UNDlaw80
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1 hour ago, Bison06 said:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rudy-giuliani-sidney-powell-not-part-of-trumps-legal-team
Fourth paragraph down. I should clarify my statement that it’s a non story. I believe it to be a non story in reference to people seeing this as further proof that it’s all unraveling. This was strategic. What for? I have no clue, but they clearly planned this together for some reason. I don’t have a Wall Street journal membership, so the best I can get is a reference to the Wall Street journal statement.
Her entire statement:
“I agree with the statement today. I will represent /#WeThePeople and seek the Truth. I intend to expose all the fraud and let the chips fall where they may. We will not allow the foundations of this great Republic to be destroyed by abject fraud."
There's no evidence this was planned together. If it was, anyone with a functioning brain would've let her put out the first statement. She was forced to play catch-up with her statement. And her tone is oddly different. Let the cards fall where they may? Really?
But whatever, if she had undeniable proof, she'd be gathering a team of the country's finest lawyers. In every capacity. That's like the 1st thing any rational person would do to destroy Biden and turn the world upside down. Instead we've been treated to ****show press conferences with her tweeting ‘Release the Kraken,’. So juvenile, incompetent and stupid. It blows my mind that people take this stuff seriously.
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8 minutes ago, Bison06 said:
And the fact that Sidney Powell issued a statement that she agrees with Guiliani? They planned this together.
Do you have a link to it?
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1 hour ago, Bison06 said:
This seems like a non story. Read the statement.
This isn't a non story. Team Trump is purposely making it a story by going public. There's no legal requirement to announce this, nor have they for any other non-team attorney. There's a reason they did this.
The most logical explanation is they know what she's bringing, and they want to publicly distance themselves from her.
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She was part of the team. At the recent press conference she spoke at, Rudy publicly stated all the lawyers were representing Trump and the Trump campaign. Trump also tweeted about her being a part of his legal team last week.
Today's occurrence probably happened for one of 2 reasons:
1) Powell’s accusations will cost Trump’s legal team millions in defamation suits. They still might plan on keeping her on his side, but they're publicly distancing themselves from her. It gives them plausible deniability for anything outrageous she says.
2) Powell’s conspiracy theories went too far for even Trump. Take note she was targeting his staunch allies and even his own DOJ.
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Evidence aside, one thing really sticks out to me. Why is she starting in GA and making a big press announcement about it?
If her claims are as solid as she says, she’d be mainlining a suit in PA. That’s the big one. Or, at the very least, filing multiple suits at once. Any legal team worth their salt would do that.What’s unique about GA? Surely it doesn't have to do with two upcoming elections which will decide who controls the Senate.
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7 hours ago, Goon said:
This is something that broke tonight. Like @SiouxFan100said it’s time to put up or shut up. I agree with him.
Just listened to the interview in its entirety. She’s claiming the Governor of GA, a longtime ally of Trump, took bribes to swindle the election for Biden; Trump’s own DOJ is in on the scam; and it took thousands of people to pull it off.
But, meanwhile, back in the real world, the US army just confirmed to AP News that the allegations it engaged in an operation to recover servers in Germany is false. Also Scytl confirmed it doesn't even have servers in Germany.
Looks like Brian Kemp, Bill Barr and our military are all now part of the ‘deep state’.
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1 hour ago, Nodak78 said:
I'm sorry you are being disingenuous. All the cases you have said were dismissed were not brought by Rudy and the rest. But individuals. The real stuff starts next week.
Very good, lawyers represent clients. The same will occur next week when/if Trump’s team bring new 'evidence' to court for the 4,564th time. They will be representing either the President or individuals.Does not Trump and his team using every avenue of the law to overturn results set alarm bells off? Especially when they're taking cases so frivolous they're getting repeatedly laughed out of court? This is like nothing we've seen in modern history. Why is 'FRAUD' always around the corner despite repeatedly getting smacked down over it? "But, but, but, the next one will be the BIG one!!"
