UNDlaw80
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16 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4f5gvx6oh9zskvf/2020-11-17 TRO Motion with Exhibits.PDF?dl=0
Check the exhibits on this report.
Let me take some time to read this over.
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5 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
The &^%$# was debunked. Steel Dossier is a Clinton creation. Get Real
A bi-partisan committee with all access to information concluded this. Nobody debunked this. It was the final report on the entire issue. It took the Steel dossier's fakeness into consideration.
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6 minutes ago, zonadub said:
I have always wondered why they Russians wanted Trump elected when the Clintons were already bought an paid for through Bill’s $500K speech and donations to the Clinton Foundation preceding and following Uranium One.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/429292-the-case-for-russia-collusion-against-the-democrats
Campbell also warned that a major in-kind donor to the Clinton Global Initiative was simultaneously working for Rosatom while the decision for U.S. approval was pending before Hillary Clinton’s department. Ultimately, her department and the Obama administration approved the transaction.
The evidence shows the Clintons financially benefited from Russia — personally and inside their charity — at the same time they were involved in U.S. government actions that rewarded Moscow and increased U.S. security risks.
The intersections between the Clintons, the Democrats and Russia carried into 2016, when a major political opposition research project designed to portray GOP rival Donald Trump as compromised by Moscow was launched by Clinton’s presidential campaign and brought to the FBI.
I suspect they knew he was gonna be a major divisive influence on the country, and that his campaign could be easily infiltrated considering it was made up of private businessman. I don't think it had to do with Trump's policies per se. Soviet Union/Russia's game plan has always been to divide us from within.
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10 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
More BS
Here's the exact report. Read it.
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6 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
BS and you know.
Like the Mueller report before it, the nearly 1,000-page Senate document does not explicitly accuse the Trump campaign of direct collusion with Russian intelligence. But the Senate report carries particular weight because it is the first major investigation of Russian interference in 2016 to be conducted by a Republican-controlled committee and endorsed by both Republicans and Democrats.
WAPO spreading manure.
I never said there was collusion. But that doesn't mean Team Trump wasn't up to their neck in Russian shady contacts and it posed a huge security risk. Again, Trump knew what Russia has doing. At least the Dems had a legitimate reason, based on facts, to question if collusion occurred. Not saying they didn't play politics with it though.
Again, read the report.
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5 minutes ago, 1972 said:
there seems to be evidence that is coming in, and all anybody wants to say is"move on". come on man, atleast have the balls to say"hey, this is very concerning, we should look in to it "
What evidence? All I see is propaganda so far.
Until Trump presents evidence in a court of law, I'm dismissing anything they throw out there. All court documents are online. Anybody with a brain is laughing at this stuff even before they argue it in court.
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9 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
Another Damn lie.
An exhaustive investigation led by members of President Trump’s own political party portrays his 2016 campaign as posing counterintelligence risks through its myriad contacts with Russia, eager to exploit assistance from the Kremlin and seemingly determined to conceal the full extent of its conduct from a multiyear Senate probe.
The long-awaited report from the Senate Intelligence Committee contains dozens of new findings that appear to show more direct links between Trump associates and Russian intelligence, and it pierces the president’s long-standing attempts to dismiss the Kremlin’s intervention on his behalf as a hoax.
Link to the report:
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5 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:
Your party views AOC, Omar, and Bernie as “moderate” Democrats while vilifying Joe Manchin and anyone to the right of him!
Of course they do. And that's a problem.
As I said, both parties have gone full crazy.
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13 minutes ago, TheFlop said:
Interference? Yes. Many countries interfere. However that's a far cry from the collusion accusation that existed for the majority of his presidency.
13 minutes ago, 1972 said:may have been true, but was proven that Trump didnt collude with them....the same level of scrutinity should be applied in this case as well, and as history shows, we should assume that Biden had his hands all over it(i personally dont believe that biden had anything to do with it, but the DNC may have)
Of course the Dems claimed 'collusion', which wasn't true. But at least this accusation was predicated on verifiable evidence that at least pointed in that direction. People in his campaign where up to their necks with Russian connections. As it turns out, although he didn't 'collude' Trump was fully aware of what Russia was doing but did nothing about it. This is what the Senate Intelligence Committee validated.
Trump claiming the election was stolen from him without presenting a shred of evidence is a completely different ballgame.
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4 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:
So the party that told us for four years that the 2016 election was rigged by Russia in favor of Trump now want to tell us that questioning the legitimacy of this one is unpatriotic?
Rhetoric is rhetoric. Both sides pull the same ****. Surely you can see beyond that.
The difference is Russian interference was 100% true. Thoroughly validated by Rep-led Senate intelligence committee. Trump has yet to provide any evidence, anywhere, the election was stolen from him. Trump is getting thoroughly laughed out of court.
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10 minutes ago, homer said:
Calls for unity.......amazed no one answers.
