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5 hours ago, SooToo said:
Come on. You're spoiling the narrative again.
When is the next signing day -- February? Kind of expected some kind of release this week on incoming mid-year portal transfers.
What narrative you speaking of ?
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The more I think about it the more frustrated I get. Bubba has concreted himself into a very selfish human being. He has to realize he has set this program back many many years. His right hand man that had nearly two decades in GF leaves for a lesser position. If he looked into the mirror and asked what his accomplishments have been in 10 years while being head coach at UND …what would the true response be?
“I’m just an above .500 coach
I havent won a single playoff game
I’m a defensive minded guy that has a horrible defense
90% of the my recruits only have D2 offers…which coincidentally works against most of the fcs (D2) not the top 10 tier
I refuse to adjust to in game situations
I can’t win on the road
I simply cannot exude confidence
I guess he can say he was better than mussman. Not a tough assignment. He hasn’t accomplished sh&t. He beat Ndsu this year then teared up??? Cmon man. It’s selfish for him to continue to collect a paycheck while this program sinks further.
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4 hours ago, jdub27 said:
Again with pretending anyone is content. Again, I ask you to show me that anyone has explicitly said "good enough".
No one is. The program needs to keep improving. But most of us just don't want to see it slide backwards for that to happen to prove some sort of point or be able to say we were "right" about something.
Pushing for things like improved facilities, player nutrition, coaches salaries, etc. are things that move the program forward. Not withholding funds and then complaining that things aren't improving. If anything, that seems asinine to me.
-Facilities are far from the problem. Und has excelled in that category compared to 3/4 of the fcs. Throw that out the window.
-coaching salaries. This is a must to hire a competent qualified coach and staff. Can UND ponie up ? Or can they and refuse to?
- player nutrition . With the transfer culture now …keeping above average talent will be nearly impossible. Money talks combined with transfer ease makes nutrition very difficult
Again …it’s been noted numerous times but extending Bubba after a s&@t season just shows the true colors for und athletics (minus hockey). Keep it simple ….keep the cheap guy. Complacency at its best. In their eyes mediocre is better than the worst. How about striving for the best ?
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35 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:
There are some on this forum that are very jealous of hockey. Hockey has facilities, funding, fans and success. These fans like to boast that if hockey wasn't a priority and the funding was diverted to football, we would magically be perennial national champs. Of course it isn't that simple and you don't tear down one successful program to try to build another. You try to build another successful program in addition to what you have.
Now I'm a big UND football fan too, and there is no doubt they could use some additional funding, probably mostly in the form of coaching salaries (and maybe some new white jerseys), but to blaming hockey is just the quick scapegoat. Any easy way of showing how jealous they are of the success they want for the sport they don't care about.
Had Ralph donated all that money towards a football stadium, you wouldn't hear a peep from this crowd, and how great would it be if we had someone willing to donate that for football as well. It would be incredible! But most schools don't get that for any sport let alone one. The REA has been fantastic for hockey and the community. The Alerus isn't a bad facility either. Its not my person favorite, but its not a bad place to watch a game.
Rather than placing blame on the alumni that did donate a ton to the University, I'd focus more on our AD who hands out unwarranted contract extensions and can't seem to find some more money in our alumni base. It doesn't even need to be a ton more, but they do need to increase the salaries to be competitive. Maybe that will be the focus now that Phase 2 is on its way. I'm not sure it is even that much more money that would need to be raise .... I have no idea, but something needs to be done. When Bubba is gone, it would be really nice to see UND make a splash in hiring (but I doubt it). Problems run deeper at UND that money. There is also just and administrative approach and routine that never seems to change.
Definitely don’t have to tear down one sport to be successful in another. SDSU “main” sport is basketball…women’s and men’s. They have done great at doing so. Football is second and has done great. UND throws everything nearly 100% at hockey.
All we hear when it comes to paying up for coaching in all other sports than hockey is …”UND doesn’t have the money”. That’s the frustrating part
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4 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:
More on this; I can’t fathom how one could be content just because this program is doing better than they were at their worst. 2012/2013 were awful seasons, bottom of the barrel, and now you think we’re all good because we’re a “hell of a lot better” than that? That is asinine thinking. This program is better but certainly not anywhere near the best, because in the FCS, that means top 5-10. It’s very top heavy. Bubba has essentially not won a playoff game in 10 years, including some abysmal seasons (3-8 in 2017 and 5-6 in 2021) thrown in there; this program is absolutely just mediocre. It’s all smoke and mirrors to project otherwise.
New leadership needed. Bubba has been inflated and overrated from the start, hence even the controversy regarding his hiring in 2013.
100%. For the people saying we are better than when Muss was running the show is laughable. How could it be worse !?! Mussman was a mess. Great recruiter but incredibly bad coach. Most anyone with 3rd grade level schooling could have done better.
