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22 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
It is strange though how he was almost an MVP lock pre acl to can’t keep a starting job. But the good portion of his career takes him out of the Jamarcus Russel discussion on its own.
It’s true, don’t know what changed in his head once he got hurt, but he hasn’t been able to find that magic again that’s for sure.
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12 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
It is strange though how he was almost an MVP lock pre acl to can’t keep a starting job. But the good portion of his career takes him out of the Jamarcus Russel discussion on its own.
http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/positions/qb
Depending on what you consider a comparable draft pick(top 5 picks are fair to me), he wouldn’t even be in the top 10 for his own position all time, arguably in the last 20 years even. Calling him an all time bust is laughable in my view.
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14 hours ago, CMSioux said:
Not a great example, but your point is well taken. Carson is known only as one of the biggest busts in NFL history. Not happy about it as he seems to be a nice person.
This site is the only place on the planet that thinks the above statement is true.
There isn’t a single objective statistic you can point to that puts him anywhere near the discussion of “bust”.
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25 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:
They have a lot of 5th and 6th year guys that are done now, correct?
That’s my understanding, yes.
https://www.siouxfallslive.com/sports/south-dakota-state-football-projected-two-deep
https://gojacks.com/sports/football/roster
Didn’t get through the defense, but on offense if this 2 deep is accurate, they lose their 2 best receivers, starting TE, starting RB and 4/5 starting o line.
But who knows with the Covid year still playing a role in some of these kids’ eligibility. Also, have zero doubt that sdsu has studs ready to step in for everyone they lose.
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44 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:
Maintaining success is harder than obtaining it, you are correct on that point, so we'll have to watch SDSU to see if they can keep it going. But they have the facilities and a growing national reputation for winning. The thing to watch is if their new head coach can keep the train on the tracks and build on what was given to him.
Their current run has been accomplished with all of the same players. I’m already very impressed with SDSU, but if this run continues into next year, I’ll be the first to admit they’ve overtaken NDSU as the dominant FCS team. As of now, they’re on a great run, but let’s see if they can do it with the next crop of players the way NDSU did.
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3 hours ago, Und246 said:
The reason the kid decommitted from NDSU to SDSU is SDSU is simply better than NDSU right now. SDSU is the place to be. Not complicated.
I’m sure you talked to him and understand exactly why he switched. By your logic SDSU was already better when he committed to NDSU in the first place.
To reduce such a complicated decision for an 18 year old kid to “SDSU is better, it’s not complicated” is a silly notion. This is a very complicated decision for a kid that grew up a Bison fan.-
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2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said:
That's what people used to think about Miami (the one in Florida) when they were winning almost every game for a decade. And Colorado was garbage for decades after being good before Coach Prime came along to give them some hope. Nothing is "too big to fail".
NDSU isn't exactly collapsing, but they have clearly been surpassed by SDSU (and even lost a player to them). And other programs are always working overtime to get better. The wheel never stops turning. Even Rome eventually fell.
NDSU is fine. They will continue to be the class of FCS football. SDSU is on a hell of a run, there’s no doubt, but let’s see if they can reload heading into next year. This “passing of the torch” may be short lived.
As far as the running back who flipped his commitment, I’m not sure it’s a coincidence that he flipped his commitment the day after ndsu loses its head coach. Maybe it was a toss up in his mind between ndsu and sdsu to begin with and when ndsu lost its coach and there is uncertainty, making a change for him made sense. I’m not panicking on recruiting over one player in these circumstances
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46 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:
Messingham eventually got appreciated
Good point. He is potentially the only example, but he also happened to coach teams that only lost 1 time in 2 years, not a ton to complain about during that time. People still complained that his offenses were predictable and boring if I remember correctly though.
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7 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
I remember their entire fanbase hating him as an OC at different times. Bison fans can feel free to chime in if I am wrong.
NDSU fans haven’t been happy with a single offensive coordinator in the last 25 years. I can’t name one in my adult life that was appreciated while they were at NDSU.
Vigen recruited, developed and coached three nfl draft draft picks at the QB position(wentz and stick(just recruited)and then Josh Allen at Wyoming) and people still thought he wasn’t good enough. I’m proud to be an NDSU fan, but the expectations of the fanbase are completely out of control.
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1 hour ago, JohnboyND7 said:
Is that even the case?
