely be the 4th deadliest event in US history behind 1918 pandemic, Civil War and WW2. 

To put it in perspective, at our current pace (especially now that we're opening) we'll pass Civil War casualty numbers in just under 2 years.  Civil War lasted for 4 years.          

An ongoing event that make your numbers pale in comparison.  Granted these figures are worldwide and not just USA.

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1 hour ago, Walsh Hall said:

The post above was from March 6th.  What needed to be done was known at that time by anyone with decent critical thinking skills.  Unfortunately the second sentence above was not followed.  Instead of not getting information from the media and politicians and not panicking,  the media has been listened to and caused a colossal panic.

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CA, which has outperformed Germany In terms of deaths/million, has the director of public health in LA county hinting a lockdown through July...

how does that make sense?  Don’t let kids play baseball or go to art camp or learn to ride horses...

Elderly and vulnerable stay home.  Sick or around someone who’s sick, stay home and/or get a test before interacting.  

simple
 

 

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5 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:

CA, which has outperformed Germany In terms of deaths/million, has the director of public health in LA county hinting a lockdown through July...

how does that make sense?  Don’t let kids play baseball or go to art camp or learn to ride horses...

Elderly and vulnerable stay home.  Sick or around someone who’s sick, stay home and/or get a test before interacting.  

simple

#justsaveonelife

 

Makes zero sense. These past four months have shown the complete incompetence at every level of elected leadership on a national level. 

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How many drownings will occur in swimming pools and the Pacific Ocean because kids couldn’t take swimming lessons?  
 

these people will have the blood of children on their hands!

 

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2 hours ago, Walsh Hall said:

The post above was from March 6th.  What needed to be done was known at that time by anyone with decent critical thinking skills.  Unfortunately the second sentence above was not followed.  Instead of not getting information from the media and politicians and not panicking,  the media has been listened to and caused a colossal panic.

 

I understand it's a right-wing talking point, but the "media" isn’t some all-encompassing entity that pushes a uniform agenda. 

Half this country seeks out news from outlets that counter left-leaning news.  People hear what they want to hear.        

 

Honest media has gone down the toilet.   There's a lot of money to be made from 'news information'.  Nowadays news outlets are business that cater to the wishes of their clients - they give people 'news' what they want to hear.  It's a big reason this country is so divided.      

 

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26 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

I understand it's a right-wing talking point, but the "media" isn’t some all-encompassing entity that pushes a uniform agenda. 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:

 

I understand it's a right-wing talking point, but the "media" isn’t some all-encompassing entity that pushes a uniform agenda. 

Half this country is seeks out news from outlets that counters left-leaning news.  People hear what they want to hear.        

 

Honest media has gone down the toilet.   There's a lot of money to be made from 'news information'.  Outlets are business that cater to the wishes of their clients and give them what they want to hear.  It's a big reason this country is so divided.      

 

No doubt on the media.

In this situation I don’t see how there can be such a large divergence in opinion if we strictly looked at the actual numbers.  Every statement in Ira’s post have been proven to be 100% statistically accurate.

If this were an academic exercise and 10 people were given nothin but the actual statistics there is no way  they would propose shutting down the economy and place the current restriction across 95% of the country.

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My mother in law made a great comment to my daughter.  We are currently hatching some butterflies...caterpillar, to pupae, to butterfly to free kinda deal.

one of the butterflies died.  My mother in law asked my daughter if that was sad.  My daughter said yes.  My mother in law responded, no honey, it’s not sad or happy, it’s nature.

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4 hours ago, yzerman19 said:

CA, which has outperformed Germany In terms of deaths/million, has the director of public health in LA county hinting a lockdown through July...

how does that make sense?  Don’t let kids play baseball or go to art camp or learn to ride horses...

Elderly and vulnerable stay home.  Sick or around someone who’s sick, stay home and/or get a test before interacting.  

simple
 

 

Florida, like California, is lower than Germany in the deaths/million.  Florida is somewhat of a microcosm of the US. 

A large percentage of the US deaths are in the Northeast... NY, NJ, PA and MA.

56% of the deaths in Florida are in 3 counties, Miami/Dade, Broward and Palm Beach.  Gov DeSantis, has for the most part allowed the counties to do what they see is best for their community.  Florida began Phase I of reopening, with the exception of the above counties.   There is no need for a national policy or statewide policies when the threat is not widespread.

When beaches opened in certain locations across the country, a segment of our society went nuts at how irresponsible it was.  The beaches here opened last week.  My family took advantage of it.  Fresh air, sunshine, exercise, etc.

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said:

No doubt on the media.

In this situation I don’t see how there can be such a large divergence in opinion if we strictly looked at the actual numbers.  Every statement in Ira’s post have been proven to be 100% statistically accurate.

If this were an academic exercise and 10 people were given nothin but the actual statistics there is no way  they would propose shutting down the economy and place the current restriction across 95% of the country.

 

What's not to understand?  This country is so divided that facts don't matter anymore for 80% of the population....no matter what the topic.    40% on each side will go down with the ship no matter what.    

I alluded to this in a previous post - modern communication has broken us.   It allows people to be cocooned within their pre-existing worldview.  There's no common ground whatsoever anymore.  This nation is full-blown party over country on both sides....with the complete demonization of differing views.                   

 

Actually the blame is on us.  We're the consumers. We're choosing to consume this $hit and not look beyond our own biases.  Human nature I guess.  I hate to say it, but I think we've become too big and too diverse for a functioning democracy.     

 

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20 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
 
She said the economy would never die
But that changed once she found out 'bout that Fauci guy
Oh but it's just a cold
Wouldn't hurt her if she stayed at home, 'cause
When it infects too much
You lose your sense of touch
 
I got the Wuhan flu
I got the Wuhan flu
'Cause when the chest is tight, vent's gonna run all night
I got the Wuhan flu
 
She's got a heart condition, death rates are up and down
Tried to get tested but got the runaround
COVID keeps this place a ghost town.
I know last night I heard a cough or two
Now there's no one left to make love to you
 
I got my face covered up
I can't go out too much
 
I got the Wuhan flu
Yeah I got the Wuhan flu
'Cause when the chest is tight, vent's gonna run all night
I got the Wuhan flu
Yeah I got the Wuhan flu
Oh when the chest is tight, vent's gonna run all night
I got the Wuhan flu
 
(to the tune of "Run to You" - and apologies to Bryan Adams)
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I need antibodies
Antibodies not flu
Everybody needs antibodies, oh yeah
I need antibodies
Hey what about you
We all need antibodies, hey
 
Another report, another two weeks burned
It's the distance keeps us insane
But when the data leads to wallow
We do it all again, all again, yah
 
I need antibodies
Antibodies not flu
Everybody needs antibodies, oh yeah
I need antibodies
Hey what about you
We all need antibodies, hey
 
Apologies to Bryan Adams and his song “Somebody”. 
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1 hour ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said:
(to the tune of "Run to You" - and apologies to Bryan Adams)

A vastly under appreciated bass riff I must say (and I do, speaking as a guy who’s held a long neck for a few minutes or so). 

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