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Walsh Hall

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  1. Lee Goren, Jason Ulmer, Jay Panzer, Teeder Wynne, and Adam Calder.......five former Sioux players in the past 10 or so years, who would most likely qualify under your standards as part of a weak freshman class, yet were imperative in the winning of national titles (except for Wynne who was the team MVP his senior year). We can't have a Parise, Zajac, Bochenski, or Murray every single year. You've come to expect too much from 17 and 18 years old. Maturity is different in everyone and development into good college hockey players take time.

    Goren was coming off a bout with mono with left him weak and without stamina, and it showed. Ulmer and Calder were more 3rd line guys that where excellent at doing the job that needed to be done. Jay Panzer was a good, not great college player that needed a supporting cast and maturity to develop. Teeder, one of my favorite ex-sioux, apparently got chewed out pretty good by Deano which got his act in rear. I'm baffled at why it's so awful to say that maybe the freshman class is a little short on top end talent. There is alot of time left to step up, but to this point they haven't shown any particular knick for putting the puck in the net. I see a bunch of players that look like they could develop into the Calder-Henderson-Armbrust type players, just no Oshie, Blake, Parise - type players. We need some of both to win

  2. Man, nobody is saying that we should dismantle the program. I have to agree that I have not seen too many flashes to indicate that the freshman class will contain first and second team all WCHA calibur players. I hope for the best and will support the team as always, but I don't see the problem with questioning whether this class has the talent level recent classes had. Many may turn out to be solid 4 year players, but I haven't seen anyone that looks to be an elite player. Which Freshman do you see as being a top line guy? Forney would be my best hope and that's based solely on speculation, not on what I've seen. The other guys look to be solid 3-4 line guys. Genoway has impressed me the most but I'm not sure how to place him and how he will develop. It's early so it's not time to throw in the towel, but I am concerned with the squad for this year and next.

  3. the difference between UND and those other schools you listed is that the role players that UND brings in are much better than the role players lower wcha teams have. UND is slated to have a lot of blue chip recruits over the next two years. that means there will be constant turnover, which is where the role players who were brought in over the past two years will excel.

    I don't think they are "much better" if they are better at all. When I think of great role players I think of the Adam Calder type players that just got the job done while the top 2 lines provide the majority of the scoring punch. It kills me to be negative, but we are not getting enough production throughout the line-up, and unless the freshman next year are unbelievable the scoring top line scoring punch is going to be limited. Our top end talent at forward this year should be fine, but it's the second flight and role guys that aren't consistent and haven't given me any optimism that they will be in the near future. To say our role players are "much better" than most WCHA teams flies in the face of what I've seen on the ice. It's tough when you lose players and the second tier guys have to become top tier, but we just haven't done so to this point. I hope that I am underestimating the squad, but I don't see the necessary parts to make a post season push.

  4. I'm no scout, but I have never seen why Lee is so highly regarded. He does a good job on the PP, but even strength he doesn't generate much and his lack of physical play causes problems in his zone and with breakout passes.

    One of the goalies needs to step up and be a true number one guy. Too many soft goals and juicy rebounds. If the goalies switch nets last weekend the Sioux leave with 4 points.

    The only redeeming thing with year is watching Oshie and Toews. There are definitely worth the price of admission even if they aren't scoring. For the team to make any kind of a run those two have to starting putting the puck in the net and we need a couple 3rd and 4th liners to step up.

    My fear is losing Oshie and Toews for next year because none of the freshman have shown to me that they can fill the 1st line holes, and Duncan needs someone to get him the puck in a scoring position

  5. In short, you can't interfer with the goalie in the crease. I thought the same thing, I thought he kinda interfered with the goalie, but the goalie was so lost I don't think the slight contact mattered. I couple years back with the old in the crease rules that goal would have been disallowed.

  6. He grew into that. But there were many, many times Jordan was the object of scorn here, especially during his freshman and sophmore years. Heck, until the stretch runs in the last two seasons, people were on the ledge over the goalie "situation".

    I don't disagree that Parise was good, maybe great. All I'm saying is that this discussion is not new (only the names are changed from year to year).

    And many believed that JPar was not a credible D1 goalie much less a UND goalie when he came in.