Even most blue blood assistants don't make seven figures. USC is private so who knows if we'll ever even know.
My guess is he’ll make between 800k-1 mil
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3 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
So he will be making around 800-900k to coach linebackers?
Yeah about that I’d estimate
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14 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:
Absolutely serious. A position coach?
Not a rhetorical question here.
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1 minute ago, Prison_Mike said:
Okay, I agree with you. Being a linebacker coach at at Big 10 school is more prestigious than being the head football coach at NDSU…
I know you meant that as a shot at NDSU, but it’s absolutely true.
A linebackers coach at a good P5 program in todays game is a significant upgrade over any head coaching job in the FCS
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What are you guys even talking about here? You think this is a demotion? What world are you all living in?
USC is a blue blood powerhouse and is moving into a top 2 college league, they have access to 4 and 5 star recruits every year. Coaches revel in coaching at the highest level of ball they can. On top of that he’ll be making at least double what he does at ndsu. Where’s the downside for him?
I haven’t been a fan of Entz and honestly I’m happy he’s moving on, but to call this a demotion is absolutely bonkers.
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1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
No one is arguing this point.
Really? Because the post I responded to asked if a coach would be criticized for not delivering an impassioned pregame speech. So kinda feels like the point was being argued.
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3 minutes ago, CMSioux said:
Did you see Nelson's pre-game comments to his team just before they left the locker room for the field - wonder if he gets trashed by USD fans for his low-key approach?
I’ve been in plenty of pregame speeches and almost none of them were Herb Brooks or Vince Lombardi style fire and brimstone. If you play division I football and need to be motivated by a pregame speech then you’re doing it wrong. The magic is in the weekly preparation.
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12 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:
Which FBS teams? G5 or P5. Because G5 and P5 are in the same subdivision in name only.
A mixture of both. Working from memory, players have gone to LSU, Kansas St, Colorado State, Coastal Carolina, James Madison, South Florida.
edit to add after looking up a couple: Virginia, West Virginia
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1 hour ago, Sioux>Bison said:
UND hockey has always competed with bigger $$$ as in the NHL. Hard to convince a kid to stay in the ncaa when they see those easy $$$$ to leave early. NIL will only help programs like UND retain these elite players longer
I may not be phrasing my question well here, but what I’m asking is UND positioned well to compete with its peers for NIL money in ncaa hockey? The dynamic with the NHL money hasn’t changed, to your point, but UND hockey competes against schools that have some incredibly wealthy and enormous alumni bases. Do you anticipate NIL money becoming the factor in hockey that it’s become in football?
I know UND loves and supports its hockey and maybe I’m naive to the level at which UND has alumni financial support, but I don’t believe if Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State or even Minnesota decided to pull together significant NIL support that UND could pull together similar money. I could be way off base here.
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53 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said:
It’s not going to be a major influence at FCS or even G5. It will be a factor, but not a factor like the very top.
I was asking specifically about hockey, but I disagree that NIL won’t be a major influence at FCS or G5. The best players at those levels will continue to be poached every year from the big boys with even minimal amounts. FCS will be significantly diminished in its talent level in my view as a result.
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4 minutes ago, AJS said:
For the elite of the elite players, yes. Overall, no.
If it becomes a major influence will UND be positioned well to stay as competitive as they’ve been?
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Don’t mean to move the conversation in a different direction, but genuinely curious if the NIL “world” has been a major influence in hockey yet.
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Just now, SIOUXFAN97 said:
starting next year your search results will show 0 for the ndac and 0 for the flagship U
I hear those words “next year” from UND fans a lot.
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I’ve been searching for articles slamming former UND QB’s in the NFL, having trouble finding one for some reason.
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1 minute ago, Hawkster said:
But you also need to consider what every time that's had Wentz had to give up in order to get him. Some teams, especially Philly mortgaged the farm.
Philly mortgaged the farm and got exactly what they paid for, a Super Bowl. They don’t win the Super Bowl that year without the regular season that Wentz lead them through. Foles was in the right place at the right time, with the right opportunity and the right coaches around him. Good for him, he maximized the opportunity he was given, but would have never been in that position without Wentz.
So I’ll say again, Philly got exactly what they paid for.
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I count 15 top 5 picks since 2002 that Carson has had a better career than.