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  1. 3 minutes ago, Fighting Sioux 23 said:

    I don't believe anyone was suggesting that UND should do nothing and simply wait for another championship.  I also don't believe that UND is sitting on its hands waiting for the clock to strike 12 again.  However, some historical perspective is necessary with a certain portion of our fanbase at the moment.  Particularly those that point out Denver's current run as if that is what they've been doing for 75 years.  They have not (and I did not even mention in my original post DU's 35-year wander through the desert before pulling a miracle in 2004).  

     

    I'd also challenge you on your assertion that there are "just as many" historical programs that fade into history and don't bounce back.  Historically, that is untrue.  The only programs that would come close to having faded away and not bounced back (at least, in my opinion) are LSSU and Maine.  LSSU had one decade of greatness, and I would not consider them to be a "historical program."  Maine gets closer to that status (about a 2 decade run of greatness, with two titles). But Maine has also now made significant investments in its program and finally made the tournament again.  We will see how their program responds here in the next few seasons.  Regardless, what makes a "historical program" is their ability to compete consistently over the course of time.  Almost by definition, they do not "fade into history."  

     

    I'd also point out that BC (York), Minnesota (Lucia), and Michigan (Berenson), have won a grand total of 0 National Championships since departing with their legendary coaches.  You could throw BU (Parker) in that mix as well.  

    I get the perspective, and likely agree more than I disagree. All things equal, I think a change is necessary to start the upswing and now’s the time. Curious what you’re suggesting exactly? 

    I personally believe it’s also clear that all those programs I mentioned are in much better shape than they were before making the coaching change, but we can split hairs on whether being a NC runner-up the last two years (BC and UMN) and multiple FF’s (Mich) is success or your point implying it’s not…when comparing to UNDs ongoing struggles. 
     

    Regardless, appreciate the perspective and attempt to calm the overreactions and hope this debate is old history come this time next year. 

  2. 2 hours ago, Fighting Sioux 23 said:

    While green banners are obviously the "most" memorable seasons, they are certainly not the only seasons that we remember.  I fondly remember the 1997-1998, 1998-1999, 2000-2001, 2003-2004, 2004-2005, 2007-2008, 2010-2011, 2014-2015, 2019-2020, and 2020-2021 runs.  They didn't end with national titles, but they were great seasons.  

     

    Also, people are constantly bringing up Denver.  No doubt the Pios are on a run.  But they are quick to forget the Pios "awful" stretch between 2005 and 2016.  10 seasons.  0 National Titles.  0 Frozen Fours.  2 Regional Finals in 8 NCAA Tournaments (2-8 overall record).  2 missed NCAA Tournaments. 

     

    As others have said, these things are cyclical.  Michigan had a historical run in the late '40s / early '50s  (6 titles in 9 seasons).  DU had a historical run in the late '50's / '60s. (5 titles in 12 seasons).  Wisconsin had a historical run in the '70s / early 80's (4 titles in 11 seasons).  BC had a historical run in the '00s / early '10s (4 titles in 12 seasons).  DU may currently be in the midst of another historical run (which, I guess I'm defining as 4 titles in 12 or fewer seasons).

     

    One of the unique things about North Dakota's history, is that we have not had such a historical run, but we have been the most consistent program in college hockey history.  Our time atop the mountain will come again.  And if history repeats itself, that time will likely be sooner than some of us believe.

    Thank you for pulling together the history lesson. Certainly interesting and helpful to add some historical perspective when it’s easy to just dwell on the recent past. 
     

    The only thing I worry about is the (perceived) mentality from some that past success/cycles indicate future success. There are just as many historical programs that fade into history and don’t bounce back. Simply waiting for the cycle to work its way out or expecting we’ll just stay at the top because we always have been is a recipe for fading out of relevance. Holding for Sears and Blockbuster on line 1.  
     

    Programs generally have a catalyst that helps lead the cyclical upswing - new coach being one often talked about here (not saying I agree or it’s the only one). It obviously wasn’t easy to part with York, Lucia, Berenson, etc. but we’ve seen how that’s reinvigorated those programs. Every other program is fighting for every possible advantage, if UND doesn’t fight just as hard, possibly make some tough decisions, and be willing to deeply reflect on what needs to change in the postseason, what’s happened before may not matter…

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  3. 23 minutes ago, Irish said:

    By lucky you must mean "show up for the 3rd period" - so according to this thread Denver is the luckiest team ever and we are the unluckiest.  Nonsense

    I won’t keep belaboring my disbelief with the “some teams just have all the luck” crowd (and we’d be great / competing for championships if only we weren’t so damn unlucky every single year).