  7. Goaltending seems to be by far the most speculative position for recruiting. It's hit or miss. I don't think we have recruited poorly, but some just don't pan out like we'd like. Look at the gophers, it has been argued that they haven't had an elite tender since Stauber despite their recruiting of "can't miss" netminders.

  8. Hak's message said x-mas tree, and under the tree (family tree, David younger than Jon?), and excited with first bike (jon) which could imply that this will be the second. I'm sure I'm reading to much into it, but I'm bored.

  9. The Toews goal should not have been allowed. Clearly a kick. Even if it deflects off the goalie it is still not a goal. Similar to a high stick or hand pass that deflects off a goalie or D-man and goes in. Also, I'm not agruing that penalty shot hould have been awarded, just that it was a crappy situation and probably the correct call was made.

    As to the Minnesota- UMD debacle, Adams should be immediately fired for his handling of the situation. I guess the coaches are now allowed to completely show up the ref and are actually encouraged to do so because apparently swearing at them can get them to change a call. What a joke. I couldn't tell what was the proper call, but Adams has to made a decision and stick to it.

  10. My problem with the Porter call was that it was clearly an intention penalty to prevent a legitimate scoring opportuniy. Apparently that is the smart play. With under 30 seconds left in overtime I'd be sure to tell the players to hack/slash/tackle, do whatever necessary if there is the potential for a scoring chance. If someone is coming down the ice one on one with 20 seconds left in OT the smart play would be to take no chances and take the guy down.

    That play probably wouldn't have been a PS in the first period, but it was absolutley an intentional tackle to preserve a point. In essence there was no penalty because of the time situation. Both alternatives, 2 minute minor or PS are not equitable for the situation, but if anyone should suffer a negative consequence it should be the team which committed the penalty. They were given a benefit for committing an intentional penalty. I guess that's just a crappy turn of events for the Sioux.

  11. I watch alot of NAHL hockey and there is no question that it is a step below USHL but much better than most high school hockey. (Especially ND HS hockey) Also, since the U17 team plays in the NAHL a large chunk of the college committs and future D-1/NHL players come from that team.

    I very much enjoy the play in the NAHL, the entertainment value is very good, but there is no question that as a whole the USHL is a superior league and will continue to be so for awhile.

  12. Why don't we go out in the parking lot and decide this matter...

    As an aside, in the playoffs, when the games are usually more physical and intense there are virtually no fights, and certainly none in critical and/or close games.

    Also funny that a huge majority of the crowd cheers when there is a scrum, and that Prpich's fight is frequently linked to.

    I have a couple boys that are in the early stages of hockey. I'm a bit torn over how to address fighting. What do coaches of high school and junior (USHL, NAHL...) teams teach/say about fighting?

  13. Are you like 12 or something, did you ever watch taffy play. Please explain to me why he got his ass kicked in the AHL, his season ended, and had to have his face put back together ? That stuff happens to most players who are of quality character now doesn't it.

    Hopefully that beatdown was a wakeup call and Taffe will get his crap together. I seem to remember an ex-sioux that had a similar incident and he seems to have gone on to have a productive career.

  14. In the college game it's hard to "back it up." One fight a year, maybe two. It gives players the opportunity to act tough without having to throw down.

    It Pprich played for a rival the Sioux faithful would have been appalled by his conduct. I wouldn't compare Pprich to Taffe, two completely different players. It was Pprich's role to be a pest, not so with Taffe. We loved Pprich, but don't kid yourself into thinking you'd respect him if he wore maroon and gold.

  15. How often did players try to go wide on Commie or Greene? After the first try it didn't happen again. Murphy played a very physical game despite his size, but forwards don't have second thoughts of going into the corners or going wide against guys that aren't bangers.

    There have been excellent d-men in college hockey that are big and small, but all things equal, in the defensive end the big guys win. Look a couple years back where the Sioux D-man punished the other teams. They may not have been as skilled on the other end of the ice, but in their own end it was lights out.

    Nobody was scared of Mike Crowley in his own zone, and although I love the way Bina plays the game, he is not in the same category as the other names mentioned. I'd say Murphy was best two-way short D-man I've seen at UND. He was well above average at both ends of the ice, and the hip-checks were legendary.

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