dakota fairways
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Not even joking waaaaaaaaaay better than Roughriders... truly... which is also truly sad... Roughriders may be popular on a thread called North Dakota Roughriders... but it will never be the new nickname. "young grasshoppers" that now attend UND and pay tuition will A, dislike the name, and B, I'd never chose to go to a college that was just name the Roughriders.. once again, maybe we don't need a cool/trendy name but something this simple can attract or deter people from UND.. People come here because of our tradition, not many people come to UND on the notion of education alone.. believe it or not kids are attracted to places for other reasons than education.. i.e. nicknames, sports, drinking, etc.. may sound stupid but its the truth. And I bet if this forum had more younger people I could get many to agree..
Really? Really? Of all the great reasons to choose to go to the University of North Dakota, you would not attend UND if its athletic teams were called the North Dakota Roughriders, but you would attend if the teams were called the North Dakota Roughnecks? As much as I personally dislike Roughnecks as a nickname for the athletic teams, it would not stop me from choosing UND. To pass on the opportunities that can come as a result of having the University of North Dakota on your resume because of a nickname just seems short-sighted.
And yet people go to school in places where their nickname is Cornhuskers, Tar Heels, Sooners, Jayhawks, Anteaters, Billikens, Boilermakers, Boll Weevils, Catamounts Banana Slugs, Salukis, etc. Do I need to go on? Some of those are some huge schools. But these are some bad nicknames. A nickname is going to be a very small factor in someone deciding on a school. Plus, as these nickname threads have shown, there is a very wide discrepancy in what people like and don't like in a nickname.not to mention gophers!
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Amazing how one man's garbage is another man's treasures. I was thinking that Nokota's was my least favorite until I heard Roughnecks. This should be an interesting process.
However, I don't see the interest in Roughnecks. (from Wikipedia--Roughneck (or ruffneck) is a slang term for an unskilled or slightly-skilled labourer).
In honor of the Red Pepper. The University of North Dakota Grinders. It is suppertime!
UND Red Peppers - something every UND student & alum for the past 50 years has in common
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Good points but roughriders/calvary is NOT a good replacement name and i'll fight that til my death. I'm not saying we should be the Transformers or something incredibly stupid in that "trendy, cool" way.. just something new and unheard of that is cool.. which I think we can figure out.
choose your battles wisely grasshopper, and you may live to fight a better battle another day.
Roughriders (or Rough Riders) is easily one of the top 5 names on this forum, probably second only to Fighting Sioux.
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Hey I said Merry Christmas last year to you guys. Unfortunately I never got one back but I tried. Oh and yes I still do hangout there also.
Merry Christmas DI & all the other posters on this board from a newbie
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Yeah right nice try. I don't think you would want to see the results of a NDSU UND football game this year or next or for that matter any time during over the last 7 years. The UND mens Basketball team will find out soon enough on Saturday. The reality is as much as some of your fans would like to think NDSU needs this game NDSU doesn't. You guys really needed it and still do to try to get und's football team back in the spotlight. Face it you are a hockey school first. Have been for the last 40 or so years and always will be. I'm going to enjoy seeing Montana, Montana State and EWU along with Davis and Poly wipe you guys off the field. You can compete with the Idaho's and the UNC's of the Big Sky.
The Big Sky conference will put UND in the spotlight. Now that the Sioux have a conference home of the quality of the Big Sky, the recruits will come and the wins will too. UND is able to win championships against the Minnesota's, Wisconsin's and Michigan's of the hockey world. They will also learn to win in the world of Montana, Montana State, and the rest of the BSC.
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Well by the same logic when applied to the "Fighting Sioux" nickname, various Tribal elders and the Tribal Chairman of SR didn't object to the nickname in 1969 and so we "should" have been safe, right? If we adopt "Roughriders" and use the approval of David Gipp, RHHIT and Phil Jackson's approval as some sense of security that there will be no problems with it in the future, we are ignoring what has happened already. Who are the next nut jobs a la David Gipp, RRHIT and Phil Jackson (this guy is a genuine freak show and I don't care what kind of success he's had in the NBA with all of that talent and I don't care that he grew up in Williston) going to be? Will the next generation of nut jobs remember the "approval" of David Gipp, RRHIT and Phil Jackson? These troglodytes do not even respect a sacred ceremony fully in line with Tribal traditions concerning the approval of the Sioux nickname. Does anyone think that the next generation of troglodytes is going to care what David Gipp, RRHIT and Phil Jackson thought about the "Roughriders" nickname? How long does anyone think it would take for the next batch to lay unsubstantiated anecdotal claims of that nickname being "hostile and abusive" and how long does anyone think it would take for the next batch to lay claims of Roughriders having fought and killed NA's in the early 20th Century, etc.? The Roughriders did actually do that. It would be about 15 years until the whole "Cowboy vs. Indian" thing would be so viewed. If "Roughriders" who fought and killed NA's in Western ND is ok, what's wrong with "Fighting Cavalry"? I like the latter one better. Hell, that should not even be perceived as "hostile and abusive" since the Cavalry got it's butt kicked at the Little Big Horn.
actually, the Rough Riders fought in Cuba, not western North Dakota. Some of the members of the Rough Riders were Native Americans, fighting alongside Roosevelt, not against him.
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You couldn't be more wrong. For those who want to beleive that Oh so many people want to see this happen there are Oh so many who are glad it's not happening and also glad you are not in the same conference as NDSU. Good lord people move on you are in the BSC. Be happy with that and stop obsessing over NDSU. Besides this thread title is about just that isn't it? I think you will be glad you have the flexibility in scheduling now rather than being locked into a yearly affair with one school. I'm sure your AD will be to.
wonder why NDSU is "so glad" they don't have to play the Sioux? especially after the Sioux have had a chance to catch up in recruiting and with the Big Sky on their schedule!