    What I saw? DU was composed and confident throughout. Psychologically they were rock solid even under intense pressure. Their goalie and team D bought in and made the right decisions in nearly every play, with no major breakdowns. They had a game plan and executed it. They showed up repeatedly in OT through the FF and when the game was on the line, even against greater talent. They got some luck, but played well enough to capitalize on it and/or overcome the bad bounces. They quoted you go to DU to win championships and I believed they believed. Felt the same under Sandelin for a while.

    This seems to be the contrast to UND teams lately..it feels like they don’t believe, and need things to go their way or else they start to break (not bend). I know many of us fans don’t believe right now. Players under Hakstol talked about believing in the curse of getting over the FF hump, so you know players pay attention. Some coaches get their team to believe and others don’t. I honestly wonder at this point if Berry and the staff believes they will win or if they’re trying to play not to lose? Just speculation and I’m sure it’s a lot more complicated than that, but whatever a “winning culture” is..

    Anyway, kudos to DU and congrats on bringing home another title to the NCHC. May you lose all your top players and have a down year in 2024.

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  4. 2 minutes ago, burd said:

    I hope someone is with Buccigross

    Wellness check time for Bucci. Sounded like someone kicked his puppy the longer it went and his superstars didn’t score..

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  5. 8 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

    On your last paragraph, I'd absolutely not pin it all on bad luck. It's also not poor coaching, from what I've seen. We've been in the position to win all of the tourney games we've lost. I'd put it in the category of "that's hockey". What else could it be, honestly? Who should be blamed? That feels like the white rabbit we've been chasing in this conversation for several years now.

    I'd put that goal into bad bounce, yes. Bad decision, but it hit off his teammates skate. Call it bad luck. Of course it's not all bad luck, but there are some on here that think it virtually means nothing. 

    Loss in first round of tourney against BU... outplayed them and bad luck on the offside call that legit led to a rule change. Loss to Duluth in 5OT, carried all OTs, IMO, had several unfortunate bounces not go in, pipes, shots bouncing off goalie onto the top of the net, etc. The first three goals for Michigan, none of them bounced our way.

    Absolutely doesn't tell the entire story, but some tout that 1 win since 2016 thing like UND is getting destroyed in the tournament since 2016. Each loss has been in OT or what happened against Michigan, a one goal game with three awful bounces/bad luck. I'd argue we played better in all of those games and didn't get enough bounces. I'm saying that we've had a crap ton of unfortunate stuff happen over the past several years in the tournament. It's not a controversial take, IMO

    Respectfully disagree (in part), but it’s cool that we have both sides of the debate here. 
     

    If we were to talk to the other teams fans or coaches in all those same games, or take off our green-tinted glasses, they’d point out their own bad luck/bounces and be just as right (several waived off goals, their own key injuries, things that came to light after the season ended, TWO empty netters to tie it, UND having home ice and/or crowd advantage, talent, facilities, resources, all the bad calls or breaks other end that we didn’t notice because that’s how sports go, etc.). Cherry picking the things that weren’t perfect for UND and connecting that to defend the ongoing string of losses can mostly be chalked up to we were unlucky a lot continues to imply these things are just happening to one team. They happen on both sides, but are now a TREND for UND, not a bad luck bounce. I can almost guarantee Berry and the staff aren’t sitting around moaning about 8 years of bad bounces that always go against them (and if they are, count me in the fire Berry crowd). 
     

    Michigan came out FLAT. UND had an incredible opportunity to capitalize for a big chunk of that game, against a team that even when they’re not flat, aren’t a world-beater by any stretch. And in my book, had the easiest 1 seed to go through this year, despite blowing the end of the season and a home crowd and #1 seed that were almost guarantees at one point. But they managed again to find a way to lose, instead of win. UMD, Notre Dame, etc. as have been pointed out…we had more than our share of breaks. BU? Well, that one just flat out sucked and UND was as close to deserving a win in a game they lost there as I’ve seen. Would have been the best game/crowd atmosphere I’d ever been to if a bounce went the other way, and I’m onboard with that just being an unlucky one. BU would argue playing in Fargo in front of a packed and RABID UND fan base when they were the higher seed was pretty unlucky I bet, and no doubt influenced their play. 
     

