Meat man 01 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 How many other ones think that Bubba and his band of coaches are not ready to take you ND football team up & Beyond division 2 play they will never be able to compete against the bison or other teams if they don't start to play and get better recruits time to move on and build a better team with coaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gfhockey Posted September 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2018 Dude we just played a top ten fbseteam relax 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Meat man 01 said: How many other ones think that Bubba and his band of coaches are not ready to take you ND football team up & Beyond division 2 play they will never be able to compete against the bison or other teams if they don't start to play and get better recruits time to move on and build a better team with coaches All because we lost to #9 Washington? Your point is valid if we lose 45-3 to Sam Houston or maybe even a MAC team but we played a power 5 conference title favorite, sorry but the likes of the Bison or SDSU is not on the same level as Washington. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Defensive staff has my vote of confidence offensive staff starting with Rudolph is a joke special teams ... blah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Defensive staff has my vote of confidence offensive staff starting with Rudolph is a joke special teams ... blah Whoa wait a minute....we have special teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Irish Posted September 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2018 - I'm not reading this as a reaction to losing to Washington. This is Bubba's fifth year and a legit question. What we have learned so far this year is that Bubba is Bubba and probably will not change a lot. So .... can we take the next step? Pro's - stopped the sideline dancing and has instilled a better work ethic, worked hard to improve the game day experience. Other than last year has generally improved the defense. Tied for a Big Sky conf. Championship - has recruited some talented players. Cons - Has given us perhaps the worst O coordinator I have seen in my 50 years as a fan and refuses to change. Immediately after winning the Big Sky, pisses away our first home playoff game in ages with perhaps the worst overall coaching job I have ever seen in the second half of the game. Failure to adequately recruit the QB position - Studs was a gamer for sure and one tough cookie but still - last year we had a 4th year starter who couldn't throw downfield, locked on to a receiver, and had trouble throwing a screen pass. We need a good QB recruit every year. Has not shown the ability to recruit and keep O linemen - In a Bubbaworld O linemen are the key to our team. Has not recruited talented receivers (we had better skills here during our D-2 days) - Has shown almost no ability to adjust in general, but especially during the game. Special teams are pathetic - our lack of coverage is frustrating and lack of kickers may be a season breaker. In summary - when we evaluate Bubba we need to take his assistants too as he has shown he will never make changes. He will always remain the guy who thinks "if we punt from here we can really put them back". In my mind it's playoffs or bust this year. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat man 01 Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 Irish. very well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I read the first post in this thread and could not possibly take this seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 50 minutes ago, Irish said: - I'm not reading this as a reaction to losing to Washington. This is Bubba's fifth year and a legit question. What we have learned so far this year is that Bubba is Bubba and probably will not change a lot. So .... can we take the next step? Pro's - stopped the sideline dancing and has instilled a better work ethic, worked hard to improve the game day experience. Other than last year has generally improved the defense. Tied for a Big Sky conf. Championship - has recruited some talented players. Cons - Has given us perhaps the worst O coordinator I have seen in my 50 years as a fan and refuses to change. Immediately after winning the Big Sky, pisses away our first home playoff game in ages with perhaps the worst overall coaching job I have ever seen in the second half of the game. Failure to adequately recruit the QB position - Studs was a gamer for sure and one tough cookie but still - last year we had a 4th year starter who couldn't throw downfield, locked on to a receiver, and had trouble throwing a screen pass. We need a good QB recruit every year. Has not shown the ability to recruit and keep O linemen - In a Bubbaworld O linemen are the key to our team. Has not recruited talented receivers (we had better skills here during our D-2 days) - Has shown almost no ability to adjust in general, but especially during the game. Special teams are pathetic - our lack of coverage is frustrating and lack of kickers may be a season breaker. In summary - when we evaluate Bubba we need to take his assistants too as he has shown he will never make changes. He will always remain the guy who thinks "if we punt from here we can really put them back". In my mind it's playoffs or bust this year. You nailed it. I fully agree, Bubba absolutely can't recruit. Muss, for all his problems got better players to come here. A couple months ago I blasted for being too negative about Bubba's lack of quality commits, but the lack of success is very apparent. Playoffs or bust is right, but I really think by this stage of the game we should have the expectations of a playoff win as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hawkster said: You nailed it. I fully agree, Bubba absolutely can't recruit. Muss, for all his problems got better players to come here. A couple months ago I blasted for being too negative about Bubba's lack of quality commits, but the lack of success is very apparent. Playoffs or bust is right, but I really think by this stage of the game we should have the expectations of a playoff win as well. Mussman had some high end guys mixed in with some flunkies. We had no depth at a lot of spots under him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said: Mussman had some high end guys mixed in with some flunkies. We had no depth at a lot of spots under him. And the team culture was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, UNDBIZ said: And the team culture was awful. Yup, lots of selfish divas who thought they were bigger than the program. Not all, but enough to ruin things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I like Freund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, sioux24/7 said: I like Freund Literally everyone like him. He’s a great guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I think as we start to get better recruits others will follow, Bubba is trying to weed out the bad ones before they get here dont need that culture here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 28 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: And the team culture was awful. Well I didn't say he was a good coach, I just stated that Muss did indeed attract some very quality players to this program and was better at recruiting then Bubba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Hawkster said: Well I didn't say he was a good coach, I just stated that Muss did indeed attract some very quality players to this program and was better at recruiting then Bubba. I disagree. The few home runs he smashed allow some to forget about the many strikeouts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 7 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: I disagree. The few home runs he smashed allow some to forget about the many strikeouts. Recruiting was and has been iffy for both. UND would have a playoff win by now if either could recruit top end players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Meat man 01 said: How many other ones think that Bubba and his band of coaches are not ready to take you ND football team up & Beyond division 2 play they will never be able to compete against the bison or other teams if they don't start to play and get better recruits time to move on and build a better team with coaches Champions in one of the best FCS conferences in Year #3..........… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 hours ago, bincitysioux said: Champions in one of the best FCS conferences in Year #3..........… Sorry, but this thread is for those who do NOT want to see any good signs about Bubba and who actually hope this season sucks so there's an excuse to fire him. Que the "horrible 2nd half loss to Richmond" reminders in 3...2...1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 20 hours ago, gfhockey said: Dude we just played a top ten fbseteam relax I need to save this post for when the hockey team plays a top ten team on the road and loses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shep Posted September 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, MafiaMan said: I need to save this post for when the hockey team plays a top ten team on the road and loses... Hello apples...this is oranges...nice to meet you. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, shep said: Hello apples...this is oranges...nice to meet you. gfhockey lost his damn mind when the hockey team lost a mid-season exhibition game a few years ago...yet he preaches more patience with Bubba? Talk about North Dakota nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND1 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The hockey team plays in the “FBS” division of hockey, the football doesn’t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: I need to save this post for when the hockey team plays a top ten team on the road and loses... But we are in the same division as the top ten hockey team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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