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#101 User is offline   LB#11 

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 03:06 PM

kfah1, on Aug 26 2005, 03:16 PM, said:

PCM,

Many thanks for continuing to provide the links to these media articles!
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I agree, thank you very much PCM for keeping us updated on what's going on around the country...good stuff.
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#102 User is offline   PCM 

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 04:27 PM

You're welcome, kfah1 and LB#11. As long as I know people are reading the articles, I'll keep posting the links as I find them.

I understand that Time magazine has been in touch with UND about the NCAA controversy. It'll be interesting to see how that story that turns out.

In the meantime, here's yet another newspaper column hammering the NCAA for its hypocrisy.

From The (CHAMPAIGN-URBANA) News Gazette:
Chief items still available on NCAA site

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NCAA officials may find the Chief Illiniwek logo and the name "Fighting Illini" to be "hostile and abusive" to American Indians. But they will sell you merchandise featuring the logo and nickname at their online store at www.ncaasports.com/store.

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"It is ironic that the NCAA's merchandising Web site is an online market for traditions and imagery they condemned three weeks ago," said UI spokesman Tom Hardy. "Maybe those traditions aren't hostile and abusive after all.

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 04:36 PM

I, too, appreciate the links. It is very helpful in keeping up to date on various perspectives.
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#104 User is offline   PCM 

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 04:39 PM

From the Aug. 24 USA Today:
Excuses, inconsistencies mar NCAA mascot ruling

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That leads to the next question: How will the NCAA rule on the Central Michigan Chippewas or the Utah Utes, both of whom have support from the Chippewa and Ute tribes? The North Dakota Fighting Sioux are considering an appeal, too.

If the NCAA doesn't allow the use of those nicknames and mascots, a double standard will be obvious. Let big, powerful Florida State get its way but rule against the schools without a big-time football program. The NCAA will be further ridiculed for poor decisions if that happens.

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While some have turned this into a debate on political correctness, that's not the case. It should be a debate about common sense.

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Posted 26 August 2005 - 09:21 PM

PCM, on Aug 26 2005, 05:27 PM, said:

I understand that Time magazine has been in touch with UND about the NCAA controversy. It'll be interesting to see how that story that turns out.


I already know what that liberal rag will have to say.
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Posted 26 August 2005 - 10:15 PM

CoteauRinkRat, on Aug 26 2005, 09:21 PM, said:

I already know what that liberal rag will have to say.
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I'm fairly certain the article will be slanted to the left. However, I'm always interested in seeing just how the spin is applied. :D
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 07:58 AM

Aug. 27, 2005

From the Palm Beach Post:
A win for tribe and team

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It doesn't pay to get too upset over any decision the NCAA makes — just be patient, wait awhile, and it's sure to reverse itself.

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After further review, the NCAA said it considers FSU's relationship with the Seminoles to be "unique" — a description the school and the tribe both embrace. While the NCAA has a responsibility to promote sensitivity and prevent exploitation, it also has to listen to the people it's trying to protect. College athletics has enough problems without creating them for sanctimonious crusades.

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Post icon  Posted 27 August 2005 - 08:04 AM

In your face, NCAA!

This is Florida State's way of saying: We're not gonna take it!

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Added emotion. FSU president T.K. Wetherell, who had war paint attired on his cheeks, revealed Friday the pregame ritual featuring Chief Osceola, riding aboard Renegade with a flaming spear, will include a new twist for the nationally televised Sept. 5 opener against Miami.

This time, an actual member of the Seminole Tribe of Florida will be standing at midfield. Chief Osceola will hand the spear to the tribe member, who will then plant the weapon at midfield.

"If you're not ready to play then, boys, you might as well pack it up and go home," said Wetherell, addressing the football team seated at the luncheon.

It will be a not-too-subtle message after the recent controversy caused by the NCAA decision to target FSU as one of 18 schools with "hostile and abusive" Native American names.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 10:29 AM

Good job Bob Robb of Shakopee. From today's Star Trib:


Get the Facts on Fighting Sioux Logo

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In this day and age of liberals wanting political correctness, I can only imagine what Bennett Brien must think when Coleman refers to his artistic work as a "cartoon." Brien happens to be a Native American from the Turtle Mountain Reservation of Belcourt, N.D. He has a master's degree in fine arts from the University of North Dakota.

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I would like to add that in Grand Forks in October 2001, before the Hall of Fame hockey game and opening of the inaugural season at the new Ralph Engelstad Arena, a ceremony was held on the grounds at the arena entrance.