Nobody answers because both parties are unwilling to call out and criticize their own radical nutjobs. Sanity has left the building in this country.
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46 minutes ago, homer said:
It’s very funny to read the bolded part coming from a dem. Replace Fox News with any other news outlet and it’s the playbook from the last 4 years of the democrats but now...... How many unnamed sources were quoted for “news” the last 4 years?
Do I think any of this changes anything no? Is it odd the republicans really controlled the election yet lost he top ticket? Yep. Do I think Trump knows he needs to keep a base energized for Georgia elections and keep all eyes on how the votes are counted. Absolutely.
There's nothing odd about it. This discrepancy obviously comes from the independent vote and perfectly illustrates the divide in our country where independents weren't given a choice of moderation. Rep policy and Dem President were chosen this cycle. More than ever independents didn't vote down party lines.
And yea Trump needs to keep his base energized, hence his rhetoric and conspiracy theories. It's unfortunate the Trump Trash actually believe it and are too stupid to see the big picture. That said, the equivalent nutcases on the Left aren't any better.
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42 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
Let's see what the Supremes say.
Well yea. That was part of Trump’s plan all along. Kick everything he possibly can up to the SCOTUS and hope his lackeys rule in his favor. None of which will overturn the election though.
Yea it’s legal, but it shows how much respect he has for state independence. Illustrates the difference between Trumpism and conservatism. Absolute power vs political values.
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Meanwhile, in the real world of actual court, Trump continues to look like he's playing for the NY Jets. Yesterday Wayne County certified results. PA SC ruled that Rep poll watchers were given full access to voting activities in Philly.
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16 hours ago, Nodak78 said:
This is a very, very serious allegation to make, and no experienced lawyer would make it lightly. Sidney Powell has put her entire reputation on the line in this battle, and she has a history of taking on huge battles and winning. The following comes from John Nolte…
Sidney Powell is no joke. She served as a federal prosecutor for ten years and earned a national reputation as the attorney who swooped in, convinced Ret. Gen. Michael Flynn to withdraw his guilty pleas, and successfully pressured the Justice Department to drop its charges. She was a stalwart and regular presence in exposing the Russia Collusion Hoax, and by my count, everything she said was going to happen did happen.
But of course this is the biggest battle that Powell has ever faced by far.
Either she will win and become a legend, or she will lose and her reputation will be completely and utterly destroyed.
The stakes could not be much higher for her personally, but she seems quite confident of victory.
In fact, here are 12 quotes from Powell that show why she is so convinced that Trump will end up in the White House for a second term…
#1 Powell: “There has been a massive and coordinated effort to steal this election from we the people of the United States of America, to delegitimize and destroy votes for Donald Trump, to manufacture votes for Joe Biden.”
#2 Powell: “First of all, I never say anything I can’t prove… and President Trump won by not just hundreds of thousands of votes, but by millions of votes that were shifted by this software that was designed expressly for that purpose. We have sworn witness testimony of why the software was designed. It was designed to rig elections.”
#3 Powell: “They also used an algorithm to calculate the votes they would need to flip, and they used computers to flip those votes from…Trump to Biden.”
#4 Powell: “They had the algorithms. They had the paper ballots waiting to be inserted if and when needed. And notably, President Trump’s vote in the blue states went up enormously. That’s when they had to stop the vote count. They had to go in and replace votes for Biden and take away Trump votes.”
#5 Powell: “They can watch the voting real time. They can run a computer algorithm on it as needed to either flip votes, take votes out or alter the votes to make a candidate win… It’s massive criminal voter fraud, writ large across at least 29 states… It’s obvious the algorithm and the statistics that our experts are tracking out are batches of votes and when the votes changed. It’s going to blow the mind of everyone in this country when we can get it all together and can explain it with the affidavits and the experts that have come forward.”
#6 Powell: “Even their own manual explains how votes can be wiped away. They can put — it’s like drag-and-drop — Trump votes to a separate folder and then delete that folder.”
#7 Powell: “In fact, we have got math in Michigan and Pennsylvania, I think it is, that, all of a sudden, hundreds of thousands of votes at a 67 percent ratio for Biden, 23 percent for Trump were uploaded multiple times into the system.”
#8 Powell: “They did this on purpose, it was calculated, they’ve done it before. We have evidence from 2016 in California, we have so much evidence I feel like it’s coming in through a firehose.”
#9 Powell: “It’s absolutely brazen how people bought the system, and why they bought the system.”
#10 Powell: “In fact, every state that bought Dominion, for sure, should have a criminal investigation or at least a serious investigation of the federal — of the officers in the states who bought the software. We have even got evidence of some kickbacks, essentially.”
#11 Powell: “…aware of substantial sums of money being given to family members of state officials who bought this software.”
#12 Powell: “We’re getting ready to overturn election results in multiple states.”