Bubba brought some “new life” to the program initially but now we are back to Mussman days. It had been very evident early in bubbas time here he wasn’t head coach material. AD and UND had other ideas. Keep a guy that will stay here forever and don’t have to pay up for it. Easy call for them.
And here we sit. Guys that bleed Kelly green are walking to South Dakota to take a lesser job. Leaves his coordinator job to take a positional job. I can’t blame him tho. They know football and what it takes to get to the next level.
UND is surrounded by universities that know football. Montana st, Montana, sdsu Ndsu. The fcs kings are up in the north middle of the country. Und can get there too if competency was #1
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Great move for Danny. I was very neutral on Danny. Didn’t really care if he had stayed or left. He brought some good things early on followed with a bubba like last couple years. Definitely an upgrade from Rudy however. The great thing for Danny is now he will be surrounded by competent personal that give a damn about football and how to win. He has a passion for football and sdsu has a passion for football. Great combination.
I would have to think Danny’s thought was he’s “stuck” here. I am pretty sure he thinks the same as us naysayers see it. Blah, old school and frustrating. No way a guy leaves that has bled Kelly green for as long as he has to take a lesser job at the same level. Money is king for everyone buying pretty sure he was sick of bubba ball. I have been for 6 years. Bland and boring.
If Bubba truly loves this university and FB team as much as he claims to…he would have stepped aside last year and let Danny have his shot. Instead….UND is stuck with oh gosh oh golly blah master. Bubba has had this train on derail mode for half a decade. Bubba can’t coach! Period ! His record and stats cannot lie. He knows how to stop a veer offense. Whoopie. The FCS is a very weak league. Outside the top 10ish the rest are really D2 material.
With the ever changing college athletics bubba is a lost soul. UND needs a change immediately
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45 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:
Sounds good, gramps.
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1 hour ago, SiouxBoys said:
Rent free lol. Your lack of reading comprehension is insane.
Your lack of football knowledge is disturbing. You bring zero to this board. I’m sorry. You do bring something. You have the ability to be annoying! Keep up the good work lil bro !
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2 hours ago, Midwestern Hawk said:
I guess next season we get to find out who is a the larger problem on offense, Tommy or Danny. I used to be really down on Tommy, but as time wore on I think more of the offensive woes can be traced to Danny. Tommy was never going to be more than a game manager, but maybe that is the way Danny wants it. Again, time will tell.
IMO Tommy was very average. A good game manager yes. Tommy looked good against weak opponents. With that said ….the coaching staff stiffened up when competing against stiffer competition.
Danny's dismal play calling against sac st is proof for the coaching staff is way over their heads
Und…with the current players can compete. They destroyed Ndsu. Ndsu was never in it. Not even close. I think we all know that was influenced by others ….not this coaching staff.
Coaching is definitely the downfall of und football. So damn sickening to hear Ndsu football coverage around here. Why can’t und ever compete for a title???? Coaching!!!!! It is so damn frustrating to watch und fail year after year in this average league.
Will und be better without Tommy ? Feeney and kaminski have far more raw talent than Tommy but they will be held back by the ineptness of the coaching staff.
I see little change next year even with a more talented qb.
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The most frustrating thing with und being flatline average is the fcs is so flatline average. Most of the perennial competing teams have moved up. Und should be competing for top dog every year in the fcs. Not even close right now. There is only 3 contenders…sdsu Ndsu and Montana . I mentioned couple years ago that they should model their tourney to the fbs + 4. Take the top eight. Autos are a joke. For a team like drake to ever sniff the playoffs is enough evidence that not only is the fcs weak but what a waste of money for the university for travel. Most years …the fcs has 2-4 teams that can truly compete for a championship. The others are spending a lot of money for a participation ribbon. There is literally no way that sdsu, Ndsu or Montana doesn’t win the championship. That’s the 3 this year. No one else has a chance. Most likely those 3 will be the only ones next year as well. And the year after that and the year after that. Maybe add Montana st. Drake never stands a chance of winning it.
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58 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
We need to revamp our program from bottom up, all parts.
Hold on Mr pessimist. This statement sounds a bit negative. Siouxboys doesn’t appreciate any sort of discourse or negativity. Just happy things. Any negativity will not be tolerated. Just ask him. I sure he will comment soon enough tho.
* I do agree with your post
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4 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:
He’s never going to be able to give you anything. He provides absolutely nothing of substance on this forum. Don’t even give him your time.
Agreed
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1 minute ago, SiouxBoys said:
You still don't get it. I'm more than ready for Bubba to move on. I, and others, are saying the transfer portal is not a good excuse to move on from him because every coach in the country (including Saban) is dealing with it. I'm only telling you that you're missing the point. Maybe go back and read the entire conversation again.
Dude. You will never get it.
have to admit tho …”you’re a funny guy “.
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4 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:
He's being sarcastic. You have officially tripled down on missing the point.