    I’m not sure what the answer is here, but do believe the coaching staff has to figure something out vs “have better luck next year”. And I’m also pretty sure (and hope) they would say the same thing. 

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  6. 17 hours ago, siouxweet said:

    Throughout his career he gave up a number of softies.

    All goalies will give up a few…felt his bad game was just at the worst time. He won the Richter and was UND’s all-time leader in career goals against and save percentage after all…I guess in my book that makes him pretty good. 

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  7. 12 hours ago, Blackheart said:

    Gofer season is over...they officially got Motz-KO'd! 

    While I can enjoy this as much as anyone here…really sucks we’re relegated to celebrating other teams losing, especially Gofers only winning one game in the tourney after back to back frozen fours and a championship appearance - while we’ve continued the losing streak or not even making it. I don’t think I’ll be getting in their face anytime soon about Motzko not getting it done, at least until Brad can prove he can win any games again in March or April. 

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  8. 27 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

    People get crucified on this board for saying parity is a factor, but ignoring it, especially in a game that is often a one-bounce game, is just wild to me. I think many fans don't have reasonable expectations anymore, frankly. The overreactions are absolutely obnoxious and drips with entitlement. A large amount of our fanbase sees every loss we have as "the boys aren't trying hard enough" or "they aren't real Sioux" or "the boys don't care enough" or "Bubs can't get them up for a big game", and that's what bothers me. We seem to have this expectation (not all of us, but some -- still the minority, but a loud and vocal one) that we should win every game just because we're North Dakota and that's how it works. College hockey is just different now than it used to be . Added parity with how the game of hockey works, we now have a game that is anyone's game each night. 

    More often than not, the best team wins. I'm hoping we're the best team tonight. And if we don't, it's not due to a magic potion whispered from Bubs, it's because we played better and finished our chances. 

     

    I get it. And don’t disagree that the extremes of the argument on both sides get ridiculous and tiring. My guess is you feel the need to over-index on defending the team to balance out all the negative crap; I appreciate that and am sure it gets old for you too. 
     

    Last point on the concocted blame (bubs magic whisperings). I can tell when my car, appliance, etc isn’t performing when I need it to. I may not know why, but that shouldn’t be required of me as a consumer. It’s up to the engineer to figure out and address if they want my business.
     

    Fans are just trying to rationalize why the postseason result is SO consistently not matching the expectation. To argue the opposite side and defend as if a coach has no say in this ( parity, prep/strategy, game/psychological readiness, culture, etc) implies that the best coaches out there really don’t do anything differently than the good. I don’t agree; even if I don’t have access and/or expertise to tell you the difference. 

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  9. 3 hours ago, brianvf said:

    Added Lindberg to the list!
    Updated stats thru 1/4:

    USHL (Forwards)

    • Croal (Muskegon) - '03: 25gp - 11g/16a
    • Panzer (Sioux Falls) - '04: 30gp - 7g/10a
    • Slipec (Chicago) - '05: 21gp - 1g/5a
    • Klee (Muskegon) - '05: 29gp - 8g/11a
    • Swanson (Fargo) - '06: 24gp - 8g/21a
    • Boisvert (Muskegon) - '06: 29gp - 18g/12a
    • O'Neill (NTDP U17) - '07: 28gp - 3g/7a

    USHL (Defenseman)

    • Jubenvill (Dubuque) - '03: 29gp - 5g/6a
    • Strathmann (Youngstown) - '05: 20gp - 5g/15a
    • Emery (NTDP U18) - '06: 30gp - 0g/9a
    • Laurila (NTDP U18) - '06: 30gp - 2g/4a
    • Lindberg (NTDP U17) - '07: 28gp - 1g/3a

    USHL (Goalies)

    • Heil (Sioux Falls) - '06: 13gp - .871/3.54 (6-7-0)

    Other

    • Pilgrim - MN HS - '06: 12gp - 14g/12a
    • Zellers - SSM - '06: 29gp - 28g/27a
    • Schultz - MN HS - '06: 12gp - 7g/10a
    • Littler - BCHL - '04: 11gp - 3g/6a
    • Simpson - MN HS - '07: 13gp - 16g/17a
    • McInnis (AJHL) - '06: 0gp - hasn't played yet since moving to AJHL from USHL

    Thank you for taking the time to compile these updates; really appreciate it!

