UND-1 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Would love to see how many players actually achiever the "Masters" degree that they are supposedly transferring for. It takes 1.5-2 years to get one and they only have one year to play & get it paid for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I think this rule helps justify not seeing redshirts used the past few years in basketball. Why save a fifth year you won't benefit from. Personally don't see Shanks or Bernstein being anymore than 7-8 options at where they transfer too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Given the very odd situation with UND, Brian Jones, and his contract (or lack thereof), I personally can't rule that out as a factor in this. Recent history suggests coaching continuity definitely helps prevent such transfers; that much has been established in both DI NCAA basketball and football. Is there anyone that actually thinks that Jones will not get a contract extension? Does Drick (or any other current MBB player at UND) actually think that Jones will not be the coach next year? I don't think this played any factor into his decision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Is there anyone that actually thinks that Jones will not get a contract extension? Does Drick (or any other current MBB player at UND) actually think that Jones will not be the coach next year? I don't think this played any factor into his decision. Where, at this point in time, would Jones go? Is it possible, in the negotiations, that both Jones and Faison think they are in the power seat with Jones making larger demands and Faison thinking Jones has no other option? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, zonadub said: Where, at this point in time, would Jones go? Is it possible, in the negotiations, that both Jones and Faison think they are in the power seat with Jones making larger demands and Faison thinking Jones has no other option? Not surprised if that is what is going on. I'm sure Faison had a contract sitting on his desk for Jones to sign months ago. No doubt they are going back and forth in the negotiations. Jones' last contract was for $100,000 a year. does he deserve more? Absolutley. Does he deserve $250,000? Probably not. A realistic number for Jones should be around $180,000 with incentives for conference championships, wins in a season, and NCAA tournament bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geaux_sioux Posted June 2, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2017 Total drick move by Bernstine 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Not surprised if that is what is going on. I'm sure Faison had a contract sitting on his desk for Jones to sign months ago. No doubt they are going back and forth in the negotiations. Jones' last contract was for $100,000 a year. does he deserve more? Absolutley. Does he deserve $250,000? Probably not. A realistic number for Jones should be around $180,000 with incentives for conference championships, wins in a season, and NCAA tournament bids. Goes from 100 to 180 with that resume? Better be a hell of alot in incentives 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted June 3, 2017 Author Share Posted June 3, 2017 On 3/28/2017 at 0:06 PM, SWSiouxMN said: So as stated in the 16-17 thread, Shanks is transferring out. I wish him nothing but the best and thank him for his contribution to UND and helping bring UND to a championship and NCAA appearance. What does that mean for next year? This is a minor blow that could be a bigger blow is Drick does the same thing. It does thin out the frontcourt a little bit now with Drick and Avants the only two with significant minutes. Walter is going to have to make a huge jump from year 1 to 2. Be interesting to see how Jones and company replace the scholarship. Does he play this with next year in mind or does he play this with the Summit in mind? I'd say try to find a HS recruit or a freshman transfer and go from there. I'm won't touch the transfer rules/Drick's decision/Jones contract, this post is strictly a regard to 17-18 This is a big blow and as I stated here in March, it makes the Shanks move a bigger blow as well. UND now has a very thin frontcourt. More alarming is there is only one of them that is currently trustworthy (Avants). One is injury prone (Jones), the other only has 94 minutes in college basketball and most of that was in mop-up (Walter). Now that is not to say that Walter can't step it up or Jones can put together a healthy and productive season, its possible. Its time for UND to get lucky on one of these transfers. Like grand slam lucky. Like EWU-Wiley lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 19 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Is there anyone that actually thinks that Jones will not get a contract extension? Does Drick (or any other current MBB player at UND) actually think that Jones will not be the coach next year? I don't think this played any factor into his decision. The lingering nature of the contract talks is certainly atypical, even considering low-major DI basketball programs. It's not optimal and I won't blindly support UND's athletic department on this ordeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 is jones under any sort of contract right now...short term or long term? and if it's the short term one when does that one expire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just now, SIOUXFAN97 said: is jones under any sort of contract right now...short term or long term? and if it's the short term one when does that one expire? He signed a two month extension a few weeks ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 It's funny. All these guys get one game of big time college ball and they think they can play in the major conferences is dirk a Mormon? i will miss his entrance tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Transfer in from Denver...transfer out. Transfer in from Utah State...transfer out to Loyola (IL)... Anyone else see a problem with college basketball these days -and I don't mean just UND. "Amatuer" athletics is a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 4 hours ago, MafiaMan said: Transfer in from Denver. Graduate. Go to grad school elsewhere. Transfer in from Utah State. Graduate. Go to grad school elsewhere. Anyone see a problem with the above adjustments? They're still students. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 36 minutes ago, southpaw said: Anyone see a problem with the above adjustments? They're still students. So Malik Zaire picked Florida to further his academics...or enhance his NFL prospects? Just curious... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 48 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: So Malik Zaire picked Florida to further his academics...or enhance his NFL prospects? Just curious... I appreciate a good asinine comparison as much as anyone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post homer Posted June 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2017 General studies major is a tough one. How many schools offer masters programs in that? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 3 hours ago, MafiaMan said: So Malik Zaire picked Florida to further his academics...or enhance his NFL prospects? Just curious... Playing time. Feel bad for him. Big fan of his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDhoops Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 4 hours ago, MafiaMan said: So Malik Zaire picked Florida to further his academics...or enhance his NFL prospects? Just curious... You wouldn't transfer schools to increase the potential of you earning a living? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoops44 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Pretty sure staff was surprised by the bernstine move, gotta believe they discussed his status for next season long before June...no 2 ways about it bernstine shafted the team by not letting them know before June 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 10 hours ago, UNDhoops said: You wouldn't transfer schools to increase the potential of you earning a living? If they're picking up the tab for it, sure, why wouldn't I? College athletes are becoming nothing more than free agents these days anyways. Can't crack the line-up at a big school? Transfer to a smaller one. Have a good year at a small school and think you can make a name for yourself? Transfer to a bigger one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: If they're picking up the tab for it, sure, why wouldn't I? College athletes are becoming nothing more than free agents these days anyways. Can't crack the line-up at a big school? Transfer to a smaller one. Have a good year at a small school and think you can make a name for yourself? Transfer to a bigger one. So where would you put Shanks in these two scenarios?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: If they're picking up the tab for it, sure, why wouldn't I? College athletes are becoming nothing more than free agents these days anyways. Can't crack the line-up at a big school? Transfer to a smaller one. Have a good year at a small school and think you can make a name for yourself? Transfer to a bigger one. Was it like this.... ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 My dream would be if some UND landed a true center. If they can replace Drick with equal or greater value (I know its asking a lot this late in the game), they UND can still content this year. If they can't... it will be more difficult. We saw what happened with Montana and Weber last year when you didn't have decent to above average post play to balance great guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 11 hours ago, MafiaMan said: If they're picking up the tab for it, sure, why wouldn't I? College athletes are becoming nothing more than free agents these days anyways. Can't crack the line-up at a big school? Transfer to a smaller one. Have a good year at a small school and think you can make a name for yourself? Transfer to a bigger one. 11 hours ago, dmksioux said: So where would you put Shanks in these two scenarios?? I'm have no idea, because in March, he was supposedly heading BACK to Utah State... http://www.sltrib.com/home/5258289-155/usu-basketball-carson-shanks-will-not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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