Cratter Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Our forwards are defenders and our defenders are forwards this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 On 3/3/2018 at 9:25 AM, AJS said: This year has been a tale of two seasons. Before Christmas: Average Offense Good Defense Good Goaltending Average PP Great Penalty Kill After Christmas: Average Offense Good Defense Average Goaltending Average PP Average / Poor PK At the beginning of the year, they were finding ways to win, second half they are finding ways to lose. Obviously you have exceptions in the first / second half, but overall, the difference has been (1) Goaltending (2) Penalty Kill. It's going to be tough watching this team miss the playoffs this year, but the one thing that will be comforting is clearly by the Pairwise, but also just overall, they weren't that far off. Early departures will be big for this team this off-season. I would say below average offense and below avg defense as well. And their pk and pp are atrocious (I guess their pp bumped up a bit last weekend but if you’re looking at post Christmas collectively it’s really bad). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, Cratter said: Our forwards are defenders and our defenders are forwards this year. This.....^^^^^. Your leading points guy will be a defenseman. First time at UND in 25 years. For a team that can't hit an open net, cue the Gersich end of regulation video from Friday, I'm surprised Adams can't find any ice time. Maybe chipping it off the glass and taking offensive zone penalties moves one up the depth chart??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: I would say below average offense and below avg defense as well. And their pk and pp are atrocious (I guess their pp bumped up a bit last weekend but if you’re looking at post Christmas collectively it’s really bad). UND stats: Offense 29th 2.86 GPG Defense 14th 2.44 GAPG PP 32/156 20.5% PK 120/147 81.6% For comparison sake, DU's PP is 34/151 22.5% College Hockey Stats Net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 14 minutes ago, Goon said: UND stats: Offense 29th 2.86 GPG Defense 14th 2.44 GAPG PP 32/156 20.5% PK 120/147 81.6% For comparison sake, DU's PP is 34/151 22.5% College Hockey Stats Net Well their pp feels clunky. Their zone entry has improved greatly over the past three or four years however what they do in the ozone is not pretty nor creative. The other team knows that the puck is going to the point and one of the two defensemen will shoot...every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: Well their pp feels clunky. Their zone entry has improved greatly over the past three or four years however what they do in the ozone is not pretty nor creative. The other team knows that the puck is going to the point and one of the two defensemen will shoot...every time. I was checking the stats yesterday, a grand total of five players played all 36 games this season. That probably played into their problems this season. The top-two lines are finally getting some chemistry. If you think about it, there’s a fine line between the top teams and the bottom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Goon said: I was checking the stats yesterday, a grand total of five players played all 36 games this season. That probably played into their problems this season. The top-two lines are finally getting some chemistry. If you think about it, there’s a fine line between the top teams and the bottom. I think they had chemistry in spurts all season. Someone just usually got injured and they had to switch things. The players on the top 2 lines right now have played the bulk of games with each other. How often did you see Gersich not with Gardner or Poganski? Or to a lesser extent Jones without either Mismash or Kawaguchi? Jones has played with a lot of different wingers, but I’d bet his current linemates are the ones he’s played with the most. Which is why the top 2 lines work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Mhockey said: Maybe I missed the discussion but where is Collin Adams? Is he injured or did something happen off the ice causing him to be benched? When he is out there he needs to get to the slot and shoot more. He let off some sweet wrist shots earlier this season. That seems to be an issue for a lot of the guys this year; taking quick shots. Constantly waiting a second to long and allowing defenders to clog up the shooting lanes. Would rather see more pucks to the net, and looking for some greasy goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 58 minutes ago, Goon said: UND stats: Offense 29th 2.86 GPG Atrocious Power Play confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Cratter said: Atrocious Power Play confirmed. PP 32/156 20.5% For comparison sake, DU's PP is 34/151 22.5% Statiscially, they're not all that bad. It's the PK that's killed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Goon said: PP 32/156 20.5% For comparison sake, DU's PP is 34/151 22.5% Statiscially, they're not all that bad. It's the PK that's killed them. UND is 22nd out of 60 teams at a 20.5. DU is nine spots above that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 UND Penalty Kill 26th out of 60. DU 7th. Pretty brutal in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Cratter said: UND Penalty Kill 26th out of 60. DU 7th. Pretty brutal in my book. Look at the numbers again, you talking about 22.5% versus 20.5% that isn't a lot. Since January 1, 2018, UND has a higher PP percentage than DU. 21.9 vs 16.1... No one was comparing their PK's. UND has taken about 39 more penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Goon said: Look at the numbers again, you talking about 22.5% versus 20.5% that isn't a lot. What do I need to look at again? My numbers are correct. And they are the same as yours. That "small percentage" is the difference having the 22nd best power play (UND) or the 13th best power play (DU). .....which is the exact same thing I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 The power play is a turd sandwich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 In their 2015-16 national championship season, UND had a PP percentage of 19.1%. Maybe the eye test doesn't look good, but statistically they have a better PP this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, Goon said: Look at the numbers again, you talking about 22.5% versus 20.5% that isn't a lot. Since January 1, 2018, UND has a higher PP percentage than DU. 21.9 vs 16.1... No one was comparing their PK's. UND has taken about 39 more penalties. There’s nothing you could say to convince the majority here that the power play doesn’t suck. It’s been a point of contention for a while. In my mind, if PP is above 20%, it’s sufficient enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, siouxforce19 said: There’s nothing you could say to convince the majority here that the power play doesn’t suck. It’s been a point of contention for a while. In my mind, if PP is above 20%, it’s sufficient enough for me. I actually thought the PP looked improved and pretty decent this past weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franchise Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 The PP looks a little better, but definitely lacks the quick sharp passes that other teams have. When they actually get it between the dots for a quick shot, it looks functional. The back and forth at the top before hitting a shin pad or losing the zone is the killer. The PK...well, I just expect a goal everytime and then I'm pleasantly surprised when they kill it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 30 minutes ago, cberkas said: The power play is a turd sandwich. When has our PP been anything other than a "turd sandwich"? This has been a general gripe on this forum for years (title team or not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: In their 2015-16 national championship season, UND had a PP percentage of 19.1%. Maybe the eye test doesn't look good, but statistically they have a better PP this year. As Goon said it's the PK that is killing them this year. That year at this time they had the 6th best PK in the country vs 26th best PK right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Cratter said: As Goon said it's the PK that is killing them this year. That year at this time they had the 6th best PK in the country vs 26th best PK right now. Exactly........................this team parades to the box to boot. The amount of offensive zone penalties this team takes as well is ridiculous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsh Hall Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 UND has allowed the 5th fewest shots on goal this year. Pretty impressive given their schedule. Cumulative save percentage not so much... I think the D has played very well considering they've needed to shoulder a decent chunk of the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Cratter said: Atrocious Power Play confirmed. 5 minutes ago, Cratter said: As Goon said it's the PK that is killing them this year. That year at this time they had the 6th best PK in the country vs 26th best PK right now. I got the impression that you believed the powerplay was the problem. Their penalty kill looked so good for the first couple months, then completely fell apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 PK clipping along at 77.8% since the break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.