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Maybe UND can force Red River to get a new nickname!
Red River Channel Cats - naah!
Red River Pirates - nada!
or let them keep Roughriders
make it University of North Dakota Rough Riders
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Let's try get back on topic....
Other than geography, which may or may not be a valid reason, is there any good reason that the Summit/MVFC would be better than the Big Sky?
I remember being very disappointed when NDSU and SDSU were turned down for the Big Sky back in 2004. [edit: also was disappointed when Cal Poly & UC Davis were invited in September but UND was not] I don't think it was just me, but a general feeling across the whole region. The Big Sky was the destination conference everyone wanted for D-I and now it looked like that door was closed and would not open for the Sioux when the time came for UND to find a D-I conference home. The Big Sky is the golden ring that all four schools wanted when they moved to D-I, and UND being the only one who ultimately got the invitation makes the move even better.
The perception of the Mid-Con was raised considerably when NDSU & SDSU joined them. The irony of that is that D-II upgrades raised the way the conference was looked at before they had even been D-I long enough to qualify for the post season. Cudos to the SU's for doing that for the Summit, but the fact remains that D-II schools were an upgrade for an existing D-I conference. As for the MVFC, it is a solid conference that has a very stable history as the Gateway, maybe even better than the Big Sky, since Big Sky schools tend to move up to the WAC, but IMHO the Big Sky has more recognition and esteem than the MVFC. On top of that, the Big Sky offers opportunities to develop rivalries with the same schools across football and basketball, that consistency will also help fan interest.
Recruiting athletes to play in Big Sky destinations should be easier than Summit/MVFC locations. There are no Summit or MVFC schools in Minnesota or Wisconsin, so there should not be a disadvantage for the Sioux to recruit in the traditional Sioux recruiting grounds. Then add the western US to the UND recruiting footprint and things should only get better. As for the argument that families will not be able to follow their student athletes in the Big Sky, especially in the winter, would you rather go watch your son/daughter in a warm weather or ski destination; or in Detroit, Kansas City or Tulsa?
The size of the conference may be an issue, but I do not think it is a disqualifier, either. The Big Sky is already too spread out to be a bus trip conference, as is the Great West. Other than the old NCC schools, the Summit/MVFC is not a bus conference for UND either. Whether you are traveling 5 hours by bus or by plane, the difference in the time on the road is probably not significant. The Sioux can still schedule out of conference games with NDSU, SDSU, USD and even Northern Iowa. This may be a blessing in disguise, since OOC games may not have to be scheduled against Stony Brook or Northeastern State. OOC games will have more fan appeal against the Dakota schools and potential rivalries in the Big Sky are very appealing.
So, a long winded answer to your question, but yes, IMHO the Big Sky move for UND is indeed a really good thing and it is even better when a school like Montana chooses to remain in the Big Sky. I would rather see Montana, Montana State, Idaho State, et al on the schedule every year than South, East, West Illinois on one schedule and Oakland, IUPUI, IPFW on another. NDSU, SDSU, USD can still be scheduled as OOC games, if it works out, and it more than likely will as the athletic departments of all the schools get an opportunity to look forward and plan for upcoming seasons.
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Make iit " River Pirates" and you can tie it to the area. Tough to have a name that long so it would be shortened to Pirates.
Thanks to all for the votes of confidence. Didn't wish to tie up this Conference blog with whether or not the NDSU guys thinks someone here has credibility. I'm to old to be offended and he has a point in that I am probably full of hot air. He could have made fun of me for spelling cite with an s in a previous blog but only my former UND roommate sent me a text pointing out my spelling error. I would state he is a District Judge in North Dalota but my friend from NDSU might "call me" on that too.
Anyway, this should get back to the Big Sky blog. Thanks again to the Fighting Sioux family.
Doesn't that describe a lot of us?
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It seems a push for a new nickname has started on this thread: "The pirates"... darrrrr matey.
aye aye cap'n
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they have the Trailblazers 82Sioux named
also noticed there are no
Sundogs (not sure about weather, but don't hate it)
Prairie Dogs
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The WAC office & Benson sure have been quiet lately... Do they have a last second rabbit in their hat or do they see the handwriting on the wall?
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Su-nami
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How about Explorers, Plainsmen, Miners (Lignite), Prairie Hawks, or Mudcats
LaSalle (PA) Explorers
Texas - ElPaso & Missouri S&T Miners
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Maybe it's supposed to be Corpse of Discovery...
knew that was coming
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According to Wiki, North Dakota is the only Fighting Sioux.
There are several other teams that use native american names, such as Florida State Seminoles, Illinois Fighting Illini, Central Michigan Chippewas, Utah Utes.
No teams listed:
Badlanders
Corps of Discovery
Nokotas / Wild Nokotas
Roughriders
Soo / Soo Line
Stallions
Trailblazers
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Minn State Mavericks
Ohio State is in the CCHA
Thanks. Fixed it - added Ohio State as Women's WCHA team
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Conference Realignments
in NCAA News
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Hawai'i announcing they are joining the Big West Conference in non-football and their football team is joining Mountain West at this moment .
WAC is down to 5 old teams (Idaho, Utah St, San Jose, New Mexico St & La Tech) and 3 new ones (Texas St, UT SA, Denver). Sure has become a southwest conference.
Who will be next?