southpaw
-
Posts
3,620 -
Joined
-
Days Won
28
Posts posted by southpaw
-
-
9 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said:
Well said.
Like it or not, it's the direction we're headed in. And we're hardly unique. Most of Europe/Asia are being asked to do the same as we are and/or will be.
Deal with it, do the best you can, and give a helping hand to those in need.
Want to see where America will be in a week? Look at Europe today. People not packing into bars and restaurants, limiting number of people allowed on a store at a time, borders closing to everyone but commuters and freight, public transportation shutting down.
-
14 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
I see more sick people in a day than most of society sees in a month.
That's the point...
-
3
-
1
-
-
5 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
New flash......our demographics in this country are not identical to either of those countries. Or Germany.
That's unfortunately very true.
Germany, Italy and South Korea all have a higher life expectancy, lower child mortality, lower maternal mortality, lower burden of disease, and significantly lower healthcare expenditures vs GDP.
-
2
-
-
1 hour ago, yzerman19 said:
Key point: government
I, for one, have never thought of the government as a protector. It cannot fail me on this, because I put no faith in it to begin with. It is not some omnipotent protector of people.
What's the major difference between the death toll in Italy vs South Korea? The policies put in place by the governments of those countires.
SK had 10x the cases in mid-February when they shut the country down. Italy, chose to be lax about it, and now they're number two in deaths with nearly double the number of cases per million as South Korea.
Nobody is expecting the government to save you from viruses. But maybe having testing kits available would be helpful. The CDC chose to create their own (defective) tests instead of using the proven WHO ones. South Korea is testing 10,000 people a day. As of yesterday, the U.S. has tested fewer than 16,000.
44 minutes ago, yzerman19 said:and for everyone who complains about health insurance premiums, margins (which are very thin most years), and importantly reserves- this is why they have them. Reserves are part of a calculation known as risk based capital. Claims will be paid, many elements of patient Financial responsibility will be waived. Same goes for delivery system cash on hand. The system is financed (when managed adequately) to weather this.
Right now, in the U.S. if you're incredibly sick and have flu-like symptoms you need to go to the hospital. At that point, you're almost hoping you have coronavirus because if it comes back as the flu then you're getting stuck with a massive bill.
Here in Germany, if I have similar symptoms as above and go to the hospital, I pay nothing for my visit regardless if its the flu, coronavirus or cancer. And I pay about $85 a month for my private health insurance on top of the government option.
That's great claims for Covid 19 will be paid out (who knows how quickly) but as usual, you're screwed if you don't have good insurance and you get anything else.
-
3 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:
Define "government" for within this comment.
How about starting with those responsible for cutting the NSC Pandemic Response team in 2018. Even if they say they "I don't take responsibility at all," they are responsible for ensuring a quick and effective response.
After the first 15 cases were reported, the conversation needed to be about stopping its spread and not on Wall Street or how the cases will very shortly be zero.
-
2
-
-
1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:
So stay curled up in the fetal position in your basement if you need to...and our "medical" expertise on this issue compared to Dr. Carlson is that you beat your wife in a game of "Operation" last night?
Clarify...is that great medium article and its statistical hypotheticals "facts", "truths" or both?
Outliers statically are just that outliers. Doesn't mean it didn't happen but it's like Sesamee Street.......one of these things in not like the others.
As of yesterday 4 pm the CDC reported 41 deaths from the corona outbreak in this country with a first reported case almost 8 weeks ago. An average seasonal flu season is 13-15 weeks.
I have no medical expertise but I defer to experts who look at all data instead of discarding unpleasant data. Excuse me if I don't have a lot of faith in governmental research in the US right now.
If you're going to call Italy an outlier, then so is South Korea, just on the opposite end of the spectrum.
The second death in the US was on March 1st. There have been 40 more in the last 13 days. Definitely not scary numbers right now.
But considering the average death comes 17 days after symptoms, and the spread is uncontained in the US right now and the numbers will undoubtedly rise.
Not to mention keeping someone in the hospital for 17 days til they die is going to shut down our hospital system. You're going to see more and more deaths because people can't get the care they need, whether from Covid 19 or something else.
Even the number of deaths from the regular flu is going to spike this year due to lack of facilities.
-
5 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:
Dr. Carlson is a Sanford and NDSU infectious disease doctor.
The last sentence is interesting considering this virus was labeled one of "rapid spread" and "highly contagious".
The 1-2% transmission rate for non-household cases is telling too. Means it's quite safe to leave your basement.
Amazing that if you remove one of the countries with the worst transmission rate, the average goes down.