Meanwhile yesterday Lin Wood had his butt handed to him on a silver platter in GA. He's like the only semi-respectable lawyer that hasn't already abandoned President McDonalds Trump.
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29 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:
pre trail always a diversion. Keeps the defense off guard. If you were playing poker and you placed a big bet and a bystander says I don't believe show me your cards. would you?
Keeps the defense off guard? That's not how it works in law. The defense has access to everything Rudy brings into court. Everybody sees the same cards. He's not throwing anybody off.
Rudy's main objective is to sway public opinion. Unfortunately you people are too stupid to realize this.
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1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:
Nevada could be refuted. Great. Truth.
Now do Pennsylvania. The hour-over-hour numbers reported holding a consistent whole number ratio of Biden-to-Trump votes is most curious.
Funny you posted this now.
Trump's giant lawsuit in PA was just thrown out.
Nice timing.
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16 minutes ago, Kermit's Luck said:Well done. Expect silence and another link to right wing garbage in a couple hours. Driving up traffic to fringe websites willing to lie to increase division...which will drive up traffic to their fringe websites.
If you look even closer into it.....
That news outlet was is presenting 2 points of evidence. The first is a screen shot from the 10th when counting was still happening. They're then directly and intentionally comparing it to recent updated results (2nd screen shot and link).
Dishonest propaganda trickery.
This is EXACTLY WHY these media outlets need to be questioned.
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39 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
And I’m saying look at the message, not the messenger.
I would surely hope SecState of NV or PA would have accurate data on their websites for review. That’s how the public can be confident and sure. If the data is not overtly clear and accurate it’s on them to provide the explanation in the sake ensuring the public trust.
I am looking at their message. Their saying fraud occurred. Perhaps Instead of promoting a sleazy agenda with outrageous allegations they'd be better suited looking into the situation first. No? It took me like 4 seconds to do this.
The Sos website is not updated. Their numbers were from when counting was still occurring. But the SoS has an official election website. It shows all up-dated totals.
https://silverstateelection.nv.gov/
But whatever. OMG FRAUD!!!!
You people are nuts.
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45 minutes ago, Goon said:
That's fine, but you're not the arbiter of what is considered news or not. You're one person. You're lecturing us on what is legit or not. You read what you want, and post, and we'll post what we want. I read enough news stories to know what's real or not. You're defiling Breitbart and their one of the best news sites for border issues. One of their writers is actually interviews people on that are on the border. Andrew Breitbart was a legitimate news person who unexpectedly passed away at a relatively young age.
I'm arguing for verifiable evidence. You posted a Breitbart link that provided half the facts. I showed you where. You gave no response.
If you're interested in an actual discussion or meeting of minds, I recommend immersing yourself in things beyond far right-wing media. The exact same hold true for the far-Left. Problem today is that there's no middle ground as a starting point for discussion. But hey, post what you want.....I heard the aliens are landing in Walla Walla WA on Monday.
But who am I kidding. This is the Dumspter Fire. I must have forgotten to enter at my own risk today.
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21 minutes ago, Goon said:
You called out no one. You're not going to tell us what we can read or not read. The MSM got the whole SpyGate Scandal completely wrong and then when it was proven wrong, by actual evidence, they just moved on. Didn't issue a correction, just moved on. You do you and we'll do what we want to do.
Nobody's telling you what you can and can't post. Hell, post pictures of Biden in a secret meeting with Lee Harvey Oswald and the aliens from Mars if you want. Go nuts.
I called you out of the validity of the particular link you provided; which was thorough BS for anyone who bothered to do a little research into the matter.
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52 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
The message. Not the messenger.
The data from the Nevada SecState website is the story, not who is reporting it.
It's a legitimate story if all relevant data is reported, the whole story. I called Goon out the other day for posting something from Breitbart that only reported half the issue. I don't think that story is even a thing anymore. The far-right is on to the next conspiracy.
The link you posted is 1 sentence with a screen shot. Did they put it in context? No. Did they contact Nevada Sec of state for an explanation? No. It's not even a story for heaven's sake.
C'mon, you're smarter than this.
