[Sacramento State @ UND 11/25/23 Playoff]

44 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

I think on those third and longs we don't need to be blitzing 7-8 guys nearly every time. 

I agree with this.  We also don’t hide it well pre snap   

[Sacramento State @ UND 11/25/23 Playoff]

5 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

couldn't we look it at it as keep those hornets locked up in the lucky inn for a night game looking out the window at nothing for a few extra hours might f them up in head instead of just pulling the bandaid?

let's face it.....bubba is asleep by 8pm most nights...his call i guess

I guess you can look at it however you’d like but in my opinion an early kickoff benefits UND much more than Sac St.   Keeping a schedule when traveling west to east is a tough adjustment   

 

[Sacramento State @ UND 11/25/23 Playoff]

9 hours ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

Why did UND pick the game to start at noon?  Why not keep things as close to normal as possible? (And yes, UND licks the start time). 

For all the reasons mentioned above.  Solid choice by the admin on the early kickoff. 

[2023 Football Season]

10 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

Is winning winning

 Not unless its other teams wins.  

[2023 Football Season]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Buy two get ten free?
Seriously?
Ouch. 

The 10 were from a friend and the season tickets around them but no interest in going.  Had family coming to town Friday night with NDSU ties and just asked around. For him to act like people are lining up to get in the dome is funny at best.  
 

Their student section rivaled ours as far as attendance so it’s not just a UND problem.  

[2023 Football Season]

32 minutes ago, NDSU grad said:

I live in Minot so I don’t make many games. Really wasn’t much of a discount on the secondary market. But to your point, it should keep Matt Larsen up at night. 

I actually went to that game on Saturday.  Whoever bought yours for $55 certainly didn’t look very hard.   We bought 2 at the gate and were given 10 for no charge.  Apparently lots of people wearing blue and red if you think there is a demand for tickets.  

[UND @ Murray State]

18 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

pretty sure 1-4 in playoff games over the past 10 seasons is an objective measure. But sure, winning in the postseason is a response that is nonsensical and fails to recognize the undisputed superiority of Massey rankings (that aren’t even polls) … I mean why even have playoffs? For example, the old polls system in college football sans playoffs to determine the national champion was always superior ….

Wins vs non scholly and D2 and lower are much more meaningful by your standards.  

[UND @ Murray State]

17 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

You’re purposely not reading at this point. That’s on you. Read @108498’s post, which I responded to. Even if 8 wins is the bar, will UND get there this year? They haven’t hit 8 wins since 2016…

Decade by decade

I read it when you posted it.  His post was about not breaking 5 wins…..so your rebuttal is a year we beat a non scholly and 3 D2 teams or lower.  
 

You are the one not comprehending.  Yesterday you say this years team doesn’t have a quality win this year, now those 4 wins are your bar for a 8 win team and no progress has been made under this staff. 

[UND @ Murray State]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Ok dude. You do you. Not my bar and never said that. You’re off on a tangent now. I don’t care about Mussman football currently, those teams were awful and that’s well in the past.
 

UND football CURRENTLY with Schweigert is not good enough if you’d like to see UND football win a championship. Fargo, ND and Brookings, SD can do it, but how about Grand Forks?

You for some reason picked that season to prove 8 wins was attainable before Bubba got here.  It’s your bar.  

[2023 Non-UND FCS thread]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Majority of starters are still in place. Losing Ziebarth and McNaboe hurts, but other teams have injuries also. Doesn’t only affect UND. Need to coach up the younger guys and know how to overcome it. Having your starters on return teams a decision worth questioning? Can’t continually play the “poor me” game. 

No one is playing the poor man game but there are certainly guys injured that affect play calling.  I think it’s showing depth is an issue.  

[UND @ Murray State]

3 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

I’m not arguing that point. I was just responding to a different posters opinion/post, which I felt incorrectly portrayed the situation and tried to inappropriately deescalate the pressure on Bubba

My post:
“2011 Mussman team was still quite awful- definitely not my bar - but they did win more games than Bubba’s first two seasons. “

 

 

4 wins vs non scholly or D2 and lower.   Yet that’s your bar.   Nice

[UND @ Murray State]

7 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Simply responding to the previous post which erroneously stated UND couldn’t win anything prior to Bubba.

“The team finished 2013 with just 3 wins and couldn't break 5 wins for several years”

2011 Mussman team was still quite awful- definitely not my bar - but they did win more games than Bubba’s first two seasons. 

Look who they played.  If this years team and staff played that schedule with the exact same results you would be crapping all over them worse than you do now. 

[UND @ Murray State]

8 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

They hit a ceiling, years ago. Your comments make me think you’re either biased and/or misinformed, because your comments are generalized and almost non-factual.
 

It’s been 10 years. How far has the team truly come? Anyone actually watching this program has seen 5-7 in 2014 turn into perennial 7-4 and no playoff wins. They have not made substantial progress despite what some try to portray. 

“I understand the frustration that the team hasn't been past the 1st round of the playoffs much, but Bubba has taken the team there a few times. “

- they have only won one playoff game. EVER. During an asterisk season in spring 2021. Bubba has not been able to transform UND into a championship caliber program, period. They can’t win playoff games and routinely miss the playoffs. 

UND was winning more than 5 games prior to Bubba. Mussman got UND to 8 wins in 2011. It’s not some impossible task to get UND football to FCS championship level (see South Dakota State); but it requires a certain effort and talent to get them there. Bubba is at the end of his career, and the projection is well established at year 10; he’s not that guy. 