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  10. Normally I’m focused on UND, but I think this week will be a really interesting tell for Mankato’s season. I expected it to be a dumpster fire after the offseason exodus, but sweeping St. Cloud and being swept by a likely pretty good UMass team isn’t too bad of a start. Of course, St. Cloud is looking so far like they may be pretty bad, definitely the outlier dragging down the NCHC’s OOC record. Have to think it would be pretty huge for the Purple Cows confidence to have a good showing.

    I’m actually rooting for Mankato to find success this year after how Hastings handled things…just not this weekend. Sweep! 

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  11. 49 minutes ago, siouxkid12 said:

    Isn’t that what you’re trying to tell me? Maybe limit yourself in telling people what they consider a rivalry or not.

    Not at all. I (and everyone here) fully acknowledge YOU choose not to consider it a rivalry. And some others do too. Good on you, that’s your choice. The difference is you continue telling everyone else that it’s not a rivalry or they’re wrong to consider it a rivalry. In spite of the team, most of the fan base, and objective measures like ticket demand disagreeing. 

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  12. Two top teams with a ton of speed, I thought UND managed to stay very disciplined and surprisingly structured (given all the roster turnover). Only taking two penalties, and one of those being a clear even-up, is a huge improvement over the chasing, reaching, and panic penalties that plagued the team last year. Talk about a fun start to the season. 

    I can’t fully argue that there’s some gamesmanship going on with Blake making sure the refs see he’s being tripped or hooked. They were all good calls in my eyes, but suspect he could’ve skated through one or two..but while I thought the refs missed a few overall, I appreciated them letting the guys play on both sides…each team had some collisions with goalies, etc but they kept the game under control.

    Also have to say I wasn’t sure what to make out of the coaching decisions on roster last year and heading into this. Great to see the team is just getting to work and aren’t nearly as worried as I was!

  13. Transfer portal seems the most likely for remaining 2+ D needs, but given the limited pool (would have to knock it out of the park on all remaining)…one variable I haven’t heard being talked about is could the coaches be exploring a freshman or two also? Not sure there’s much uncommitted talent out there who would be more college-ready than someone like Strathmann, but a flip could be exciting. Preferably not a depth over-ager somewhere…any thoughts on possible targets? 

  14. 13 hours ago, brianvf said:

    A 3-goal 3rd for DU will do it.  Nice.

    UND in a 3-way tie for 5th now.  Keep it rolling.

    Have to think 5th place finish is most likely hope. Who do we want for the 4 seed matchup, playing in their barn? I have to think Omaha, although we’d get whoever plays worst down the stretch which is okay. If it was neutral, I’d likely take the clowns, but don’t really want them on the Olympic sheet. Really don’t want to play in Lawson and WMU is scary, and I’d be shocked if DU isn’t the 1-seed (not that I’d want them for the matchup). 

  15. 1 hour ago, scpa0305 said:

    Mich was really good last year.

    Agreed…Interesting on here how we justify not having “loaded teams” by reminding how they didn’t win it all. Ie, a loaded team HAS to be a champion or they’re a failure. Just my perspective, but I’d LOVE to watch a team full of first round talent doing ridiculous things on the ice and PP all year who has as good a chance as anyone to win it all, then enjoy as those men go on to be stars in the NHL and provide brand recognition for the next 20 years. 

    Not saying that should be our strategy or is the only way to try to win, but doesn’t sound half bad to me. I don’t think Michigan or BU fans are complaining too much, even if they had sky high expectations that ultimately fell short (just like UND fans do many years when we don’t win it all). Boo on not getting Eiserman and double boo that the Goph’s did. 

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  16. On 4/19/2022 at 4:35 AM, The Sicatoka said:

    So the problem isn't that he didn't listen to his coaches, trainers, and team, isn't that he didn't only take NSF approved supplements, isn't that he ended up with a banned substance at detectable levels in his system. 

    No, the problem is ... he got caught? 