Italy? We can't base it off them! Let's just pick China and South Korea, two countries that have had a significantly harsher and quicker response to the outbreak than America.
The medium article posted before does a great job of showing the transmission rates throughout the world. Guess whose rate America matches the most? Italy.
-
2
-
-
4 minutes ago, ChrisUND1 said:
Without green glasses, what would you say the odds were that UND would have won it this year? These one and done tourneys are so unpredictable as we all know.
I say they had a 50-50 shot of winning it all. Other teams I think had a great shot this year: UMD, Mankato, BC
I would think they would have had at least a 1 in 16 chance.
-
1 minute ago, SiouxSherm94 said:
source please. this is huge.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1238509859856924672?s=20
-
NCAA has granted all spring sport athletes an additional year. Currently discussing winter sports.
-
NCAA has granted all spring sport athletes an additional year.
They're currently discussing winter sports as well. How about another year for Marlon?
-
2
-
1
-
-
6 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
Bison fan?
MIBT = Manure Includes Bison Teammakers?
-
14 minutes ago, LH Golfer said:
He also said that "life and Death matter more than the stock market". The stock market will come back but once you're gone you're gone.
He also said after 15 cases that in a few days it would be down to zero.
Narrator: It's not down to zero.
-
I heard you can bet on virtual horse racing...
-
On 3/8/2020 at 1:59 AM, MafiaMan said:
Nice idea, but that eastern North Dakota border would never fly, nor should it. It wouldn’t take long for a blown out of bounds call to cause concern.
The home court advantage could be huge.
-
1 hour ago, Cratter said:
How long after the 2009 pandemic was introduced were tests widely and easily available?
QuoteWithin 2 weeks after the first recognition of a pandemic influenza virus, a new, FDA-authorized, accurate, sensitive, and virus-specific diagnostic test was manufactured and distributed to laboratories in the United States and abroad.
Source: https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/52/suppl_1/S36/499461
The main reason it was implemented so quickly was that the CDC was already working on diagnostic tests for detecting emerging influenza virus strains with pandemic potential.
-
33 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:
OK? He still called it a hoax, which was what I was responding too from yzerman.
Also, is that link supposed to instill confidence in how it's being handled?
Slightly more than two weeks ago, he said
Quotewithin a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.
Here's an extensive article highlighting the history of Coronavirus, the rate of growth throughout the world, and the difference between how countries have handled it. The only thing the U.S. is leading the way in is the fewest number of tests available per million people.
If you want a textbook example of how not to handle a pandemic, look at the U.S. since Coronavirus was first announced in China in December.
-
2
-
1
-
-
6 hours ago, yzerman19 said:
I don’t think anyone ever called it a “hoax” did they? I think the debate has always been the myth vs reality of its lethality and disruption....now the reality is we’ve shut down the world over something that has killed fewer people than dogs have this year...
Just the president...
-
1
-
1
-
-
- Popular Post
- Popular Post
I've seen a lot of posts on social media saying UND deserves the title. Imagine if this had happened last year and St. Cloud had declared themselves the national champs. We would have mocked them endlessly.
-
1
-
6
-
On 3/7/2020 at 3:06 AM, SiouxVolley said:
Williston is pushing for a multivenue ice complex.
Can a two-year college go NCAA D1? I'm sure that's right around the corner now that they have a venue.
-
1 hour ago, northernraider said:
Kinda of a weak tweet suggesting that UND should have kept him because "he went to the NCAA in 2014"
Where did you get that? Yeah, he says Wow but I feel like that's a normal reaction to UND buying out a coach.
The rest of his tweet was literally just facts that would be in any news report.
-
2
-
-
7 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:
As of noon today......647 total cases in the US.
Cancel Easter.
Six hours later, it's more than 1,000 positive tests. It's amazing what having access to tests actually does to the number of infected patients.
If we don't have tests, we can't have official cases.
-
I'm mostly concerned about whether this is a hoax by the left wing media, or a trial run by the government to see how much they can restrict our movement.
If all of the experts here can't even decide which conspiracy this is, how will we ever have a chance to survive it?
-
28 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
Look into the data. If you are under 60 and in moderately good health this is another flu strain.
Or, ask someone in the game for real like this fellow:
That guy is lucky to still be in the game. The ones who aren't can't write articles and aren't just 60+ year olds or those with immune issues.
It's not the flu.
-
1
-
2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)
in Community
Posted
Because you can't buy hand sanitizer here. It's just like it is in the US, the second it's on the shelves, it's sold out.
And hand sanitizer, mask and gloves aren't going to prevent you from getting coronavirus. It will help but if you're in a giant group of people, you have a higher chance of getting it.