!@#$, 2011 is your bar now…..lol

[UND @ Murray State]

9 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Terrible in 2014, yes, but not significantly better in 2023. 1 playoff win in 10 seasons. The point of reflecting back to 2014 is brought up to actually prove a point/argument. You need to know where you’ve been to know where you’re going. Been 10 seasons with 1 playoff win and a couple extensions; I don’t know UND’s athletic department can be so fragile. Sure, tons of stability with it, but no willingness to take any risks is mind-boggling and a blatant mistake by Chaves/UND AD. 

There is no way to really know how a game between 2023 and 2014 would go but the product on the field is better.  If you are going to write off every win we have in 2023, certainly you are not going to lift every win in 2014.  
 

My opinion is the last few games the lack of depth/experience is starting to show.  That is going to be a challenging thing to build at the FCS level for any team but is a spot this staff needs to figure out.  I don’t have the answers but it is certainly a challenge. 

[2023 Non-UND FCS thread]

1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

We all feel this way because UND has regressed since beating NDSU instead of riding the momentum and taking the next step forward. That is pathetic and an embarrassment that falls squarely on the shoulders of the coaches.

Now, you could say UND is 2-1 since beating NDSU, but if you watch the games and have any idea how the game of football works, do you honestly think UND has improved the entire season or is capable of beating NDSU in Fargo? Of course not. New leadership / new head coach for UND football needed.

Are they as healthy as they were vs NDSU?  

[UND @ Murray State]

58 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

 

Not too challenging of a concept. 
-Bubba under contract until 2025

- UND is awful on the road and has one 1 playoff game win in the past 10 years of Bubba being head coach (I repeat, one win in the past 10 seasons!). 

-UND defense in 2023 is bad. 

-Danny Freund is associate head coach and OC. He is next in-line for HC job if Bubba were to leave before his contract expires (or even if contract expires) and ask that job go to current staff member. 
 

- ultimately, I agree an open competition (job opening) would be the best for UND football, but would that happen with Chaves given the above? Chaves extended Bubba Schweigert in 2021 despite going 5-6 and the team has not shown substantial improvement since. 1 playoff appearance since 2021 extension; only 1 playoff win for Bubba as HC in an asterisk season of 2020 (spring 2021 COVID season where several programs weren’t participating and several games were canceled). To be enamored with the current (and previous decade plus) leadership is impossible unless you’re significantly biased or misinformed. 
 

- UND football needs new leadership if you want to see UND be a true national championship contender. 

Meh, we were terrible when Bubba took over and that wasn’t changing over night.  I don’t disagree we need to be a lot better in the road but using the first years against him is digging to make your argument hold water. 

[Indiana State @ UND 10/28/2023]

21 minutes ago, AJS said:

How much of the offensive issues are solved if Danny gets out of his own way? That was a terribly called game. Defensively, the concern continues to be their inability to actually get to the QB when they bring pressure.

Phenomenal last drive / ot performance! Here’s to that being the spark and we see a rejuvenated team the rest of the year!

Offensively we seem to play better when we play with tempo vs huddling and substituting between every play.   Maybe something to consider.  I know it to shorten the game a bit but if we can’t score, we aren’t consistently good enough defensively to win a low scoring game.  
 

Defense created some turnovers yesterday but agreed, need to get home on pressure.  

[Indiana State @ UND 10/28/2023]

57 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

The double quote one. I’ve made one post about the game since it ended and it was talking about ISU going hurry up. I’ve also asked you about the criteria for being a real fan. Take your time with that response 

The second quote was my response.  Apparently quotes like that are your criteria for being a “true fan”.  Take your time to comprehend it

[Indiana State @ UND 10/28/2023]

3 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

28 point favorites at home and won by 3 in overtime 

All after getting embarrassed 27-0 on the road… if you think that is a good win then I really don’t know what to say. That is a new level of fantasy land.

I’ll take an ugly win over a pretty loss any day.  

[Indiana State @ UND 10/28/2023]

1 minute ago, GoodGood said:

Why am I quoted in this? 

Which one?  

[Indiana State @ UND 10/28/2023]

18 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

I'm not complaining about anything. I'm asking you about the guidelines of being a true fan. I just want to know that answer 

 

2 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

It’s an everything loss. If you were at that game and had to watch that pathetic game of “football” and still consider it a win then I’m not sure what to even say. You are truly delusional and need to take the Kelly green glasses off. 
 

It may show a W on the record, but all around that was a big fat L.

Apparently it needs to look something like this.   Anything else is unacceptable.  

[Indiana State @ UND 10/28/2023]

4 minutes ago, GoodGood said:

Good to see you’re back! Have you established those guidelines for being a true fan yet? 

Apparently all you have to do is complain about everything 

 

again….was he wrong in his post that they found a way to win

[Indiana State @ UND 10/28/2023]

1 minute ago, HoopsFan03 said:

I love how committed you are to your fantasy land mindset! It is truly commendable, pal! 

Is he wrong? 

[2023 Football Season]

1 minute ago, Sioux94 said:

7-4 our only good win is against NDSU in our SB at home. 

Your right…..probably wouldn’t look good to the committee cause it was our Super Bowl 

[Indiana State @ UND 10/28/2023]

“I want what’s best for the program”.  
 

“I not even sure I’ll watch the game this weekend”.