    Not at all, but it appears you’re intentionally conflating issues to support your narrative. I’m saying lots of athletes (his peers) egregiously abuse AAS and banned substances. We know this. But our testing protocol is penalizing Dryden in spite of his proof that he was unknowingly subjected to a compound because of the manufacturer’s wrongdoing...while those peers continue benefiting from an unfair and intentional performance enhancement benefit. If you don’t see why that sucks for him as one of the only athletes being penalized and uncovers a serious flaw in how the NCAA and governing bodies enforce their drug protocols, I don’t know what to tell you. 

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  17. 19 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

    Some supplements are safe and have a place. Supplements aren’t a gimmick. They are a product sold as part of a multi billion dollar industry that is not well regulated. Too much iron can be harmful. Your body needs vitamins but not mega vitamins.  “Clinical studies” referred to in most supplement inserts aren’t valid. There is a reason most supplements include in small print the statement that they aren’t FDA approved and are meant to treat or cure disease or illness. You do what you wish. I don’t think anyone cares nor is it our business. The subject at hand is an athlete who took a banned substance and got caught. I doubt he intended to break rules but he didn’t do his due diligence. Thus,  there are consequences. 

    Now this is common ground I can agree with. Yes, the supplement industry is out of control and buyers should beware and be well informed so they’re not misled. We may disagree on the severity of the consequence and whether this was poor judgment or just a crappy twist of fate, but fair enough! 
     

    I can guarantee there are many college puck players who knowingly ingested SARMS or AAS on the banned list for an extended time to give them an edge, who never faced any consequences as well, which is what imo stinks for Dryden here. 

  18. 1 hour ago, iramurphy said:

    He took Quercetin. That isn’t a “natural Vit d supplement”.  It has never once been shown to be beneficial in either treating or preventing Covid. What moron convinced him to take it? It hasn’t been shown to boost anyone’s immune system either. The other outlandish claims including treatment for cancer are also bogus. The supplement industry is a multibillion dollar industry. The makers of these supplements can make virtually any claim they wish regarding their products and they aren’t obligated to prove their supplements work. They also don’t have to list potential side effects. If anyone is dumb enough to believe products that come in a bottle/box/pill form is “natural” then you aren’t very smart. If the Mankato trainers or medical staff knew he was taking this and didn’t tell him to stop they are partly responsible. Most supplements don’t do what the company claims they do and they have potential side effects. These athletes should be getting proper nutrition in their diets. Most don’t need supplemental vitamins and some vitamins in excess can be harmful. Dr. Don Hensrud who I believe grew up in GF, is a Mayo Clinic physician who is a recognized authority on supplements.  He did an excellent presentation on supplements at a Mayo Conference I attended. Most supplements do no more than give you expensive poop. Too many athletic trainers make the mistake of basing recommendations on hearsay they get from colleagues rather than medical evidence. 
    I don’t feel sorry for this kid. He made a stupid, decision and these are the consequences. College athletes should think before considering taking supplements and check with their team physicians before taking. 

    Ok, you don’t believe in supplements. We get it. ;) Anyone that uses them deserves to have their career tanked? Sure, seems reasonable…

    Having supplemented quite a few things under doctors supervision with before and after labs proving their effectiveness (Vit D, iron, Vit B, and optimizing hormones and lipids) and many hours reading clinical studies (bio hacking/optimization is a hobby) I would say anyone who thinks supplementation is strictly a gimmick and almost always unnecessary is wrong. Is it a silver bullet or a replacement for peak nutrition? Definitely not. Is it an effective tool in the right circumstances? Yes.  

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  19. 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

    If he wanted Vitamin D, why didn’t he take Vitamin D but instead chose this other Quercetin thing as @iramurphysays. Did he go to the store and not know how to spell “D”? 

    And all these athletes are told time and again: Don’t take anything that the team hasn’t cleared! 

    Quercetin is a mainstream supplement. It’s common in “immune boosters”, available everywhere and not banned in any federation. And ostarine was NOT disclosed. How do we know that? It’s illegal to sell for human use stateside, labeled as a research chemical, and NOBODY would reasonably expect it to be in an immune booster sold in the US.

    Yes, we now know it was contaminated (and he proved his case because he won his arbitration appeal) with something that’s illegal to sell because, but he should’ve somehow expected it and now deserves his fate? If you want to crap all over a kids phenomenal career because he took an OTC immune supplement, just in case it could help him avoid missing a once-in-a-lifetime Olympic chance, go ahead.

    Just don’t expect too many people without some odd axe to grind, to agree. 

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