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21 minutes ago, Old Fella said:

Happy to see the 'no politics' is no longer being enforced.

It is important, with all that is happening in the white house, that all 'cult' members have a place to vent their fustrations/anger

Politics? What does being mentally incompetent have to do with politics? Oh wait......nevermind. :lol:

But don't worry Old Fella you'll still get your check(s).

#thoseunwillingtowork

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Now back to the thread. How many decades has the goal of the US been to be fossil fuel independent yet once achieved, which the US is, we're going to scrap those fuels altogether?

 

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14 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Politics? What does being mentally incompetent have to do with politics? Oh wait......nevermind. :lol:

But don't worry Old Fella you'll still get your check(s).

#thoseunwillingtowork

You Win.

Funny you should mention 'mentally incompetent'

Cult members are very familiar with that affliction.

Tell me more about the checks/sounds interesting.

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The whole state of North Dakota can shut down if the Green New Deal gets implemented.

Cars would all go Electric and electrics are just totally inefficient in the winter at below freezing (never mind at -30)

Tractors would all have to be electric too.  The battery packs woud be enormous and cost a fortune.

Cattle would all have to be sold off until a non farting one is developed.  But people would be forced to become vegans.

All buildings would be torn down and new energy efficient ones built.  Sod huts may be allowed.

All flights for the proletariat would be disallowed until an electric plane is introduced.  The high speed trains tracks built wouldn’t be for rural areas.  Hawaii would have to build tunnels under the ocean for the high speed trains to keep tourism.

The oil fields would be shut down.

The only silver lining is that the state would have high density wind towers exporting power elsewhere.  That way LM Glas Fiber can import more Somalis to build their blades.

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11 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

The whole state of North Dakota can shut down if the Green New Deal gets implemented.

Cars would all go Electric and electrics are just totally inefficient in the winter at below freezing (never mind at -30)

Tractors would all have to be electric too.  The battery packs woud be enormous and cost a fortune.

Cattle would all have to be sold off until a non farting one is developed.  But people would be forced to become vegans.

All buildings would be torn down and new energy efficient ones built.  Sod huts may be allowed.

All flights for the proletariat would be disallowed until an electric plane is introduced.  The high speed trains tracks built wouldn’t be for rural areas.  Hawaii would have to build tunnels under the ocean for the high speed trains to keep tourism.

The oil fields would be shut down.

The only silver lining is that the state would have high density wind towers exporting power elsewhere.  That way LM Glas Fiber can import more Somalis to build their blades.

And the Sun will come up in the west.

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10 minutes ago, Old Fella said:

And the Sun will come up in the west.

But there will be a user tax on that too if one reads the fine print

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16 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

Now back to the thread. How many decades has the goal of the US been to be fossil fuel independent yet once achieved, which the US is, we're going to scrap those fuels altogether?

 

The goal of the U.S. was to make it to the moon.  They achieved that goal, but times change and it doesn't make sense to continue to keep that as your goal.

Same with energy.  You don't need to scrap those fuels all together right now, but you need to supplement it with something that is sustainable.  A couple hundred miles from me, a city that was built 400 years ago is going to be destroyed because of the push for coal mining.  That makes zero sense.  You don't need to expand the use of fossil fuels, every country should be expanding the use of renewable energy and working toward making that sustainable.

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Cut the politics. With this thread, some political proposals will have an effect on the future of the western nd oil patch. Go ahead and discuss those proposals in an educated manner, without taking personal/political shots at the individual(s) behind the proposals.

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On 2/9/2019 at 1:41 PM, darell1976 said:

We finally get the bullet train to run between Fargo and GF. 

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Because of the elimination of flatulent bovines there'll be less need for feed grains. And less need for grasslands for grazing. 

That's good because elimination of fossil fuels means we'll need the space for solar panels. 

My rough calcs say we'll need 18 sq miles of panels just to replace Coal Creek Station at Underwood (assumes 200W per meter panels, 50% density to allow for infrastructure, and 4x the number of panels due to just 6 productive hours per day, and on site storage capacity for 18 hours of electricity*). 

But remember, all the cars and transportation will now be non-fossil fuel. That too will have to be electric. So you're going to need another "Coal Creek" just for transportation conversion to electric. At least. 

 

*Such storage tech doesn't exist today at this 1.2 gigawatt scale. 

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12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Because of the elimination of flatulent bovines there'll be less need for feed grains. And less need for grasslands for grazing. 

That's good because elimination of fossil fuels means we'll need the space for solar panels. 

My rough calcs say we'll need 18 sq miles of panels just to replace Coal Creek Station at Underwood (assumes 200W per meter panels, 50% density to allow for infrastructure, and 4x the number of panels due to just 6 productive hours per day, and on site storage capacity for 18 hours of electricity*). 

But remember, all the cars and transportation will now be non-fossil fuel. That too will have to be electric. So you're going to need another "Coal Creek" just for transportation conversion to electric. At least. 

 

*Such storage tech doesn't exist today at this 1.2 gigawatt scale. 

I assume this would include Bison flatulent.  Not all bad.  At least it would quit stinking up SS.

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