Attending that ceremony were members of the Sioux tribe who, in full Native American attire, celebrated the opening by performing dances and chants, blessing the new facility as well as the grounds where the structure exists.

Also in attendance was Eric Eno, a Native American who participated in the ceremony and with whom I spoke briefly following the event. He told me that he and his people wanted to thank Engelstad for his generous contribution to UND and for building such a fine facility. They were proud, he said, to have their names attached to such a fine facility

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 02:49 PM

USCHO has posted an update to my news story on UND's appeal. There's not a lot new to report, but that should change early next week.

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Early next week, the University of North Dakota plans to submit an appeal of the NCAA's policy restricting the use of Native American mascots, names and imagery.

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Phil Harmeson, senior associate to UND President Charles Kupchella, said the university will make an announcement "very early in the week" when it submits the appeal. He also said the content of the appeal will be made available to the public because the issue has generated so much controversy and national attention.

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Posted 27 August 2005 - 02:57 PM

Aug. 27, 2005

From the Associated Press:
N.D. Has No Plans to Alter Sioux Logos

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Hodgson said there are no plans to alter any logos, which can be found on floors, walls, seats and railings. Eliminating them would be too expensive, he said.

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Some Indian leaders on the campus are insulted by the number of Sioux monikers.

"The whole arena is plastered with logos," said Sebastian Braun, assistant professor of Indian studies. "It's kind of an in-your-face approach."

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"Our pride is anchored in the facility itself," Schoen said. "Not in the logo."

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Post icon  Posted 27 August 2005 - 03:02 PM

Braun seems like he is going to be a rather vocal guy no matter what happens. He's been teaching classes for a week at UND and he already knows everything about UND.
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 03:46 PM

Diggler, on Aug 27 2005, 03:02 PM, said:

Braun seems like he is going to be a rather vocal guy no matter what happens.  He's been teaching classes for a week at UND and he already knows everything about UND.
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Ah yes, gotta love it when Eurotrash enter into the fray. Damn "Swiss Indians" ... always so uppity. :) :D
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 04:04 PM

ScottM, on Aug 27 2005, 03:46 PM, said:

Diggler, on Aug 27 2005, 03:02 PM, said:

Braun seems like he is going to be a rather vocal guy no matter what happens.  He's been teaching classes for a week at UND and he already knows everything about UND.
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Ah yes, gotta love it when Eurotrash enter into the fray. Damn "Swiss Indians" ... always so uppity. :) :D
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The guy is a piece of work all right. Read this '9-11-2001: History, and Lakota Reactions' http://www.ssrc.org/...tent/braun.page

I can't believe that what he wrote were reactions from Lakota people are true and accurate. I can't believe some one who writes and believes the kind of crap he wrote is teaching at UND. Oh yeah he's a real ASSet to the UND teaching staff!!
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Post icon  Posted 27 August 2005 - 04:16 PM

What a dink.
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 04:29 PM

Diggler, on Aug 27 2005, 04:16 PM, said:

What a dink.
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I can't stop!!! Here's another little ditty 'Homeland Security: blessing or bane?' on the dink http://www.journalism.indiana.edu/gallery/...eunkim/jpetrus/

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The past five years in this country have amassed a certain level of paranoia for Swiss-born Sebastian Braun. The IU graduate student in Cultural Anthropology has weathered U.S. policies toward internationally born individuals both before and after Homeland Security.

Now, he said he would not tell people to come study in this country with its current policy of Homeland Security. He would tell them to go to Canada or some other English speaking country. He said the environment here is too hostile for international students.


I don't know why he's still living here?! Could it be the freedoms including the freedom of speech he enjoys. The same freedom that he wants to deny UND and it's use of the name Sioux and it's logo? (I'm done, I promise.)
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 04:34 PM

Typical socialist, whiny "Blame America" European bilge masking itself as "intellectual discourse". I see that Herr Braun also teaches the Lakota language. I wonder if that includes yodeling. :D :) On a related note, what possessed the "Indian Studies" dept to hire a European white male who represents centuries of oppression and death to certain elements? ??? I suppose they felt bad for him being "oppressed" by a country he chose to enter and live in.
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Posted 27 August 2005 - 04:44 PM

Wow. UND has its own version of Ward Churchill. :D
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Posted 28 August 2005 - 07:11 AM

PCM, on Aug 27 2005, 05:44 PM, said:

Wow. UND has its own version of Ward Churchill.  :D
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No kidding. That wasn't the best press Colorado has ever received, that is for sure.
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Posted 28 August 2005 - 09:33 AM

From todays Pensacola News Journal

http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/apps/p.../508280335/1002

Look out for Katrina, Star2City.
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