16 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:sidney > deep state
16 hours ago, 1972 said:That's a hell of alot to digest. If even half of what she claims is true, both sides of the aisle better be madder than hell! This goes against the very foundation this nation was built on
Right, but what makes these new allegations different from the rest? It's not like Trump hasn't had some seriously respectable and influential firms representing him in these election cases.
What I'm noticing is these new allegations follow the pattern of all the others. Here we are again with unverified info leaking via fringe news outlets while Trump’s people scream “Biggest scandal ever!” and “We have information that’s coming!” on Fox News. Sure the Trumpsters go crazy with excitement, but it’s like the Boy Who Cried Wolf to the rest of America. I want to see movement in court with verifiable evidence to back up such astonishing claims, not repeated frivolous accusations that get withdrawn when push comes to shove. The burden of proof for this will be insane.
Yes, Powell is a solid attorney, but she’s also waist deep in the political machinery. She is well aware that Trump’s PR battle is now more important than the innate legal battle that he’s getting wrecked in. His continued fight is essential in keeping influence over the GOP, keeping his base riled up, and keeping the money flowing.
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6 minutes ago, 1972 said:
and yet he has brokered a ton of deals that are extremely good for the country...funny.
Not according to our citizenry. We voted his ass out, by a significant margin.
People were sick and tired of the Trump division and chaos.
Democracy wins in the end.
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1 hour ago, 1972 said:
what is the "stategy of division"? because he didnt want the crazies tearing up cities? this division you speak of started long before trump even decided to run for president. it is a very weak argument that has little to no proof
Right, but Trump preys on our existing divisions like no President before him. His entire shtick is predicated on a "us vs them/good vs bad" mentality, complete with juvenile name calling. Sure others have said **** from time to time, but it's 24/7 with Trump. He purposely makes himself the center of attention. There's no middle ground with him. Very little compromise. He'll even thoroughly demonize his own party members who disagree with him.
I suspect that's what makes him attractive to some people. In their mind he 'tells it like it is'. But it's not good for national unity.
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46 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
So if you are acknowledging that independent voters leaned toward conservative policy, why have continued to bang the drum that the GOP has to change? Seems to me they are positioned very well for the 2022 and 24 election cycles, and it’s the democrats who have an identity crisis. Letting the squad have any voice nationally was a huge blunder. If I was a democrat I would be spending money in AOCs district to get her voted out.
Independents voted for conservative policy this election cycle, yet the opposite occurred 2 years ago when voters favored the Dems (with ‘the squad’). Independents waffle back and forth. There’s little evidence to indicate the US, as a whole, is more drawn to conservatism. What IS evident is polarization has reached an all-time high and independents are caught in the middle.
If the GOP truly wants to make inroads with independents, it will need to get rid of its radical wing (Trumpism). The same scenario holds true for the Dems.I'm not of the belief that our country can survive if both parties stay their current course. Sane individuals will be forced to seek an alternate third party. Although it may take some time, I do envision both parties ditching their radical elements whereby we return to some element of normalcy.
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16 hours ago, Sodbuster said:
So, have the times for the games in the pod been finalized and I missed it?
Nothing yet.
Despite the Covid craziness, I am excited they're playing every other day. That's like a month of nothing but Sioux hockey.
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20 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
Would those folks:
- vote for Biden
- leave 'President' blank.I don't believe someone voting a straight R ticket would vote for a D at the top; they'd leave it blank.
Yet, Trump got more votes this time around, and Biden got more votes than Obama ever did!Yes. This discrepancy was due to the independent vote.
Preference for conservative policy, but a rejection of Trump.
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15 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:
Any comment on the Democratic Party in GA spending MILLIONS on ads pleading for Republicans to vote for a Libertarian candidate who had dropped out of the race?
Interesting. Would you have link to this? I can't find anything about it online.
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1 hour ago, Nodak78 said:
Nevada smelling very fishy. Its not over until the fat lady sings.
Apart from Team Trump's PR attack, there's really nothing fishy happening on the ground in Nevada. Cmon, you're not stupid.
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14 minutes ago, Ranger said:
Maybe the MyPillow dude can step in and fix this sloppy mess... or at least provide the party snacks.
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Hahaha!!!
Three of the four lawyers representing Trump in PA just quit. Like an hour ago. Tomorrow is the hearing. The remaining attorney specializes in business law and is a right wing radio host.
Sweet Jesus you couldn't write better comedy than this.
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2020 Dumpster Fire (Enter at your own risk)
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I, nor does the report, claim collusion occurred. You people's strawmen arguments are pathetic.
The final government report concluded that Russia interfered in our election, the Trump campaign was up to its neck in shady Russian connections, was prone to infiltration, and Trump was well aware of what Russia was doing. That said, no direct collusion occurred.
Back to the original point. That scenario is a world away from Trump's accusation, without evidence, that the election was stolen from him. He will need to provide a mountain of evidence to verify it. He hasn't thus far.