jimdahl Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Argh -- not only are the women upset, but the men miss out on a big upset opportunity. The men lost by one (78-79) on a 3-pointer at the buzzer by USD. You always hate to lose that way. Sounds like the women played a little more dominantly than USD, but had horrible shooting. Not a great way to begin the NCC season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBB Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Those games may not qulaify as upsets. Central Washington was considered an upset at one point as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted January 3, 2003 Author Share Posted January 3, 2003 Well, according to the Herald the final 3-point shot for the win was clearly taken from inside the 3-point line. Video replay apparently confirms. You really hate to lose that way. PS - I was using upset in the traditional meaning of a lower ranked team winning a contest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCM Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Well, according to the Herald the final 3-point shot for the win was clearly taken from inside the 3-point line. Video replay apparently confirms. You really hate to lose that way. Scott Swygman, who was broadcasting the game from USD, said on the radio this morning that the Coyotes only had .4 of a second left when they took the winning shot. When the USD player caught the inbounds pass, he had his back to the basket, which meant he had to catch the pass, turn and shoot. Scott also thought the Coyote player traveled in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgraham Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 Unfortunately basketball is the sport in which you are more likely to get homered by the officials than any other. The Sioux have to put the USD game behind them and get the split by beating UNO. Split on the road, sweep at home and they will be in title contention by years end. DG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 It sounds like the women really got screwed. Roebuck was furious with the officiating on the post game last night. Throughout the game Swygman also made references to the onesided officating. As far as the men's game goes, that was clearly a missed call on the last second three pointer. Not only did Mueller probably not get it off in time, replay shows he was CLEARLY a couple of feet inside the 3 pt arc! The refs ran off the court after the game without even a discussion. It is so fun to lose a game to the officials instead of the other team!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverman Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 [ QUOTE] Scott Swygman, who was broadcasting the game from USD, said on the radio this morning that the Coyotes only had .4 of a second left when they took the winning shot. I heard the NBA can't even do that w/ .5 ticks and a little college from SD can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 So lets see if I have this straight, the NCC looked at the tape and is able to confirm that the USD player traveled he did not get the ball off in time and both feet were inside the 3 point line but we are going to let the call stand unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuggnutt Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 Where did you find this info? I would be interested to view it. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD17 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I got my first look at the replay tonight. It is unbelievably bad. The USD player was at least 2 feet inside the 3 point line. Steve Hallstrom from WDAY in Fargo said they timed from the point the ball was touched until it was released: 0.8 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGreyAnt41 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I'm guessing the rules says that once a call is made it can't be reversed. Although this kind of call should be able to be reversed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBB Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 So what do you propose? Reverse the call and play an OT period sometime in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 If UND would have had a 20 point lead, or even just made two more free-throws, it would have been a non-issue. It's not the first bad call in history and won't be the last. Move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Yes, but was three bad calls at once, inexcusable! 1)obviously 3 feet inside 3 point arc 2)traveled 3) any MORON knows you can't shoot that shot in .4 seconds Thats why it is such an issue! How can three people miss three obvious calls all at once. UNBELIEVABLE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Even though it's early, what a difference that screw job at USD made in the regional rankings! 1. Nebraska-Kearney (10-0) 2. South Dakota State (11-1) 3. St. Cloud State (12-1) 4. South Dakota (12-1) 5. Colorado School of Mines (9-2) 6. Nebraska-Omaha (10-2) 7. North Dakota State (10-4) 8. Minnesota State-Moorhead (9-2) 9. Minnesota State-Mankato (10-3) 10. North Dakota (10-3) If the correct call was made UND would be about 5th or so and USD drops to about 8th. It is not too early to start jockeying for position in these rankungs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 So losing on the road at USD on a last second shot drops UND in the polls? Then you have UNO losing AT HOME on a last second shot to UND, and they don't drop? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsioux Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 I suppose it is because so many of those middle teams each lost a game this weekend. I also think UND's loss to that BB powerhouse UMC had not yet happened yet when the last poll came out before Christmas, so I am sure that really killed them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted January 9, 2003 Author Share Posted January 9, 2003 Not to try to prolong the dwelling on this, because as Sicatoka said, "it's over", but the NCC released its findings: http://www.northcentralconference.org/more.php?id=289 Essentially, they said the timing was inconclusive. Their rules dictate that it is not possible to score with 0.3s, but is with 0.4s. It appears that the shot was from inside the 3-pt line, but the line was obscured by spectators from the camera's angle. They reiterated that the NCC and NCAA do not allow changing the outcome of contests, the review is just to better educate officials and improve games in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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