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2017-2018 College Hockey (Non-UND Hockey)

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38 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Replace "BU" with "UND", of course :)

Ultimately, yes, but BU pulled the upset in the semis. 

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On ‎7‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 11:48 AM, Siouxperfan7 said:

It's always going to be tough to recruit the top end guys and at the same time get good players to stay past their Freshman or Sophomore year.  Of course most coaches try to do both and get the guys that will get drafted early and most likely leave early and get the hidden gems, like Caggiula, that will be in the program 4 years.  Denver's situation is pretty unique as their top end draft picks are not leaving early.  Wont't be every year, but man, they are looking stacked this year.  Could you imagine UND having a line this year with Jost, Boesser, and Mismash!!

So do you think last year's team may have been crazy stacked if no one goes pro?

Your D would have been LaDue, Stecher, T Poolman, Thompson, Ausmus, Shaw  with C Poolman, Peski in reserve. Forwards: we get L. Johnson and Schmaltz back and need to replace Cags, Chyzyk, Sanderson., St Clair with Jost, Bowen, Yon, Hoff,  or Smith.

That is what Denver will be like this year except their power will be on Offense. They lose a couple of D including Butcher. UND is just going to need to play better defense and get some scoring from the sophomores and hopefully some freshies too.

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said:

Replace "BU" with "UND", of course :)

Target will be on their back....they will not surprise anyone......can be a tough position.

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Remember UND was 1-1-1 against this "stacked" team last season.  

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11 hours ago, Sodbuster said:

Target will be on their back....they will not surprise anyone......can be a tough position.

Being defending champion in any sport is a grind, no matter how much talent you have.

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1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Being defending champion in any sport is a grind, no matter how much talent you have.

Another thing to consider is that it usually takes several players to have "career years" in order to win a championship.  When those players regress to the mean, the team isn't quite as good.  Now, DU probably returns more talent than anyone else in the country, but they did lose their Hobey Baker winner and several other "cog" type guys who played important roles on the team.  Throw in that everyone seems to give the defending champion their best shot, the grind (both physically and mentally) of trying to repeat, and the likely chance that some players who had great seasons will regress a bit, and there is a reason why defending champions often struggle. 

Looking across all "major sports" (NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA, College Football, College Basketball, and College Hockey), there have been 4 back-to-back champions in the past decade (Pittsburgh Penguins '16-'17; Los Angeles Lakers '09-'10; Miami Heat '12-'13; Alabama Football '11-'12).  Looking just at college hockey, it has only happened twice in the past 45 seasons.  In sum, it's really hard to repeat, and while DU will likely be the favorite going into next season (and deservedly so), in all likelihood they will not repeat. 

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19 minutes ago, Fighting Sioux 23 said:

Looking across all "major sports" (NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA, College Football, College Basketball, and College Hockey), there have been 4 back-to-back champions in the past decade (Pittsburgh Penguins '16-'17; Los Angeles Lakers '09-'10; Miami Heat '12-'13; Alabama Football '11-'12).  Looking just at college hockey, it has only happened twice in the past 45 seasons.  In sum, it's really hard to repeat, and while DU will likely be the favorite going into next season (and deservedly so), in all likelihood they will not repeat. 

The Penguins of 2016 and 2017 were the first repeat champion in the NHL since 1997 and 1998 (Detroit). The Lakers of 2009 and 2010 were the first repeat champions since they three-peated from 2000 to 2002. And the Alabama repeat of 2011 and 2012 was the first repeat since USC three-peated (depending on whom you ask) from 2002-2004. And no one has repeated in the NFL since New England in 2004 and 2005. Repeating is just plain hard to do.

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58 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

The Penguins of 2016 and 2017 were the first repeat champion in the NHL since 1997 and 1998 (Detroit). The Lakers of 2009 and 2010 were the first repeat champions since they three-peated from 2000 to 2002. And the Alabama repeat of 2011 and 2012 was the first repeat since USC three-peated (depending on whom you ask) from 2002-2004. And no one has repeated in the NFL since New England in 2004 and 2005. Repeating is just plain hard to do.

ESPECIALLY in a one-and-done tournament.

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11 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said:

ESPECIALLY in a one-and-done tournament.

Exactly!

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1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

The Penguins of 2016 and 2017 were the first repeat champion in the NHL since 1997 and 1998 (Detroit). The Lakers of 2009 and 2010 were the first repeat champions since they three-peated from 2000 to 2002. And the Alabama repeat of 2011 and 2012 was the first repeat since USC three-peated (depending on whom you ask) from 2002-2004. And no one has repeated in the NFL since New England in 2004 and 2005. Repeating is just plain hard to do.

So in the last 9 years, there has been a repeat champion in the NHL, the NBA, and NCAA football.  Maybe repeating is actually getting EASIER?  :lol:

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22 minutes ago, Benny Baker said:

Denver has repeated 3 times before. 

So what?  Nobody on Denver's current roster has ever repeated as NCAA National Champions before.  Most of the current players were in grade school the last time Denver repeated (and were not born the previous 2 times Denver repeated).  Repeating is significantly more difficult now than it was 50-60 years ago...hence why there have only been 2 back-to-back champions in the last 45 seasons of college hockey.  Past results, particularly in sports, are not indicative of future results. 

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6 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

So in the last 9 years, there has been a repeat champion in the NHL, the NBA, and NCAA football.  Maybe repeating is actually getting EASIER?  :lol:

:p:lol::lol:  To look at it another way though, in the last decade in the major sports (NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA, college football, college basketball, and college hockey), 70 teams have attempted to defend their championship...4 have been successful. 

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25 minutes ago, Fighting Sioux 23 said:

So what?  Nobody on Denver's current roster has ever repeated as NCAA National Champions before.  Most of the current players were in grade school the last time Denver repeated (and were not born the previous 2 times Denver repeated).  Repeating is significantly more difficult now than it was 50-60 years ago...hence why there have only been 2 back-to-back champions in the last 45 seasons of college hockey.  Past results, particularly in sports, are not indicative of future results. 

Sorry, not trying to create any hysteria.  That Denver has repeated as national champions on three separate occasions is an objective, interesting fact that was entirely germane to this thread about whether Denver can repeat as national champions.

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23 minutes ago, Benny Baker said:

Sorry, not trying to create any hysteria.  That Denver has repeated as national champions on three separate occasions is an objective, interesting fact that was entirely germane to this thread about whether Denver can repeat as national champions.

I don't think anyone is getting hysterical about it.  However, the fact that Denver has repeated as national champions before is as indicative of the likelihood of them repeating as national champions this upcoming season as the fact that North Dakota didn't win an eighth national title until they dropped the Brien logo and adopted a new nickname. An interesting and objective fact...sure.  Will it have any impact on whether Denver can repeat as national champions...no. 

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Colorado College hires a new assistant coach, Leon Hayward. 

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Patrick Munson leaves Denver to transfer to another school.

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4 hours ago, cberkas said:

Patrick Munson leaves Denver to transfer to another school.

Finally their first early departure. 

And it's a big one too. Not sure they'll be a serious contender next year now. But we'll see. ;)

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11 hours ago, brianvf said:

Finally their first early departure. 

And it's a big one too. Not sure they'll be a serious contender next year now. But we'll see. ;)

No kidding. Best guy in a ball cap running a gate DU has had in years. 

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10 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Lance West named the new head coach at Alaska.

Motion to make Alaska go back to being UAF or Alaska-Fairbanks.  Is there a second?

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