Sarcasm. No sh&$ Sherlock. There is no way to spin his defending bubba. Players see it. Fans see it. You and a few others on here are blinded that we have a saban. ( sarcasm) Bubba is not head coach material. Bubba can’t be defended anymore . Yet you defend any and every opposition angle. Why defend average so hard ?? You are simply missing the point. Try and back up your big mouth with any kind of stat , fact or reason why he should continue to be head coach.. I and others have laid stats and reasons why he isn’t coach worthy on this site. You on the other hand are constantly telling people they are missing the point. Give me something to ponder.
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4 minutes ago, homer said:
What if he left because he’s better built to play DE in a 4-3?
What if he left cause of NIL?
it’s unfortunate UND is the only team to lose starting players to the transfer portal
You think und is the only team that loses players to transfers
Cmon man.
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16 minutes ago, cowboys5xsbs said:
Wait is this some kind of revisionist History? He absolutely lost his job to Tua Tagovailoa and only got it back after an injury.
Hurts was the starter 2016 and 2017. That’s not a backup.
As I stated ….he transferred because Tua was out performing him.
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13 minutes ago, cowboys5xsbs said:
I mean Hurts was a backup that lost his job
Hurts was no backup. Wow
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14 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said:
That's the point he's making.
His point is that bubba and saban are on equal ?
I said…IMO….players leave und because of coachingz. Bubba doesn’t better them on the field. Saban does.
Jalen hurts transferred because Tua was out performing him.
McNaboe transferring is not because someone is out performing him. He would have started next season.
Is that why you piped in? To say there is no difference between the two ?
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6 minutes ago, homer said:
Saban has never lost anyone in the transfer portal.
Jalen hurts
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3 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:
In short: Bubba is too old.
Need somebody half his age that the players actually want to listen to. A coach that can relate to players and know how to motivate them.
Not necessarily. Saban is 11 years older than bubba. Saban has “it”. He can motivate and demands excellence. Bubba doesn’t. He’s stale. He’s boring. Doesn’t exude any confidence. Players respond accordingly
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4 minutes ago, Longtime fan said:
If you just look at player development over their career this coaching staff has failed miserably. Quite a few underclassmen have looked great and by senior year they are just out there playing football for und. I see it two ways. Either they weren’t talented to begin with or they fell into bubbas complacency bubble. I say it’s bubbas bubble.
This years game against Ndsu is enough proof. They can play with anybody when influenced by outsiders. Players need that “speech”. I would assume bubbas speeches are very similar to his pre game, half time and post game interviews. Stale and boring. They need to feel the want to succeed. Bubba can’t “ignite”.
If I had to say in one word how to describe this coaching staff it’s STALE
Submitted to quick
Was going to end with ….the reason I believe most players transfer is the connection to the coach. Any sport any level any state. Transfers are happening everywhere and it’s sickening. At und …if I had to guess most feel bubba is a second dad. He is genuine and a great guy that will look out for them. You love guy but he just isn’t helping you succeed on the field. He doesn’t have ability to get the most out of his players. That would lead to some transferring IMO.
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If you just look at player development over their career this coaching staff has failed miserably. Quite a few underclassmen have looked great and by senior year they are just out there playing football for und. I see it two ways. Either they weren’t talented to begin with or they fell into bubbas complacency bubble. I say it’s bubbas bubble.
This years game against Ndsu is enough proof. They can play with anybody when influenced by outsiders. Players need that “speech”. I would assume bubbas speeches are very similar to his pre game, half time and post game interviews. Stale and boring. They need to feel the want to succeed. Bubba can’t “ignite”.
If I had to say in one word how to describe this coaching staff it’s STALE
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14 minutes ago, UND1983 said:
Wow great post man. Hopefully Chaves will know who is 100% for sure, no possible way of being worse, better than that when he hires them
Thanks man. You’ve always been the best.
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“Who would UND hire”?
I would like to see someone with the following criteria:
To have a better record than 61-50 in 10 years ( 6-5 /yr)
To have a better record than 9-23 vs playoff bound teams in regular season playTo have more than 5 playoff appearances and 1 playoff win in 10 years
To score more total points than the opponents- (under bubba -2859 to 2864 in 10 years )
To have more than 1 victory against a playoff bound opponent on the road
To have a better record than 19-38 on road games
To someone that can adjust in game
For someone that can motivate the players
For someone that doesn’t look like he wants to s$&! his bridges during the game (show confidence)
For someone that can recruit players that are needed for und to take the next step
That’s a good start I think
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2024 UND Football
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Iowa st 0-1
Montana 0-2
Idaho st. Toss up but at home 1-2
San Diego . 2-2
Murray st 3-2
Ndsu 3-3
N Iowa 3-4
Youngstown 3-5
Indiana st 3-6
SDSU 3-7
South Dakota hmm …toss up 3-8
illinois st 3-9
A lot depends on who’s coming back and transfers the teams will gain But as of right now with bubba at helm I see 3 to 4 win season