BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 40 minutes ago, burd said: Records don't tell everything, but in Sandy's 18 full years at UMD, he has won 15 or fewer games seven times, less than 20 nine times, and has never won 30 or more. Beginning his fourth year, when the team was all his, he won 15, 11, 13, and 13 the next four years. His career at UMD has a LOT of mediocrity In Berry's three full years, he has won 17, 21, and 34. Not saying Berry is better than or as good as Sandy, but to be calling for his head in only his 4th year with those results is premature, to say the least. Those old teammates have respect from the league. I wish gfhockey would go in and edit his initial post and give Berry a capital B in this threads heading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPritch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 7:49 AM, siouxkid12 said: At least we were making it on a consistent basis. Unlike what we have now.... Amen. Marv Levy and Bud Grant, who we all know lost multiple SBs, were arguably better coaches than T. Dungy and J. Gruden, regardless whether the latter two won SB titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPritch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 4:20 PM, southpaw said: And if you get rid of last season he is 63-28-8. It's just as meaningless as taking away the championship season. I think his point though is a little more meaningful in that the 2016 team was really Hak's team while last season was obviously more so Berry's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, GDPritch said: Amen. Marv Levy and Bud Grant, who we all know lost multiple SBs, were arguably better coaches than T. Dungy and J. Gruden, regardless whether the latter two won SB titles. Where does Belichick fit in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPritch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Per Schloss... "Through all the ups and downs, UND now is the only team in the country with two wins over top-4 teams, and UND is the only team in the country with a win on the road over a top-4 team." That stat, while nice, tells me then that overall (season as a whole) they're probably an average or slightly above average team. Maddingly they sometimes look like world beaters and sometimes they've looked like they can't beat anybody (just 1 win in 6 games vs Bem St, Miami-OH, and W. Mich). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPritch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Cratter said: Where does Belichick fit in? Hmm..., Mount Rushmore (and I'm not a Pats fan). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, GDPritch said: Hmm..., Mount Rushmore (and I'm not a Pats fan). I guess this notion that "Bud Grant vs J. Gruden" isn't the only option?? "UND will never be able to have its take and eat it too. Its either constant winning with no Natty's or Crap teams all the time with one or two Nattys every decade!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDPritch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 12 hours ago, Cratter said: I guess this notion that "Bud Grant vs J. Gruden" isn't the only option?? "UND will never be able to have its take and eat it too. Its either constant winning with no Natty's or Crap teams all the time with one or two Nattys every decade!!" No doubt, preference would be somewhere in the middle. Anyway, I would still take Bud. This ain't a football blog/site but to be fair to Bud Grant, they were pretty much the best team NFC team for much of the 70s but lost 3 SBs to pretty damn good all-time teams in Miami, Pittsburgh, and Oakland so it was really no tragedy losing to them. The KC loss though, ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, GDPritch said: No doubt, preference would be somewhere in the middle. Anyway, I would still take Bud. This ain't a football blog/site but to be fair to Bud Grant, they were pretty much the best team NFC team for much of the 70s but lost 3 SBs to pretty damn good all-time teams in Miami, Pittsburgh, and Oakland so it was really no tragedy losing to them. The KC loss though, ugh. When they blocked Ray Guy's punt against Oakland, I thought it was going to be their year--nobody blocked Ray Guy. But that good fortune didn't last long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Props to the moderators for capitalizing the lowercase "b" in "Berry" on this thread title. It was driving my OCD crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 16 hours ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Those old teammates have respect from the league. I wish gfhockey would go in and edit his initial post and give Berry a capital B in this threads heading? Thx, looks a lot better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, MafiaMan said: Props to the moderators for capitalizing the lowercase "b" in "Berry" on this thread title. It was driving my OCD crazy. Hey, @MafiaMan there's medication for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Goon said: Hey, @MafiaMan there's medication for that. He's now fixating on your lack of punctuation after his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, burd said: He's now fixating on your lack of punctuation after his name. Good catch! There really should be a comma there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakotaKid92 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, MafiaMan said: Good catch! There really should be a comma there. A period or exclamation point would also be acceptable, but then there's the problem with the uncapitalized T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, MafiaMan said: Good catch! There really should be a comma there. Mafiaman in grade school... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforeverbaby Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 23 hours ago, burd said: He's now fixating on your lack of punctuation after his name. Technically, there is a comma there. It is just in the wrong spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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