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7 hours ago, nodakvindy said:

UND needs to expand more into cold weather research.  Talk to the Twitter King and get some money poured into a research facility for electric cars.  If they can be made more viable in cold weather that is a huge additional market for Teslas.

Interesting idea, but along with it you need to get EERC to work on the infrastructure issues that come with vehicle electrification.

Imagine if you will, adding just one electric car into each garage in your neighborhood. Is your power distributor (Xcel, Otter Tail Power, local REC) ready for that? Are the cables large enough? Are the transformers sized correctly? You will effectively be doubling the household load. Yes, there are present strategies to manage this, like timed home chargers that only activate overnight (off peak times). But just the same, present off peak times are based on 24 hour generation from "turning shafts". If we want to go solar/wind those don't tend to produce well on a calm overnight. And large scale energy storage at reasonable cost is still not here. 

Electric cars bring plethora of associated issues: generation, transmission, distribution, energy storage. That's before the real issue temperature vindy brings up is even broached. Oh ... and you need the minerals, from iron and copper, to lithium and cobalt, to do all this. 

Sounds like the EERC's wheelhouse, especially with built in laboratories at hand (the climate in GF, Minnkota Power, Basin Electric of Bismarck, OTP Co). 

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9 hours ago, nodakvindy said:

UND needs to expand more into cold weather research.  Talk to the Twitter King and get some money poured into a research facility for electric cars.  If they can be made more viable in cold weather that is a huge additional market for Teslas.

Great idea.  It will be valuable on everything from snowblowers to heavy equipment.  It’s coming whether everyone is ready for it or not. 

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1 minute ago, homer said:

It’s coming whether everyone is ready for it or not

That bold part is my fear. (Our electrical infrastructure is not in place to supply the kW/BTUs we currently get from gas/diesel.) 

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12 hours ago, nodakvindy said:

UND needs to expand more into cold weather research.  Talk to the Twitter King and get some money poured into a research facility for electric cars.  If they can be made more viable in cold weather that is a huge additional market for Teslas.

I'm sure Armacost could have a great conversation with him about space, as well.  Could technology from the Boring company be used in an underground flood diversion system?  Better research that.

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3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Interesting idea, but along with it you need to get EERC to work on the infrastructure issues that come with vehicle electrification.

Imagine if you will, adding just one electric car into each garage in your neighborhood. Is your power distributor (Xcel, Otter Tail Power, local REC) ready for that? Are the cables large enough? Are the transformers sized correctly? You will effectively be doubling the household load. Yes, there are present strategies to manage this, like timed home chargers that only activate overnight (off peak times). But just the same, present off peak times are based on 24 hour generation from "turning shafts". If we want to go solar/wind those don't tend to produce well on a calm overnight. And large scale energy storage at reasonable cost is still not here. 

Electric cars bring plethora of associated issues: generation, transmission, distribution, energy storage. That's before the real issue temperature vindy brings up is even broached. Oh ... and you need the minerals, from iron and copper, to lithium and cobalt, to do all this. 

Sounds like the EERC's wheelhouse, especially with built in laboratories at hand (the climate in GF, Minnkota Power, Basin Electric of Bismarck, OTP Co). 

There's no reason solar panels couldn't be built into the roof of a car (or possibly event the hood or trunk).  That would greatly extend range and also take pressure of charging stations.  Same holds true for the roofs of flatbed trailers, that could help power hybrid trucks.

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3 minutes ago, nodakvindy said:

There's no reason solar panels couldn't be built into the roof of a car (or possibly event the hood or trunk).  That would greatly extend range and also take pressure of charging stations.  Same holds true for the roofs of flatbed trailers, that could help power hybrid trucks.

I'm not disagreeing, but our efficiencies and energy storage tech isn't where it need be ... yet.
I think I'll see the tech, but not at scale, in my lifetime. 

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