yzerman19 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Straight up 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15, 3 vs 14 etc: Miami #1 vs Air Force or Bemidji state #16 UND #8 vs Northeastern #9 Denver #2 vs Air Force or Bemidji State #15 New Hampshire #7 vs UMass #10 Michigan #3 vs Clarkson #14 Michigan State #6 vs BC # 11 Notre Dame #4 vs Lowell #13 CC #5 vs MN #12 Only 2 intraconference first round matchups and they are both 2 vs 3 seed matchups. Swap out MN for BC and then UMass for MN. This gives CC (the top 2 seed the second to lowest 3 seed as an opponent). Now we have: Northeast Regional Miami #1 vs Bemidji State #16 UND #8 vs Northeastern #9 Midwest Regional Denver #2 vs Air Force #15 (rivalry = potential upset = good for college hockey and attendance) New Hampshire #7 vs MN #12 East Regional Michigan #3 vs Clarkson #14 Michigan State #6 vs UMass #10 West Regional Notre Dame #4 vs Lowell #13 CC #5 vs BC #11 No intraconference first rounds, no one compalining too badly. Locations: CC will clearly play at home as the host school in the West Regional in Colorado Springs. Clarkson is the only ECAC representative, so they will be in the East Regional in Albany, NY as the host is ECAC hockey and RPI. Northeastern is from Boston, and they will buoy attendance in Worcester...so will adopted Gopher upset sister school-UND for host Holy Cross. That's the Northeast Regional. Gopher faithful will follow the rodents to Madtown for the midwest regional. Northeast Regional : 4 conferences represented East Regional: 3 conferences represented (2 CCHA teams) West Regional: 3 conferences represented (2 Hockey East teams) Midwest Regional: 3 conferences represented (2 WCHA teams) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 i will take a sioux, du/unh, cc and michigan frozen 4 then in denver we take out michigan again and cc beats du/unh (cant decide on that one) we beat cc in title game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Now we have: Northeast Regional Miami #1 vs Bemidji State #16 UND #8 vs Northeastern #9 Midwest Regional Denver #2 vs Air Force #15 (rivalry = potential upset = good for college hockey and attendance) New Hampshire #7 vs MN #12 East Regional Michigan #3 vs Clarkson #14 Michigan State #6 vs UMass #10 West Regional Notre Dame #4 vs Lowell #13 CC #5 vs BC #11 I like UND's bracket here. I think they can take Northeastern and Miami. Denver or UMN in the Midwest. Michigan in the East. CC in the West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 Interesting to note that of the 16 teams in the field, UND has 8 on the schedule. If you exclude ourselves that's 8 of 15. We have yet to play Bemidji State and New Hampshire, but we have a better than .500 record against the field. 1-1-0 vs Denver, 1-1-0 vs CC, 1-1-0 vs MN, 1-0-0 vs MSU, 0-0-1 vs BC, 1-0-0 vs Northeastern, 2 games vs NH, 2 games vs BSU. We aren't rolling over teams, but I think that some of the naysayers have lost some perspective. There is not a team that we can not beat in the one and done NCAA tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-per Villain Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Interesting to note that of the 16 teams in the field, UND has 8 on the schedule. If you exclude ourselves that's 8 of 15. We have yet to play Bemidji State and New Hampshire, but we have a better than .500 record against the field. 1-1-0 vs Denver, 1-1-0 vs CC, 1-1-0 vs MN, 1-0-0 vs MSU, 0-0-1 vs BC, 1-0-0 vs Northeastern, 2 games vs NH, 2 games vs BSU. We aren't rolling over teams, but I think that some of the naysayers have lost some perspective. There is not a team that we can not beat in the one and done NCAA tournament. On the flip side, I don't think there's a team in the current field that can't beat us either.....Let's hope we begin our turn-around on the 28th. We still have an outside shot at a #1 seed and it starts with a sweep of UNH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 In a one-and-done tournament, there isn't a single team that cannot be beaten, or cannot beat another team. See Holy Cross See Michigan in '97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 On the flip side, I don't think there's a team in the current field that can't beat us either.....Let's hope we begin our turn-around on the 28th. We still have an outside shot at a #1 seed and it starts with a sweep of UNH. Sweep UNH and we have a VERY good chance at a #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 A number one seed would be great for the last line change. I really just want to avoid another WCHA team in the Regional. I agree with the statement that any team can win in the one and done. Bounces, goalies standing on their heads...it can definitely lead to upsets ala Holy Cross. Think about the game winners in both the Final 5 and the Regional last year vs MN. Wheeler's goal...pure miracle; Porter's wraparound...save is made 99% of the time. One and done makes for anything can happen. We haven't had a lot of puck luck this year...hopefully Kermit is waiting for the NCAA run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Wisconsin Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I'm not really sure how the whole pairwise regional selection takes place. Is it possible for UND to play in Madison? Even if not, I'll have to get a UNH shirt if they end up playing the gophers there! Or would Holy Cross be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I'm not really sure how the whole pairwise regional selection takes place. Is it possible for UND to play in Madison? Even if not, I'll have to get a UNH shirt if they end up playing the gophers there! Or would Holy Cross be better? yes it is very possible, depends on seeding and if the badgers are in the tourney and where they are seeded in accordance with und. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I'm not really sure how the whole pairwise regional selection takes place. Is it possible for UND to play in Madison? Even if not, I'll have to get a UNH shirt if they end up playing the gophers there! Or would Holy Cross be better? they can end up anywhere really, just depends on many factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 The NCAA will set up the Regional locations by first using the brackets in their full integrity (only compromising to prevent an intraconference first round matchup) and seeing which brackets a host school falls into. In the current scenario only CC and the ECAC (Clarkson) are hosts. Holy Cross and Bucky don't make the cut on this early pass at bracketology. The other two brackets will then find their region based on #1 seed proximity and attendence concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 The NCAA will set up the Regional locations by first using the brackets in their full integrity (only compromising to prevent an intraconference first round matchup) and seeing which brackets a host school falls into. In the current scenario only CC and the ECAC (Clarkson) are hosts. Holy Cross and Bucky don't make the cut on this early pass at bracketology. The other two brackets will then find their region based on #1 seed proximity and attendence concerns. Never forget, this is the NCAA, so they can make any change they want to make more money. some times it helps you, some times it hurts, but with the NCAA, making more money will trump any bracket integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fargosioux Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Never forget, this is the NCAA, so they can make any change they want to make more money. some times it helps you, some times it hurts, but with the NCAA, making more money will trump any bracket integrity. it usually helps und, but it is always a factor. I would argue this point. UND got stuck in brackets with Michigan and Minnesota the past 2 years. Not exactly a cake walk to the Frozen Four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I would argue this point. UND got stuck in brackets with Michigan and Minnesota the past 2 years. Not exactly a cake walk to the Frozen Four. You beat my edit, I took it back, something stuck in my head from 10 years ago, but I can't prove it now, so forget it. but, if the ncaa could make a buck by screwing you guys over, they would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Wisconsin Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Thanks for the explanations. So, if UND and UNH swapped rankings, we would see UND-UM in Madison, according to these predicictions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 Thanks for the explanations. So, if UND and UNH swapped rankings, we would see UND-UM in Madison, according to these predicictions? no because the ncaa tries to avoid interconference matchups in the first round unless it is absolutely unavoidable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Wisconsin Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 no because the ncaa tries to avoid interconference matchups in the first round unless it is absolutely unavoidable. That's right, I read that, sorry. I guess they want to save the big match-ups for last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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