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23 minutes ago, 1972 said:
Let's say your right....just how much voter fraud is ok with you? Any should be covered by every media outlet, and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Voter fraud occurs every election. But almost all of it is single individuals. All fraud is prosecuted. What raises big flags are coordinated efforts to change large amounts of votes. That's exceedingly rare though, at least nowadays.
Database of proven fraud:
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
Voter fraud used to be rampant. Now it’s an anomaly.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2020/11/voter-fraud-used-to-be-rampant-now-an-anomaly/
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30 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:
Classy.
Ooops. My apologies. I keep forgetting SS is serious business.
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5 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:
Happy for you.
Not really. I'm a little concerned. Sniffing paint isn't advisable for those with the 'Rona.
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Trump Jr. with the Covid now.
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The sooner this is done the better. For our citizenry and democracy.
Meanwhile Georgia was just certified. All ballots verified by hand. Biden has officially won Georgia
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59 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:
Joe Biden is said to be approaching 80 million popular votes.
Mister Obama got 65,915,795 in 2012 and 69,498,516 in 2008.
So, ... Mister Biden is 10 million votes more popular than Mister Obama. (Look yourself in the mirror and say that.)
Trump just received 4 million more votes than the previous highest of all time. Nearly 11 million more he did 4 years ago. (Look yourself in the mirror and say that.)
Fraud!!!! OMG!!
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Yea, influencing and changing electoral votes, especially en masse just isn't possible in real life.
But what if Trump magically is able to do this? That pretty much ensures that Democracy as we know it is finished. This country is done.
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9 minutes ago, Kermit's Luck said:
Right. And what's the point of orchestrating the biggest election fraud in history and not get a Senate majority? Why risk getting caught in the biggest scandal in American history to still have gridlock? If they had magic software or a mail-in ballot print shop, why stop at the President?
Without actual evidence, there's still hope that the grownups in the GOP can end this.
That's another huge point that doesn't pass the smell test in the slightest.
All these nutcases are complaining about Dominion, scams, Soros, Chavez, yet the hugely successful GOP congressional race followed the same voting mechanisms.
If shenanigans existed with the Dems, they would've easily flipped congress. Having control of both houses is just as important as the Pres. Maybe even moreso.
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19 minutes ago, 1972 said:
so, what if, hypothecly, the dominion voting turns out to be actually changing votes in multiple states, and they can prove it....then is it too much to overturn, or what do you think may happen in that instance?(serious question)
In this hypothetical scenario, even if they prove undeniable fraud in PA and GA, Biden still wins. He'll still have 270.
If other states have fraud, this will have to be the biggest coordinated scam of all time. Which begs the question, if corrupters had this magical ability to steal votes across the board, why not steal Florida, or Texas, or Ohio, or whoever. These were gigantic battleground states too. I mean why even put the effort into stealing GA?
This is just made up stuff that doesn't pass the common sense test in the slightest. .
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14 minutes ago, Kermit's Luck said:
But they're not following the process. Wayne County (MI) previously certified election results with the same amount of "imbalances" as the 2020 election. Why not now? Anything to do with Trump trying to politicize a normally non-political process? Trump knows he's not going to get three states to capitulate to his attempted coup. He just wants to sow dissent and magnify his brand prior to leaving office. Doesn't hurt that he's still squeezing donations out of people either.
Overturning the election is out of reach. Too many states he has to legally nullify. It isn't possible, in any capacity.
Trump is fishing for any type of fraud; even the smallest example whereby he and his minions can then point to it and say "See I told you the election was a scam!" And if he can't find it he'll attempt to manufacture it.
Claiming victory in defeat is Trump's hallmark calling card going back to the 80's. It's what he does. It's always served him well.
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Yea, it’s not even about press conferences per se. It’s about him shutting himself away from the public. This is thoroughly un-Trump like behavior. .
Trump thrives on attention. Hell, when he had Covid he felt the need to release videos and take a joy ride to wave at his supporters. I think he’s embarrassed of losing to Sleepy Joe and is having difficulty processing the situation.