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Last men's and women's games were both great to watch. Lots of points and some great passes for scores. I'm looking forward to the other games this week. Go Sioux!

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The Longwood game is just another illustration that the true building blocks of a mid-major program start with the freshmen.

This program needs the capability of offering three scholarships both this spring and next in order for this program to continue building.

Sadly, the scholarships held by the sophomores are a noose around the neck of this program. Without a change, 2013 is the earliest date in which significantly more talent would come into the program.

With the high amount of scholarships held by the underperforming sophomore class, the freshman will only get help when they are seniors.

Ideally, a program needs to offer 3-4 scholarships a year to constantly bring in new talent.

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It was pretty.

Sioux looked good tonight. Still stretches of undisciplined play, but, hey, they're young.

With about 7 minutes left one of my kids asked if they ever get to a 100. I said "sometimes, but they won't this game". When they had 90 with about 3 minutes left, I thought I was going to have to eat my words. I think the guys tried to get there (100) and maybe tried a bit too hard.

Nice win. GO SIOUX!!!

Attendance: 1,301? That's a shame.

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Attendance: 1,301? That's a shame.

It is a shame but you look at attendence figures at the lower D1 schools and they dont draw 1000 per game and they've been established D1 schools for a long time. The attendence will continue to grow as the team continues to improve. Us diehards will see the growth while others will just wait and see the final product. Lets enjoy the growth. Go Sioux

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It is a shame but you look at attendence figures at the lower D1 schools and they dont draw 1000 per game and they've been established D1 schools for a long time. The attendence will continue to grow as the team continues to improve. Us diehards will see the growth while others will just wait and see the final product. Lets enjoy the growth. Go Sioux

That's true, but all the Dakotas had larger crowds back when they were D-II powerhouses. While football numbers have increased with the move to D-I, we are not anywhere near historic numbers in men's basketball.

Men's Basketball Attendance

North Dakota

2009-10 – 1,919

2008-09 – 1,623

1991-92 – 4,943 (Div. II champions)

North Dakota State

1986-87 – 4,820 (Div. II champions)

1982-83 – 6,057 (Div. II champions)

1981-82 – 4,385 (Div. II champions)

1980-81 – 5,308 (Div. II champions)

South Dakota

1993-94 – 4,852 (Div. II champions)

South Dakota State

2003-04 – 3,375 (Div. II champions)

2001-02 – 4,449 (Div. II champions)

1999-2000 – 4,077 (Div. II champions)

1997-98 – 5,350 (Div. II champions)

1996-97 – 4,423 (Div. II champions)

1995-96 – 4,945 (Div. II champions)

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That's true, but all the Dakotas had larger crowds back when they were D-II powerhouses. While football numbers have increased with the move to D-I, we are not anywhere near historic numbers in men's basketball.

Men's Basketball Attendance

North Dakota

2009-10 – 1,919

2008-09 – 1,623

1991-92 – 4,943 (Div. II champions)

North Dakota State

1986-87 – 4,820 (Div. II champions)

1982-83 – 6,057 (Div. II champions)

1981-82 – 4,385 (Div. II champions)

1980-81 – 5,308 (Div. II champions)

South Dakota

1993-94 – 4,852 (Div. II champions)

South Dakota State

2003-04 – 3,375 (Div. II champions)

2001-02 – 4,449 (Div. II champions)

1999-2000 – 4,077 (Div. II champions)

1997-98 – 5,350 (Div. II champions)

1996-97 – 4,423 (Div. II champions)

1995-96 – 4,945 (Div. II champions)

Does the term "Div. II champions" mean champions in attendance? No titles for any of those teams. That 91-92 Sioux team was good, but didn't win it all.

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Does the term "Div. II champions" mean champions in attendance? No titles for any of those teams. That 91-92 Sioux team was good, but didn't win it all.

Opps, good catch. Yes, that's what I thought but I took a closer look at my source and now see I also included some stats of TOTAL attendance (road and home). This is the list I should have posted. Still, the point is valid. There has been a drop off for all the Dakota schools since our heydays in Div. II. Even the Bison didn't have numbers that approached their old Div. II days a couple of years ago when they had that nice run that landed them in the Big Dance. Hopefully, we'll all turn it around over the next few years, as has happened in football.

http://fs.ncaa.org/D.../Attendance.pdf

North Dakota

2009-10 – 1,919

2008-09 – 1,623

1991-92 – 4,943 (Div. II leader)

North Dakota State

2009-10 – 2,792

2008-09 – 3,596

1984-85 – 4,873

1983-84 – 5,267

1982-83 – 6,057 (Div. II leader)

1980-81 – 5,308 (Div. II leader)

South Dakota

2009-10 – 1,492

South Dakota State

2009-10 – 2,204

2008-09 – 2,487

1997-98 – 5,350 (Div. II leader)

1995-96 – 4,945 (Div. II leader)

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I believe it was star2city that posted a link that college basketball has been struggling even for the high majors in recent seasons.

Honestly, I don't expect UND to ever average near the 5,000 mark for attendance in the near future, however as we progress into Big Sky play over the years, I think regular 3,000 plus crowds are attainable, and 2,000 or better for the women as long as we are competetive in league play. I'd think the same should be true for the other 3 Dakota schools. Historically, there's been some pretty good basketball played in the Dakota's amongst UND, USD, and SDSU.................

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How much does the Betty hold? Website states it seats around 3500 but Ive heard around 5000. Does somebody know the true attendence figure for the Betty?

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How much does the Betty hold? Website states it seats around 3500 but Ive heard around 5000. Does somebody know the true attendence figure for the Betty?

3300 ..... Betty Engelstad Sioux Center

Edit: But I have heard 4000 counting the VIP area.

Edited by GeauxSioux

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