tnt Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Irish said: I believe Cruikshank was on our radar for quite a while - maybe even a verbal - what happened? He decommitted from Wisconsin, but someone on this site said it was only a matter of time before he and Randklev committed here. Don’t know if they had some inside info or not, but he did get injured and missed the rest of the year. Don’t know the extent of the injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpeRemote Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Am I misunderstanding, or are we saying it’s a good idea to intentionally recruit some less talented players over high-end talent? I’ve passionately followed recruiting and seen the results for decades. There are exceptions to everything but elite programs intentionally going after mid-level players is a new concept to me. Some former mid-lower tier programs like Ohio State used to ignore Minnesota kids in exchange for grinders from Dublin Ohio. But not anymore, they have several kids from Minnesota, and countries like Canada, Ukraine, Germany, and New Jersey With an 85 man football roster it’s not unusual for the blue bloods to scholarship one legacy player and one or two 3-4th yr proven walk-ones. But hockey and BB don’t have much room for an average year. Maybe I’m wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, CarpeRemote said: Am I misunderstanding, or are we saying it’s a good idea to intentionally recruit some less talented players over high-end talent? I’ve passionately followed recruiting and seen the results for decades. There are exceptions to everything but elite programs intentionally going after mid-level players is a new concept to me. Some former mid-lower tier programs like Ohio State used to ignore Minnesota kids in exchange for grinders from Dublin Ohio. But not anymore, they have several kids from Minnesota, and countries like Canada, Ukraine, Germany, and New Jersey With an 85 man football roster it’s not unusual for the blue bloods to scholarship one legacy player and one or two 3-4th yr proven walk-ones. But hockey and BB don’t have much room for an average year. Maybe I’m wrong Depends how you define "talented." Some guys are much more "talented" at going into the corners, battling in front of the net, or laying down in front of a slap shot than that high-end early round draft pick. A good hockey team needs both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 29 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Depends how you define "talented." Some guys are much more "talented" at going into the corners, battling in front of the net, or laying down in front of a slap shot than that high-end early round draft pick. A good hockey team needs both. Exactly. If you were thinking high end players coming out of high school or even juniors, Colton and Tucker Poolman wouldn't have been high on many teams' lists, but they have intangibles that make them guys you need on your team. Ditto with guys like Connor Gaarder and Steph Pattyn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGHTNSX Hawkey14 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Spotted at university station. And they say UND doesn't have blue chips! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 7:45 PM, tnt said: This draft is a perfect example why blue chip being defined as first round as flawed. Every team had different players rated higher from 12 or so through 50, so each saw players between those numbers as blue chip. There were fans that lamented us not getting Bode Wilde, yet not only did JBD go higher, Wilde isn’t going to Michigan anyway. The fact that a standing All American player like Perunovich wouldn’t be considered blue chip further illustrates that point. You’re too focused on a term :). The term blue chip is from an NHL perspective not a college prospect perspective. There can be many awesome college hockey prospects who are not considered blue chips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: Depends how you define "talented." Some guys are much more "talented" at going into the corners, battling in front of the net, or laying down in front of a slap shot than that high-end early round draft pick. A good hockey team needs both. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, CarpeRemote said: Am I misunderstanding, or are we saying it’s a good idea to intentionally recruit some less talented players over high-end talent? I’ve passionately followed recruiting and seen the results for decades. There are exceptions to everything but elite programs intentionally going after mid-level players is a new concept to me. Some former mid-lower tier programs like Ohio State used to ignore Minnesota kids in exchange for grinders from Dublin Ohio. But not anymore, they have several kids from Minnesota, and countries like Canada, Ukraine, Germany, and New Jersey With an 85 man football roster it’s not unusual for the blue bloods to scholarship one legacy player and one or two 3-4th yr proven walk-ones. But hockey and BB don’t have much room for an average year. Maybe I’m wrong I wouldn’t call them mid level players. Typically they are players very good at what they do (grinding, penalty kill, etc). Many times these types of players put up big numbers in a junior league however are more mid range at the college level. Still good players though, sometimes these types of players even crack the nhl serving that same role...because they are elite at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: I wouldn’t call them mid level players. Typically they are players very good at what they do (grinding, penalty kill, etc). Many times these types of players put up big numbers in a junior league however are more mid range at the college level. Still good players though, sometimes these types of players even crack the nhl serving that same role...because they are elite at it. Hence the term "role players." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsmack Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Look at all the high end talent David Quinn brought into BU over his tenure and how many natty’s they’ve won over that time period. If we’re wringing our hands over our non-productive junior class, one can only imagine what Terriers fans must be thinking with all the talent they’ve had but no title (yet) to show for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Godsmack said: Look at all the high end talent David Quinn brought into BU over his tenure and how many natty’s they’ve won over that time period. If we’re wringing our hands over our non-productive junior class, one can only imagine what Terriers fans must be thinking with all the talent they’ve had but no title (yet) to show for it. Sounds like the Dave Hakstol era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrkac Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/20/2018 at 2:15 PM, tnt said: http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/news/nhl-mock-draft-2018-picks-order-projections-rasmus-dahlin-sabres-canadiens-blackhawks-rangers/1wwd425dls1km1pjod5zbjj4sc Wouldn't it be cool if both Tychonick and Bernard Docker got drafted by the same team as this mock has? They certainly would be able to grow together, but then if one leaves early, does the other too? nice call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 One blue chippa per year isn’t so much to ask for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, gfhockey said: One blue chippa per year isn’t so much to ask for We have you. What else do we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 90siouxfan Posted June 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2018 lol, does eating blue paint chips make gfhookey a blue chippa? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, 90siouxfan said: lol, does eating blue paint chips make gfhookey a blue chippa? Paint chips could have lead which in turn could cause lead poisoning, not a good idea. gfhockey is a keeper and our inside guy in the gobc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 7 hours ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Paint chips could have lead which in turn could cause lead poisoning, not a good idea. gfhockey is a keeper and our inside guy in the gobc. Its upnto u guys if u keep wanting inside info. Quite frankly some of the gobc is appalled at some of your behaviors 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Its upnto u guys if u keep wanting inside info. Quite frankly some of the gobc is appalled at some of your behaviors Maybe not so much part of the GOBC, but maybe more in the vain of Captain Obvious or you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 13 hours ago, 90siouxfan said: lol, does eating blue paint chips make gfhookey a blue chippa? Just add a $12.00 case of Keystone light and we're set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 20 hours ago, Godsmack said: Look at all the high end talent David Quinn brought into BU over his tenure and how many natty’s they’ve won over that time period. If we’re wringing our hands over our non-productive junior class, one can only imagine what Terriers fans must be thinking with all the talent they’ve had but no title (yet) to show for it. His tenure more like in and out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: His tenure more like in and out Quite a few one and done, and two and done. I think Quinn was a perfect example of why you can't load up on first-round draft choices and expect to just win titles. You have to build a team with high-end talent and role players that will kill penalties, check top lines and grind out minutes. You have to have chemistry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Goon said: Quite a few one and done, and two and done. I think Quinn was a perfect example of why you can't load up on first-round draft choices and expect to just win titles. You have to build a team with high-end talent and role players that will kill penalties, check top lines and grind out minutes. You have to have chemistry. ... and a goalie that isn't afraid of his own shadow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Anyone have any info on which UND players are at development camps? I’ve heard about pool man and Cole smith. I would think nick jones would get an invite after the year he had last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Relevant to the #bluechippaz discussion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nodakgirl93 Posted June 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: Relevant to the #bluechippaz discussion Really interesting when you remind yourself who has won the natty the last four years ; duluth, denver, und and providence # Blue chippas dont win natties on their own (/s) 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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